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Originally Posted by EI-BUD
(Post 10325579)
Try low bookings ...
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Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1
(Post 10325665)
I’m sure BA must have their reasons but if low bookings were the issue you’d expect it to be the morning flight gone and not both the later ones when people are looking to get home after the weekend. |
Islamabad relaunched S19 3/wk 788 |
Originally Posted by CabinCrewe
(Post 10338254)
Islamabad relaunched S19 3/wk 788 Is this the smallest aircraft BA have used there post 707 and Vc10, did they ever fly 767s there? |
Originally Posted by newscaster
(Post 10338476)
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/b...mabad-pakistan
Is this the smallest aircraft BA have used there post 707 and Vc10, did they ever fly 767s there? |
Think there were 767's to Karachi? |
BA didn't ever fly to Karachi during the 767's near three decades in the fleet - that was a service that stopped in the early 1980s if my memory serves me right, and Karachi used to be a TriStar over Dubai.
Post the VC10 era into Rawalpindi, BA had the 747s on LGW-ISB and then LGW-MAN-ISB BA2119 routing for a few years. It then went to LHR on 747 and latterly 777 before being dropped ten years ago. Unless I'm much mistaken, there was a flight ops technical reason why BA 767-300s couldn't do Islamabad - something about the RR-powered aircraft dry operating weights being heavier and a consequent problem with drift-down altitudes for those specific aircraft being below the MSA over one of the mountain ranges sticks in my mind as the reason why. One of the BA folk did explain it to me once upon a time during a discussion about BA 767s based at Manchester and why they never went east. It was certainly a convoluted problem but one which didn't affect routings going further south for the likes of HYD and BLR which - although even further - did receive BA 767 service over the years. Happy to stand corrected if anyone can be more definitive! |
767s operated Karachi via DXB in 1990 |
Originally Posted by CabinCrewe
(Post 10338629)
767s operated Karachi via DXB in 1990 |
767 must have succeeded L1011s in around 1990 then. Was a frequent visitor to Karachi 1989-1994 and can remember seeing a TriStar 500 there at least once.
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I confirmed from a post at another forum BA did operate all variants of the Tristar to ISB at some point or as subs as mentioned above.
Originally Posted by 22/04
(Post 10338725)
767 must have succeeded L1011s in around 1990 then. Was a frequent visitor to Karachi 1989-1994 and can remember seeing a TriStar 500 there at least once.
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Originally Posted by CabinCrewe
(Post 10338254)
Islamabad relaunched S19 3/wk 788 |
Originally Posted by EI-BUD
(Post 10339069)
I recall this route operating London Gatwick - Manchester - Islamabad twice weekly circa 1987-1989 ..
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At the risk of making the most pedantic post of the year, I checked back in the BA timetables for 1989-1992 earlier today. Karachi was served by a TriStar routing over Kuwait (BA147/149) and stopped in Winter 1990/91 as evidently Kuwait services had stopped (not out of choice) at the same time. There was no mention of any BA 767 operation to Karachi anywhere.
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From a respected BA Crew member elsewhere. Remember paper timetables were printed often 6-12 months out of date... https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7a316f911.jpeg |
Guys, I hope BA have added an extra hour onto the turnaround time for cleaning the cabin. The mess made by SLF going to/from Pakistan is shameful. |
G-BYGC to be re-painted in BOAC livery in Feb. |
G-BYGC to be re-painted in BOAC livery in Feb. |
I can understand why an airline might occasionally paint an aircraft in retro livery under the same name, but using the name of a predecessor company seems odd. The big corporate name and logo functions partly as an advertisement - and the old logo suggests how long established and mature a company is. Using the name of an old company loses that benefit and potentially causes confusion to people outside the airline industry
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Agreed about time too. It will raise a few hairs on the back of the neck to those who remember the best airline to work for back in those days.
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
(Post 10366421)
I can understand why an airline might occasionally paint an aircraft in retro livery under the same name, but using the name of a predecessor company seems odd. The big corporate name and logo functions partly as an advertisement - and the old logo suggests how long established and mature a company is. Using the name of an old company loses that benefit and potentially causes confusion to people outside the airline industry
Not sure they will even use BEA anyway but I guess we are odds on for the return of the 1980s Landor livery. |
Originally Posted by tigertanaka
(Post 10366442)
Not sure they will even use BEA anyway
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US Airways adopted much later on "Heritage" liveries from airlines they had previously absorbed on examples of their A319`s...
The original America West livery... The final America West livery... The Piedmont livery... & the Pacific Southwest Airlines (PSA) livery... |
Landor? Boring. I want to see the International Tails back, they were fantastic. (Yes, I've heard all the arguments)
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Originally Posted by PAXboy
(Post 10366728)
Landor? Boring. I want to see the International Tails back, they were fantastic. (Yes, I've heard all the arguments)
TBH I think that there is more chance of seeing a A380 In GO livery than with one of those tails. |
BA have given a date of 18th Feb for arrival at Heathrow from the paint shop in Dublin.
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I am all too aware of the controversy over the international tails and the boss at the time. I know we shall not see their like again and I understand the reasons why. But, for me, they were joyous and highly innovative. That said, the classic BOAC scheme for the 744 is one I heartily approve of - mainly as my first flight ever (Dec 1965) was in a VC10 in this livery!
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I think you will find that the current BA Chatham Dockyard tails were in fact part of the World tails. |
It was indeed the dedicated Concorde theme.
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The BOAC original 747 1970 livery was chosen I gather to coincide with the first 747's and almost 40 years of BOAC/BA 747 operations and 45 years of BEA/BA merger (1974)
An A321 NEO is also rumoured to be coming in BEA speed jack livery which will be rather nice if it emerges |
Originally Posted by rog747
(Post 10368245)
The BOAC original 747 1970 livery was chosen I gather to coincide with the first 747's and almost 40 years of BOAC/BA 747 operations and 45 years of BEA/BA merger (1974)
An A321 NEO is also rumoured to be coming in BEA speed jack livery which will be rather nice if it emerges If BA do a BEA livery (which I hope for) I suspect it will be an A319. |
A usually very reliable source on another forum suggests the aircraft to be treated will be 747s G-BYGC, G-BNLY, G-CIVB and A319 G-EUPJ.
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Originally Posted by rog747
(Post 10368245)
The BOAC original 747 1970 livery was chosen I gather to coincide with the first 747's and almost 40 years of BOAC/BA 747 operations and 45 years of BEA/BA merger (1974)
Though it was almost a year after the first aircraft was delivered before 747s started carrying fare-paying passengers. |
Originally Posted by vctenderness
(Post 10367422)
I think you will find that the current BA Chatham Dockyard tails were in fact part of the World tails. Yep.....I vividly remember attending a “top secret/need to know/eyes only” presentation prior to the introduction of those tails..held in a top secret bunker disguised as a large windowless caravan parked outside Compass Centre (the former BA Crew report centre on the Bath Road) ....On the day I was there group of us (flight crew and cabin crew) sat down, listened to some advertising person, looked at some art work and mock ups and then told said luvvie we thought a lot of the art work was “meh” at best, but that the Chatham Dockyard Tails were quite nice actually and could that opinion get fed back to the Board...:ok: we were then somewhat taken a back when the artistic person told us, errr, no, we weren’t looking at a shortlist, that he wasn’t asking for opinions, that the decision had already been made and that the decision had been we were getting the lot...:eek:..but thanks for coming... Anyhow Chatham looked good, right from day one, on everything from Concorde through the 744 and on to the shorthaul fleet. Of course eventually, and with no fanfare and on the quiet the whole fleet got that scheme...So popular opinion won in the end and it is about the only instance I can think of where Margaret Thatcher and I shared the same opinion. |
I doubt they will do it but I'd love to see a BCal livery on something.
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There are two PA28s flying round in British Caledonian livery at the moment. That said I am not sure if BA retain copyright on the proud lion as it went off with BCAL Charter to form Calair and Novair eventually morphing into Thomas Cook UK today. |
BCal had to have special permission from the Court of the Lord Lyon to use the Lion Rampant as part of its colour scheme. I suspect this one may go into the “all too difficult” box when you also consider whether the Dan-Air crowd would then demand a retro livery too! BOAC, BEA, Negus and Landor must surely be the four? (Cambrian and Northeast would be fun though...) |
Caledonian was merged with Flying Colours to form JMCAir, which later become Thomas Cook Airlines.
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Originally Posted by Rutan16
(Post 10372727)
There are two PA28s flying round in British Caledonian livery at the moment.
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