Nope I wasn’t but they will need more than the couple they have and
also will need higher ratings? Unless of course they are away now on courses while the airport is closed? Would guess for a seven day operation 15 hours..guess per day..they would need more than two controllers? |
Depending on Loganair's SOPs they may not need a full ATC service at all. It's sparse airspace and an ungenested field and it's 4 rotations a day ...
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Full ATC service? Think they will...
Imagine the subsequent court of inquiry...” So you operated a scheduled service into an airfield with limitedor no ATC services?.. ouch... |
I guess that CAX won't be employing met staff so it is likely to be the ATC staff doing the wx observations that shall include leaving the tower to go to the white box on stilts to check the temperatures ... One controller can't control and go walkabout at the same time so likely they'll have assistant controllers also.
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Surely in 2018 they have instrumentation in the white box which displays its data in the Control Room?
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Already several of the airfields in the Western Isles which receive regular services by Loganair are operated with AFIS not ATC. In the Orkneys the regular Islander services fly into airfields without even an A/G service, though this is day VFR only.
Carlisle have been providing METARs for a good few years. I suspect a modern technological solution may be found that obviates the need for a controller to go out and look in a white box to check the ambient temperature.:E |
Originally Posted by highwideandugly
(Post 10091980)
Full ATC service? Think they will...
Imagine the subsequent court of inquiry...” So you operated a scheduled service into an airfield with limitedor no ATC services?.. ouch... The difference at Carlisle is that they have already had publicly-available instrument approach procedures for years. Changing them to be for use by approved operators only (as is the case at Campbeltown, Islay, Tiree and Barra) would I suspect be tricky. The additional problem is that at Carlisle there's a significant risk of military traffic associated with Spadeadam wazzing through the instrument pattern. That would up the assessed level of risk carried out under CAP 1122, making it less likely they'd get approval for IAPs with AFISO only. Similarly, since Carlisle has a significant amount of visual circuit traffic, the difficulties of safely integrating that with instrument traffic with AFISO only make it unlikely CAA would approve that. |
Took a good luck at the work at the airport today.
Terminal outer structure complete,lots of internal work including walls ! Needed.. Car park in front nearly finished..not sure about apron. The runway still needs a bit of work..I’m still not sure about that huge dip at the west end..I thought that was going to be filled in?No sign of lighting? Could be some interesting landings on that direction! In all massive progress..still think it will be a white elephant and the Carlisle economy would have been better served by duelling the A69 eastwards? |
The A69 certainly needs dualling, but the money required to do that is on a different scale altogether.
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Originally Posted by highwideandugly
(Post 10111436)
Took a good luck at the work at the airport today.
Terminal outer structure complete,lots of internal work including walls ! Needed.. Car park in front nearly finished..not sure about apron. The runway still needs a bit of work..I’m still not sure about that huge dip at the west end..I thought that was going to be filled in?No sign of lighting? Could be some interesting landings on that direction! In all massive progress..still think it will be a white elephant and the Carlisle economy would have been better served by duelling the A69 eastwards? |
Originally Posted by EGPO
(Post 10112014)
By any chance did you get any photos of the progress please ?
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Originally Posted by rowly6339
(Post 10112494)
Got a couple but for some reason won't let me upload to here.
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The car park, which will include four disabled spots and 66 other spaces, “We’ve been overwhelmed by the messages of support that we have received over social media and everyone I have met in the region over the last few months is so excited about this project. I would especially like to thank our partners, Loganair, who are just brilliant. Tickets are going fast, so make sure to book online.” Carlisle Airport to offer free parking when flights launch on June 4 | News & Star |
The move comes after Stobart Group was awarded £4.95m by the Cumbria Local Enterprise Partnership to develop the airport. |
Perhaps Stobart prepare a better business case (offer flights, that sort of thing)?
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photos
I was in the area so took photos of the Terminal and new runway . Please can anyone tell me how to upload them.
Also got chatting to a few insure plus the Stobart manager . I'd asked if I could go into the building site to take photos. Whilst discussing the larger than expected Terminal. I asked about other airlines. His response was they are talking to several one close to coming thru with ,' jet destinations'. I'm not convinced.. Even if the terminal a seperate gloomy building is larger than implied |
Originally Posted by EGPO
(Post 10129027)
I was in the area so took photos of the Terminal and new runway . Please can anyone tell me how to upload them.
Also got chatting to a few insure plus the Stobart manager . I'd asked if I could go into the building site to take photos. Whilst discussing the larger than expected Terminal. I asked about other airlines. His response was they are talking to several one close to coming thru with ,' jet destinations'. I'm not convinced.. Even if the terminal a seperate gloomy building is larger than implied |
Even if the terminal a seperate gloomy building is larger than implied |
Most is the terminal . The remainder offices .
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Originally Posted by EGPO
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Most is the terminal . The remainder offices .
Stobart Group to move infrastructure arm to Carlisle airport The relocation will see around 180 employees, including 50 remote workers, move from Solway Business Centre. |
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