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onion 23rd Jan 2020 17:10

The argument for the Aberdeen is that the passengers are there, but it's not sustainable with two operators. But if eastern were to use a larger aircraft themselves it maybe.
The question for Eastern would be high profit margin low revenue (j41) or low profit margin higher revenue (s2000/atr/embraer). That's Easterns commercial decision.
Obviously the airport wants the latter. Eastern may not.
could all change re the Cardiff rumour!

N707ZS 23rd Jan 2020 17:11

Eastern run a number of routes from Humberside to Teesside then Aberdeen but have never actually sold the route between Humberside and Teesside so it might be the same with Cardiff.

PintofDoom 23rd Jan 2020 17:37

This is all down to poor performance on the ncl-cwl and a sheer lack of available aircraft. Wasting money sending the saab or 145 from huy via mme to abz while an aircraft gets wasted at ncl. The 41s have had their day with more getting wfu than in service and very few available to supply the parts required, added to the number of engineers they laid off and couldn't recover.

mmeman 23rd Jan 2020 17:39

Eastern
 
Flybe website confirms that the mid morning Aberdeen flights have all changed to lunchtime, which seems to confirm the CWL-MME-ABZ and return, as same times as Newcastle is now? But unable to book MME-CWL as yet.

Eastern NCl- ABZ down to 1 flight a day in the afternoon.

onion 23rd Jan 2020 22:49

Press conference tomorrow or Monday..... possibly!

mmeteesside 24th Jan 2020 05:22

Story out this morning of new routes to Dublin and Belfast plus four more to be announced at 0900. Cardiff presumably among them.

SWBKCB 24th Jan 2020 06:08

Bit of an odd announcement, new routes and airline partner without mentioning what and who, but brilliant news for the airport and good work.

Nice timing as well, same week as the Mayor's major election rival launched her campaign.... :ok:


'Major milestone' for Teesside Airport as daily Dublin and Belfast flights announced

onion 24th Jan 2020 06:34

Teesside-Cardiff on sale now.

mmeman 24th Jan 2020 06:35

Cardiff now bookable at flybe.. and at £443 return,I can imagine it will be a very successful route,....

Eastern Saab turning up at 8.45 - is that related to the announcement? (credit Teesside Movements)

onion 24th Jan 2020 07:01


Originally Posted by mmeman (Post 10670054)
Cardiff now bookable at flybe.. and at £443 return,I can imagine it will be a very successful route,....

Eastern Saab turning up at 8.45 - is that related to the announcement? (credit Teesside Movements)

That's the all in price, expect the cheaper tickets to start appearing.
The Saab appears to be positioning in to operate the Aberdeen.

GrahamK 24th Jan 2020 07:07

Better tell FlyBe the name of the airport has changed :8

N707ZS 24th Jan 2020 07:35

Will be interesting to see if Loganair use there own aircraft or contract in NYXAir.

P330 24th Jan 2020 07:53

So, Belfast, Dublin, Cardiff, Isle of Man, Southampton and London City. All operated by Eastern Airways.

According to DTV Movements.

fjencl 24th Jan 2020 08:37


Originally Posted by P330 (Post 10670120)
So, Belfast, Dublin, Cardiff, Isle of Man, Southampton and London City. All operated by Eastern Airways.

According to DTV Movements.

Will be interesting to see what aircraft type will be operating on the routes, surely it won't be the j41 aircraft .

SWBKCB 24th Jan 2020 08:37

Looking at the Gazettes updates, all the references are to Eastern operating the flights - no mention of Flybe?

SWBKCB 24th Jan 2020 08:46

More detail from the Gazette:


The new routes will roll out from next month and, after almost a decade, will see the return of flights to Dublin in time for St Patrick’s Day, starting at £69.99. There will also be daily direct connections to Belfast City Airport, Cardiff and Southampton. From May 30 this year, passengers will also be able to fly to the Isle of Man on a seasonal service.

This announcement, which includes 37 new flights per week, will add 185,000 seats each year, more than doubling the number of available seats. To help ensure reliability, an engineering base will be created at the airport to serve the aircraft operating the new Eastern Airways routes. Tickets will be available to buy in the coming days.

SWBKCB 24th Jan 2020 08:55


Aberdeen Existing Service – revised 10 February

Cardiff – Monday 10 February

Belfast – Monday 9 March

Dublin – Monday 9 March

Southampton – Monday 9 March

London City – Monday 27 April

Isle of Man – Saturday 30 May
Presumably Belfast, Dublin, Southhampton will be done by a single based unit, similar to how CAX works. CWL, ABZ on the current J.41 as per existing NCL?

mmeteesside 24th Jan 2020 09:22


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 10670173)
Presumably Belfast, Dublin, Southhampton will be done by a single based unit, similar to how CAX works. CWL, ABZ on the current J.41 as per existing NCL?

Sounds like it, three based aircraft in the announcement but that will include the current J41 for Aberdeen, the mid day Aberdeen now being operated by Cardiff - which rotates their aircraft through Aberdeen to swap it. Two Saab’s based here for the rest?

SWBKCB 24th Jan 2020 10:29


Originally Posted by GrahamK (Post 10670075)
Better tell FlyBe the name of the airport has changed :8

Looking at the other threads that mention the new routes, it seems to have been changed to Teeside... :=

Robert-Ryan 24th Jan 2020 10:30


Originally Posted by PintofDoom
the need for MME is null. It sees more caravans than passengers and probably earns more revenue.

MME has no viable future as a commercial airport, its a waste of tax payers money.


Originally Posted by flybar
TIA supporters need to realise that its catchment area does not support the need for an 'international airport'


Originally Posted by Me
Flybar and Pint of Doom are in for a shock

I hate to say I told you so...actually no I don't...I love to!


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