Originally Posted by TartinTon
(Post 10769268)
Quite honestly, if airlines are relying on social distancing as a way to restart then the whole lot are screwed as there will be no money to be made. The ONLY way out of this for the airlines is an effective vaccine. Until that happens everything is on hold.
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Be interesting if similar criteria is imposed on BA - should they receive a gov dot uk bale out - as been imposed on Air France w.r.t. short domestic flights:
https://www.railjournal.com/passenge...ail-in-france/ That would surely kill LHR to both MAN and LBA, and even NCL GLA and EDI if the French 1 h 15 min flight became a UK 1 h 30 m. And UK+FR for example and/or other lands acting together could kill off LHR CDG / BRU, and so on. in favour of channel tunnel - in terms of flight time, if 1 h 30 m were set. -- Nick |
Originally Posted by D7666
(Post 10770395)
Be interesting if similar criteria is imposed on BA - should they receive a gov dot uk bale out - as been imposed on Air France w.r.t. short domestic flights:
https://www.railjournal.com/passenge...ail-in-france/ That would surely kill LHR to both MAN and LBA, and even NCL GLA and EDI if the French 1 h 15 min flight became a UK 1 h 30 m. And UK+FR for example and/or other lands acting together could kill off LHR CDG / BRU, and so on. in favour of channel tunnel - in terms of flight time, if 1 h 30 m were set. -- Nick Also, I seem to recall that France has ducked, dived and evaded the EU's railway liberalisation rules. With these in mind, I think that Air France were themselves proposing to run trains between Paris, Paris CDG, Lyon and the south, but AFAIK this came to nothing. |
LHR isn't exactly connected to the rest of the country by high speed rail, so apples and oranges.
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AND when has France and Germany obeyed EU rules when it suits them! They disregard EU rules as and when is convenient to either or both of them.
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OBB, Arriva and NS operate trains in Germany . And the liberation is a British idea you know ruin every other integrated network ! |
And there's an independent operator in Italy also.
The EU may be slow to enforce its rules, but they do enforce them. The idea that only the UK obeys them is one of the founding myths of Brexit. |
Originally Posted by inOban
(Post 10771137)
And there's an independent operator in Italy also.
The EU may be slow to enforce its rules, but they do enforce them. The idea that only the UK obeys them is one of the founding myths of Brexit. |
They haven’t enforced it in Italy up until now - they have been in special administration for 3 years.
I’m not saying it’s necessarily a bad thing that the Italian government have propped up Alitalia over all of these years, protecting livelihoods, but you can understand when the likes of RYR complain about this sort of thing; when there’s a perception of one rule for one... |
Those BA staff remaining to go onto zero hours contracts.
Those being made redundant get Govt minima only. Ruthless and opportunist. I see trouble ahead. |
Originally Posted by D7666
(Post 10770395)
Be interesting if similar criteria is imposed on BA - should they receive a gov dot uk bale out - as been imposed on Air France w.r.t. short domestic flights:
https://www.railjournal.com/passenge...ail-in-france/ That would surely kill LHR to both MAN and LBA, and even NCL GLA and EDI if the French 1 h 15 min flight became a UK 1 h 30 m. And UK+FR for example and/or other lands acting together could kill off LHR CDG / BRU, and so on. in favour of channel tunnel - in terms of flight time, if 1 h 30 m were set. -- Nick The fastest Edinburgh to London train is OVER 4 hours. Edinburgh to Manchester fastest is over 3 hours, Birmingham even longer |
On the other hand, for Birmingham and Manchester at least, the train is much more frequent in normal times, and gives you uninterrupted work time.
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gives you uninterrupted work time |
Originally Posted by D7666
(Post 10770395)
Be interesting if similar criteria is imposed on BA - should they receive a gov dot uk bale out - as been imposed on Air France w.r.t. short domestic flights:
https://www.railjournal.com/passenge...ail-in-france/ That would surely kill LHR to both MAN and LBA, and even NCL GLA and EDI if the French 1 h 15 min flight became a UK 1 h 30 m. And UK+FR for example and/or other lands acting together could kill off LHR CDG / BRU, and so on. in favour of channel tunnel - in terms of flight time, if 1 h 30 m were set. -- Nick |
On the other hand, for Birmingham and Manchester at least, the train is much more frequent in normal times, and gives you uninterrupted work time. |
Scotland to Manchester will now always be a brand new 397 aka Nova 2. To Birmingham it will usually be a pendolino, but you will sometimes unfortunately get a Voyager. Avanti will replace them.
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Originally Posted by crewmeal
(Post 10772358)
Riding on those God awaful Voyagers, no thanks!
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This is supposed to be a thread about BA not a discussion about Thomas the tank engine
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Originally Posted by HZ123
(Post 10768921)
I note that to often the reference is to BA! The reality is IAG are calling the shots and what counts are their plans. LGW can be operated by Vueling, Level and Iberia Express, particularly as IAG will in the future have a large fleet of surplus aircrafts. Indeed BA CityFlyer may also have a role to play at LHR and LGW, though immediate future of social distancing on an EMB will be a challenge. With the sad likelihood of at least 1 in 5 job losses it will be years before people have the finances to fly as frequently as they used to.
Also would they be able to increase seat count on their fleet and get the bigger E195s? |
This is supposed to be a thread about BA not a discussion about Thomas the tank engine |
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