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10 DME ARC 14th Nov 2019 06:59

Plus SEN-NCL is a Flybe/Virgin Connect route operated by Stobart. I am with HWAU the Cobham contract is a linch pin of the airport!

Robert-Ryan 14th Nov 2019 20:52

The movements website has September's passenger figures, looks like a very good month, as per their comments: Amsterdam returned to form with a 10% increase, 15% increase in terminal pax, Jersey finished better than last year and even Aberdeen was ok although still down by 4%.

Gunfighter52 14th Nov 2019 22:11

On for the first back to back increase in annual passenger figures since 2005/6. Granted it's not a huge achievement, but its progress nonetheless.

tigertanaka 15th Nov 2019 08:22

September CAA stats:

Terminal passengers: 14,372 - up 15% v prior year
  • Aberdeen: 1,532 - down 4%
  • Amsterdam: 11,291 - up 10%
  • Jersey: 388 - down 22%
  • Burgas: 829 (new)
  • Bergamo: 332 (charter)
After the service reduction in August, Amsterdam bounces back with a healthy growth number and 11,291 passengers is the best month on MME-AMS since October 2005! Aberdeen was down again but not as much as we have seen in recent months and the numbers were actually more than in September 2017. Jersey down due to the calendar movement (3 flights in September this year compared to 4 last year) but for the summer overall JER was up 5%. Assuming the last flight to Burgas went back empty, 829 passengers is 166 per flight (around a 93% load factor). 332 passengers to Bergamo is 161 each way on a 170 seat plane so pretty good too!

Rolling 12 month passengers: 147,297

Gunfighter52 22nd Nov 2019 22:26

Both the morning and evening Amsterdam rotations were operated by an ERJ-190 today.

N707ZS 22nd Nov 2019 22:53

Weekend breaks in Amsterdam have always been popular, presume the ERJ-190 was through demand and not just lack of a smaller plane. See if they return Sunday or Monday.

SWBKCB 26th Nov 2019 09:45

KLM Teesside to Amsterdam route passenger numbers increase


A shy bairn said:


It has not even been 12 months since I bought our airport but we are already making significant progress with our 10-year rescue plan. Today’s announcement that we have some of the best passenger numbers the airport has seen in almost 15 years is proof that the plan is working.

No-More-Bullschit 26th Nov 2019 15:04

The improvement in the routes performance began under Peel and there's nothing to suggest it has anything to do with the Mayor's takeover.

highwideandugly 26th Nov 2019 15:43

great figures..11k plus......on KLM....not sure of capacity/seats offered but a quick approximation...gives around 78 per flight both ways...100% capacity...so over to you KLM...extra flight?

mmeteesside 28th Nov 2019 17:45


Originally Posted by highwideandugly (Post 10627063)
great figures..11k plus......on KLM....not sure of capacity/seats offered but a quick approximation...gives around 78 per flight both ways...100% capacity...so over to you KLM...extra flight?

Works out at 73.3 per flight average, 88 seats gives 83.2% average load over the month (154 flights in total)

P330 28th Nov 2019 19:52

I would suggest more E190s before an extra rotation unfortunately.

tigertanaka 29th Nov 2019 08:44


Originally Posted by P330 (Post 10628568)
I would suggest more E190s before an extra rotation unfortunately.

Yes, I think this is right looking at what KLM do from other similar sized UK airports.
  • In the last 12 months, MME-AMS has had around 118,000 pax on the route - 18 departures a week (typically 3x E175s each weekday plus 3 over the weekend). This is the same for the Winter and Summer timetables.
  • Humberside (127,000 pax in 2018) runs 19 departures a week during winter (all E175s) and 19 departures a week during summer (all E175s)
  • Cardiff (146,000 pax in 2018) also runs 19 flights a week during winter (normally 2x E175s a day and 1 x E190) and 20 departures a week during the summer (normally 2x E175s a day and 1 x E190)
  • Norwich (147,000 pax in 2018) runs 20 flights a week during winter (all E175s) and 25 flights a week during the summer (all E175s)

P330 29th Nov 2019 09:47

Interesting stats...so based on that there are other bases ahead of us to upgauge or increase frequency.

Of course, we have no yield stats....

PDXCWL45 29th Nov 2019 11:38


Originally Posted by P330 (Post 10628929)
Interesting stats...so based on that there are other bases ahead of us to upgauge or increase frequency.

Of course, we have no yield stats....

I'd say that the loads would have to be consistently in the high 90s for them to consider it. Cardiff was like that for a while and now is getting more E190 flights. During the winter 6 of the 20 weekly departures will be E190s and in the summer 8 of the 20 weekly will be E190s except in July and August when it will be 1.

virginblue 29th Nov 2019 11:57

Keep in mind that there are no more slots available at AMS. So adding a frequency would require axing one to another destination. So unless MME is a goldmine, it will be E90s instead of additional E75 flights.

airhumberside 29th Nov 2019 13:02


Originally Posted by P330 (Post 10628929)
Interesting stats...so based on that there are other bases ahead of us to upgauge or increase frequency.


As per the KLM timetable, one flight per day to HUY is upgauged to an E190 in April, May, June, September and October next year. (Also the frequency on HUY-AMS varies between 19 and 20xWeek throughout the year, with the 3rd Sunday frequency being the one that 'comes and go's'. HUY-AMS is currently 20xWeek, goes down to 19xWeek in January, back to 20xWeek sometime in February, then back down to 19xWeek when the E190 starts, then back up again to 20xWeek in July when the route goes back to all E175 for 2 months)

Cautious Optimist 5th Dec 2019 00:39

https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/whats-...after-17363790

Look what just hit the news!

SWBKCB 7th Dec 2019 08:48


And Mr Houchen sought to allay any worries.The mayor said: “Eddie Stobart who appear to be in financial difficulty, are a completely separate and different company to Stobart Group who are our partners at Teesside Airport. “Stobart Group are doing very well as is our amazing airport, especially with the recent name change and the announcement of the return of the airshow next May.“We’re working closely with Stobart Group on implementing our 10 year turnaround plan for the airport and getting new flights to new destinations. The future of our airport is strong and it is in safe hands.”
Comments on the Southend thread suggest that it might not be that straightforward as the Stobart Group have considerable funds tied up in Eddie Stobart

Teesside Airport update amid concerns over Eddie Stobart financial woes

Beafer 9th Dec 2019 18:04

Airport hotel lease.
 
The agent has put a new advert on Rightmove to sell the hotel lease. Breakdown of the hotel earnings is shown.

Who actually owns the building? airport or a separate land owner like Peel?
https://www.rightmove.co.uk/commerci...-87335354.html

Robert-Ryan 9th Dec 2019 18:17

It's always been external from the airport so not Peel, the airport have never recognised it as an airport hotel


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