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STN406 19th Oct 2018 11:01


Originally Posted by daz211 (Post 10286974)
So with all the suspensions and cancellations, how many rotations have gone for all airports and where are the aircraft going. I’m sure at peak times Stansted had 3 aircraft operating.

Yes we had 3 weekend based in the peak summer and also had the flight operating in and out of Milan too. The passengers figures for these flight was very good all summer in the 80-90’s for most flights. There is a drop of now as the season is coming to a close but still figures in the 50-70’s region.
I can understand if it is affecting the LCY operation to scale back to consolidate. But seems a massive decreases for STN. Surely with BRS and BHX already having had service cut for next year that would have been able to improve the LCY operation of there has be issues with the weekend bases.
I myself was expecting a small increase at STN for next summer on current routes and maybe a few others routes added maybe JMK, JTR, JSI.

inOban 19th Oct 2018 12:27

It must have been awkward and expensive to locate crew at MAN/BHX etc for the weekend. It seems that the weekend Cityflyer services from EDI,and I assume GLA , will operate next year, but these have a locally based pool of crew.

compton3bravo 20th Oct 2018 09:02

On behalf of everybody on here may I thank LBIA for taking the time and effort to correlate all that information.

Lon12 23rd Oct 2018 11:52

Rumour

BA will move BIO-LHR route to LGW

any information about that?

Skipness One Foxtrot 23rd Oct 2018 15:00


Originally Posted by daz211 (Post 10286974)
So with all the suspensions and cancellations, how many rotations have gone for all airports and where are the aircraft going. I’m sure at peak times Stansted had 3 aircraft operating

Parked I suspect, just like every summer since 2009 when they were formed. I myself suffered a four delay on a GLA-LCY route as the crew was not rested from their weekend sun flights. Once the core LCY starts taking a hit, this was always going to be scaled back IMHO.

Keanaga 23rd Oct 2018 16:26

Parked at STN
 
No flying many rotations.

Skipness One Foxtrot 23rd Oct 2018 16:51


No flying many rotations.
I mean that for summer 2019 the LCY based fleet will not be flying out of BHX/BRS and will likely be parked at the weekend to mitigate the impact on core LCY Sunday schedules which took a hit this year.

RexBanner 24th Oct 2018 14:06


Originally Posted by Lon12 (Post 10290249)
Rumour

BA will move BIO-LHR route to LGW

any information about that?

Confirmed rumour.

Lon12 24th Oct 2018 14:25

And New route to Valencia from Heathrow (9 weekly)

canberra97 24th Oct 2018 15:12


Originally Posted by Lon12 (Post 10291304)
And New route to Valencia from Heathrow (9 weekly)

Is this in place of Gatwick to Valencia or in addition to?

Lon12 24th Oct 2018 15:15

In place of...

pamann 24th Oct 2018 15:54

CityFlyer Stansted
 
What’s the source of info in relation to the supposed cancelled routes with CityFlyer?

I’ve just looked at STN-AGP/PMI/FAO/FLR for instance and they’re all still taking bookings for Summer 2019.

toledoashley 24th Oct 2018 17:37


Originally Posted by Lon12 (Post 10291304)
And New route to Valencia from Heathrow (9 weekly)

Bilbao, Almeria and Minorca are moving to Gatwick
Valencia, Barcelona and Pisa are moving to Heathrow.

OltonPete 24th Oct 2018 18:27


Originally Posted by pamann (Post 10291378)
What’s the source of info in relation to the supposed cancelled routes with CityFlyer?

I’ve just looked at STN-AGP/PMI/FAO/FLR for instance and they’re all still taking bookings for Summer 2019.

BA themselves and the link is below if it opens

BA

Malaga and Faro not mentioned but you are right they are all still bookable from STN although nothing surprising in that these days as most airlines seem slow to remove flights from sale at times.

Pete

BAladdy 24th Oct 2018 23:13


Originally Posted by pamann (Post 10291378)
What’s the source of info in relation to the supposed cancelled routes with CityFlyer?

I’ve just looked at STN-AGP/PMI/FAO/FLR for instance and they’re all still taking bookings for Summer 2019.

​​​BA have not dropped any of the routes that they operate from STN. They are however reducing the frequency of there flights to FLR and IBZ In S19

FLR - Frequency reducing from 2 x Weekly (Sat & Sun) to Weekly (Sat) for S19

IBZ - Frequency reduced to Weekly for S19. BACF operated 3 x weekly an IBZ-STN and 2 x weekly STN-IBZ during S18.

BACF’s flight to AGP, FAO, NCE, PMI and TXL from STN are planned to continue operating Weekly for S19, as they gave this year

Originally Posted by OltonPete (Post 10291504)
BA themselves and the link is below if it opens

BA

Malaga and Faro not mentioned but you are right they are all still bookable from STN although nothing surprising in that these days as most airlines seem slow to remove flights from sale at times.

Pete

BA removed the STN flights that they have cancelled for S19 a few days ago. The traveltrade post states that they have made a number of flight cancellations to flight from STN for S19. Unfortunately the info displayed is not accurate as it doesn’t say the day of operation that they are cancelled on. The only reason i know this is because I was booked to travel next June on one of the cancelled flights from IBZ to STN flights and I have been rebooked on the flight currently available to book online.

The agent that rebooked me said that if BA had decided to drop any of the STN routes then they would be listed under the Route Suspension.

Asturias56 25th Oct 2018 13:04

Was on a BA 777 last weèk in business

Really well used look to the cabin which was looking shabby... v poor compared to the opposition i thought... and the layout ,......

Porky Speedpig 25th Oct 2018 17:03


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 10292180)
Was on a BA 777 last weèk in business

Really well used look to the cabin which was looking shabby... v poor compared to the opposition i thought... and the layout ,......

Whilst not disagreeing, not everything is rosy with the opposition. I was on an Etihad 777 last week in business. My seat was inoperative, the IFE had to be rebooted 3 times and the forward J class lavatory was unusable for 90 per cent of the flight. The food seemed better than QR (not as good as BA/CX), the cabin service behind QR. The 380 cabin though was very smart and I liked the layout.

crewmeal 4th Nov 2018 17:54

Good old BA, imagine being seperated from loved ones on a flight to Oz, you'd forget what they'd look like!!!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-together.html

PAXboy 5th Nov 2018 11:03

Good Old DM, being outraged at a situation that has existed for some time on many airlines. I have a strong suspicion that the DM has supported the lowering of prices and the transparency of unit pricing. Thus (as I have said before):-
  • Public want more for less ££
  • Public want to choose what they pay for
  • Airlines (and many other companies) provide this
  • Public complains at having to pay more than they thought.
  • Read the rules and what other people have experienced and you won't be surprised.

southside bobby 23rd Nov 2018 17:02

First A321NEO delivered to LHR.

Same seat 235 density as EZY.

The96er 23rd Nov 2018 17:16


Originally Posted by southside bobby (Post 10318581)
First A321NEO delivered to LHR.

Same seat 235 density as EZY.

No - BA's are 220

southside bobby 23rd Nov 2018 17:55

BA A321NEO equipped with 235 seat config higher than the CEO`s & same as EZY...3+3.

Middle seat not occupied in Club Europe onboard NEO.

Skipness One Foxtrot 23rd Nov 2018 18:29

The 757s were delivered with 180 seats, 195 on the Shuttle ones.
Blimey.

The96er 23rd Nov 2018 18:43


Originally Posted by southside bobby (Post 10318615)
BA A321NEO equipped with 235 seat config higher than the CEO`s & same as EZY...3+3.

Middle seat not occupied in Club Europe onboard NEO.

Incorrect - BA A321NEO's have 37 rows (Row 26 being the emergency exit rows which has 4 abreast seating). Do the math (36x6)+4 =220.

mariofly12 23rd Nov 2018 20:20

Actually southside bobby is right..It's 235 as posted today on twitter and on Airways magazine online

VickersVicount 23rd Nov 2018 20:26


rog747 24th Nov 2018 04:37

The new BA 321Neo's do not have the exits for 235/240 pax like EZY do with 240 pax.

EZY's have the 4 larger overwing exits - BA have 2 which means 220 max pax (but the other 2 exits maybe fitted but deactivated as can be offered by AB)

As you may know the new 321neo is offered with a number of exit configurations with varying doors and/or overwing exit windows

DaveReidUK 24th Nov 2018 07:03


Originally Posted by rog747 (Post 10318934)
EZY's have the 4 larger overwing exits - BA have 2 which means 220 max pax

Similar to the difference between the overwing exits on EZY's A319s and BA's.


(but the other 2 exits maybe fitted but deactivated as can be offered by AB)
Unless it's my imagination, you can (just) discern the outline of the deactivated exit on the BA aircraft:

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....efdb4eb274.jpg

https://www.airliners.net/photo/Brit...-251NX/5208361

rog747 24th Nov 2018 07:08

Yes Dave, thanks - The 2nd exit window does look like it there but deactivated, handy for resale or re-configuring seats - These new windows are larger than the 319/320 ones - and the main doors have double lane slides to enable the max of 240 seats if ALL exits ARE active.

Indeed,
EZY & some charter airlines chose to have 4 exit windows on their 319's to enable 156 seats (144 or 150 with only 2)

wowzz 25th Nov 2018 21:45

Anyone know what is the fate of the last 767 flying today. Scrap, cargo work in Africa?

Skipness One Foxtrot 25th Nov 2018 22:38

Both bound for St Athan tomorrow, to be scrapped.

brian_dromey 25th Nov 2018 22:40


Originally Posted by wowzz (Post 10320328)
Anyone know what is the fate of the last 767 flying today. Scrap, cargo work in Africa?

Scrap, according to other sources online. BA were one of two airlines, the other being China Yunnan, to order 767s with RR engines. Qantas leased some RR powered 767s from BA, but have retired these too. Their odd-ball engines and "ACE" galleys make them fairly unattractive.

cornishsimon 25th Nov 2018 22:50

They are all off to an raf base in wales to be scrapped. As far as I’m aware there are no plans for any of them to be stored or kept flying.


cs

Diverskii 26th Nov 2018 08:54

BA tried to sell them to the RAF years ago but they went with new A330s instead. The engines will be ferried back down the M4 for use on the 747s.

BCALBOY 1st Dec 2018 10:36

Any one , any idea why BA have cancelled both afternoon and evening departures from Belfast to Heathrow on Sunday 09th December?

means latest dep from Belfast that day is 0915am , making a weekend visit from LHR impossible.

Cheapest one way on Aer Lingus evening departure is £420.

ericlday 1st Dec 2018 10:45

Other London Airports are available at a fraction of the cost.......oh, and a choice of departure times !!!

rog747 1st Dec 2018 13:40

are they cancelled or just sold out and removed from the booking engine?

If EI is £420 then maybe that's why

BCALBOY 1st Dec 2018 14:07

They are cancelled both directions..

Maybe is an attempt to prevent DUP gatecrashing the TV Brexit debate , LOL,

EI-BUD 1st Dec 2018 18:07


Originally Posted by BCALBOY (Post 10325208)
Any one , any idea why BA have cancelled both afternoon and evening departures from Belfast to Heathrow on Sunday 09th December?

means latest dep from Belfast that day is 0915am , making a weekend visit from LHR impossible.

Try low bookings ...

BCALBOY 1st Dec 2018 19:43

Well ,both flights are almost full in both directions tomorrow ,so dot understand why 02nd and 9th would be drastically different.Could maybe ubnderstand consolidating 2 into 1 ,but to cancel both seems overkill and is poor customer service .


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