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miked11 29th May 2018 21:36


Originally Posted by 737James (Post 10159980)
Anybody know whats going on with TUI at EMA I thought it was a 737 only base but for the last two days a 757 has been based there and operating some of the flights.

I have not seen any evidence of any of the 737 going sick so may be planned.

I think it may have been swapped around with G-FDZE. The 757 currently operating out of EMA came from BHX to operate yesterdays Dalaman flight, as G-FDZE sat at EMA from returning from Funchal, so maybe went tech after this flight? Then today G-FDZE went over to BHX to operate from there.

737James 29th May 2018 21:50

Miked11- I think it must have been planned for the 757 to go to EMA yesterday as there was no significant delays which would happen if 737 ZE had gone tech as would have had to have call out 757 crew and get aircraft from BHX to EMA

I wonder if bookings for 2018 have been strong from EMA so they will be using a 757 for the summer if so anyone know what routes it’s operating ?

ROC10 30th May 2018 13:48


Originally Posted by PDXCWL45 (Post 10160099)
Cardiff, Luton and Doncaster will all have 3 based aircraft from 2019.

Will Glasgow go back to two based aircraft?

PDXCWL45 30th May 2018 13:58


Originally Posted by ROC10 (Post 10160723)


Will Glasgow go back to two based aircraft?

I have no idea but I'd be surprised if they downsized it if it's a 3 aircraft base.

awwdabaaby 30th May 2018 13:58


Originally Posted by ROC10 (Post 10160723)


Will Glasgow go back to two based aircraft?

yes, think it will be a 757 and 738 base next year

ROC10 30th May 2018 13:59

Does anyone know why today's BY1345 PUY-EDI (G-TAWD) was diverted to BHX?

G-TAWD is now sitting at BHX and G-FDZE has just positioned BHX-EDI.

The aircraft was actually closer to MAN before making a sharp turn and flying south to BHX. G-TAWD only just arrived at EDI from BHX yesterday after swapping with G-TAWH which has been sitting at BHX all day.

awwdabaaby 30th May 2018 13:59


Originally Posted by PDXCWL45 (Post 10160732)
I have no idea but I'd be surprised if they downsized it if it's a 3 aircraft base.

technically the 787 isn't based so only a one aircraft base just now

ROC10 30th May 2018 14:01


Originally Posted by awwdabaaby (Post 10160733)
yes, think it will be a 757 and 738 base next year

Yeah, I was thinking similar.

ROC10 30th May 2018 14:03


Originally Posted by PDXCWL45 (Post 10160732)
I have no idea but I'd be surprised if they downsized it if it's a 3 aircraft base.

It has normally always been 2x752 along with part time 788. This year it is only 1x752 plus 738 w-patterns from ABZ/NCL/EMA most days, along with the part time 788.

OltonPete 30th May 2018 18:15

G-TAWD
 

Originally Posted by ROC10 (Post 10160735)
Does anyone know why today's BY1345 PUY-EDI (G-TAWD) was diverted to BHX?

G-TAWD is now sitting at BHX and G-FDZE has just positioned BHX-EDI.

The aircraft was actually closer to MAN before making a sharp turn and flying south to BHX. G-TAWD only just arrived at EDI from BHX yesterday after swapping with G-TAWH which has been sitting at BHX all day.

Not sure about the reason for this diversion but BHX usually has a spare aircraft, either a 757 or 737 so I suppose it makes sense if there is an issue. Previous divert was 26th May 757 G-CPEV MAN-PMI (fuel transfer issue?) and at the time G-CPEU was the spare although EV eventually continued to Palma.

Whether this will be the case next summer I am not sure as the timetable shows 8 based short-haul up one from summer 2018.

Pete

inOban 30th May 2018 20:17

Just curious. How often do tui rotate a/c for maintenance. EDI has only one frame, which in peak season, from June 11, flies two rotations every day, usually ending well after midnight. How often must it visit a main base?

ROC10 30th May 2018 21:44


Originally Posted by inOban (Post 10161005)
Just curious. How often do tui rotate a/c for maintenance. EDI has only one frame, which in peak season, from June 11, flies two rotations every day, usually ending well after midnight. How often must it visit a main base?

G-TAWH was based at EDI for one month straight, flying every day. Just yesterday it swapped with BHX’s G-TAWD and already this aircraft has returned to BHX via a divert leaving EDI with the much older G-FDZE...

It really does seem to be quite variable with regard to frequency of swapping aircraft. Some bases seem to be constantly swapping whilst others seem to almost never swap. I remember an aircraft was based at DSA for over eight months straight last year...

I was always under the impression that LTN was the mainitenace based and that the aim of swapping was to eventually get the aircraft into LTN. I’m not sure if this is actually the case though.

ROC10 30th May 2018 21:51


Originally Posted by OltonPete (Post 10160939)
Not sure about the reason for this diversion but BHX usually has a spare aircraft, either a 757 or 737 so I suppose it makes sense if there is an issue. Previous divert was 26th May 757 G-CPEV MAN-PMI (fuel transfer issue?) and at the time G-CPEU was the spare although EV eventually continued to Palma.

Whether this will be the case next summer I am not sure as the timetable shows 8 based short-haul up one from summer 2018.

Pete

Yes I have actually noticed this too this year, regarding BHX having a spare aircraft, I always thought that MAN normally had a spare aircraft in the past. Just seemed a bit coincidental that G-TAWD was BHX based until yesterday and is now already back there today, and unfortunate that EDI have ended up with G-FDZE lol.

Just out of curiosity, where do you find the “timetable” that you mention, or do you work with TUI?

OltonPete 30th May 2018 22:52

TUI
 

Originally Posted by ROC10 (Post 10161067)


Yes I have actually noticed this too this year, regarding BHX having a spare aircraft, I always thought that MAN normally had a spare aircraft in the past. Just seemed a bit coincidental that G-TAWD was BHX based until yesterday and is now already back there today, and unfortunate that EDI have ended up with G-FDZE lol.

Just out of curiosity, where do you find the “timetable” that you mention, or do you work with TUI?

No I am not part of the airline business. The timetable is part on the online flight only booking portal - hopefully this link opens but note aircraft types are not shown other than the 787 services TUI

ROC10 30th May 2018 22:59


Originally Posted by OltonPete (Post 10161104)
No I am not part of the airline business. The timetable is part on the online flight only booking portal - hopefully this link opens but note aircraft types are not shown other than the 787 services TUI

Ah yes, I’ve used this before. It never really seems to work (says there are no flights from certain bases etc). I just wondered if there was a clearer timetable which showed all the departures from each base rather than having to go through a faulty booking engine.

Gurnard 31st May 2018 09:21

PORTO SANTO
Does anyone know what is happening this year to the weekly LGW-PXO flight? According to TUI's website it should be operating, but it was not listed this Monday or the previous one. However, Norwegian have operated the route for at least two weeks on Mondays at a time similar to TUI's schedule, though it is not offered on their website.

LAX2000 31st May 2018 10:25


Originally Posted by Gurnard (Post 10161390)
PORTO SANTO
Does anyone know what is happening this year to the weekly LGW-PXO flight? According to TUI's website it should be operating, but it was not listed this Monday or the previous one. However, Norwegian have operated the route for at least two weeks on Mondays at a time similar to TUI's schedule, though it is not offered on their website.

Norweigan flight numbers D89*** from Gatwick are operated on behalf of TUI. I believe only bookable via TUI and it states operated by Norweigian in the booking process.

ROC10 1st Jun 2018 16:00

W-Patterns
 
This may sound like a stilly question but I was wondering how the crewing of W-patterns works? For example, how would ABZ-DLM-GLA-DLM-ABZ be crewed? And would it be any different for shorter flights like ABZ-PMI-GLA-PMI-ABZ?

Cazza_fly 2nd Jun 2018 00:01


Originally Posted by ROC10 (Post 10162557)
This may sound like a stilly question but I was wondering how the crewing of W-patterns works? For example, how would ABZ-DLM-GLA-DLM-ABZ be crewed? And would it be any different for shorter flights like ABZ-PMI-GLA-PMI-ABZ?

The crew will operate ABZ-DLM-GLA and then taxi back to their base at ABZ. Sometimes however they may be required to stay overnight in GLA and operate another flight from GLA the following day or even sent to another UK base. A new crew will then join the aircraft and operate the GLA-DLM-ABZ service. This could either be operated by GLA or ABZ based crew, but they will always be taken to and from their home bases at the end of their working blocks

The same happens on the shorter flights you mentioned.

boeing_eng 3rd Jun 2018 06:53

Just curious. How often do tui rotate a/c for maintenance. EDI has only one frame, which in peak season, from June 11, flies two rotations every day, usually ending well after midnight. How often must it visit a main base

The smaller bases such as EXT, BOH & EDI have very limited engineering coverage. An aircraft will be swapped into a larger base if a technical issue requires it and obviously for routine checks.

dmouse88 4th Jun 2018 11:18

Are G-TUIC and G-TUID in full economy seatfit for summer short flights. I will be travelling to Antalya on BY286 from Gatwick. If so what is the seating plan is it similar to 767, trying to work out where is the best place to sit. Many thanks for any answers.

Danny G 4th Jun 2018 13:22


Are G-TUIC and G-TUID in full economy seatfit for summer short flights. I will be travelling to Antalya on BY286 from Gatwick. If so what is the seating plan is it similar to 767, trying to work out where is the best place to sit. Many thanks for any answers.
I asked the same question over ar Passengers and SLF a couple of weeks ago and was told no but looking at their last weeks sectors both only did short hauls at the moment, if you book through to reserve your seats on the TUI website you will be able to tell as the premium cabin will be 2-3-2 if they are not in full economy mode.

sparkie320 4th Jun 2018 18:00


Originally Posted by boeing_eng (Post 10163692)
Just curious. How often do tui rotate a/c for maintenance. EDI has only one frame, which in peak season, from June 11, flies two rotations every day, usually ending well after midnight. How often must it visit a main base

The smaller bases such as EXT, BOH & EDI have very limited engineering coverage. An aircraft will be swapped into a larger base if a technical issue requires it and obviously for routine checks.

Looking at the Sunwing operation with the 4 aircraft based here for the summer,most try to get back to Leeds where the maintenance is carried out every few weeks,and the change over occurs down route , think Palma being one place, for example Norwich based flies in, followed by the Leeds one or vice versa, within minutes of each other and crew swop aircraft
assume duty free stock etc and take the Leeds one to Norwich , whilst the Norwich one goes to Leeds and on

I would guess EDI got good ground crew so basic repairs can be worked on

mark

J93102 5th Jun 2018 00:35

Aruba & St Lucia
 
Hello all,

I’ve been looking at different long haul flights to the Caribbean and noticed that TUI have a weekly flight to Aruba and a weekly flight to St Lucia from London Gatwick. With them only having 1 weekly flight to each of the islands does this mean the flight crew operating the flights would get a 7 day layover at each of the destinations? I can imagine that being quite nice to get a full week layover or is that the norm these days for layovers.

Thanks.

Rutan16 5th Jun 2018 07:17

J93102 No long layovers simply repositioning via Manchester or to another island or Amsterdam via group parnter or a scheduled carrier is the usual option these days.

Smudge's Lot 5th Jun 2018 09:58

J93102
Nope, not a week, it's 1 night in AUA, position to MIA for 1 night, then position to UVF for 1 night to operate back to the UK. Far from being a nice layover, trust me, it's pretty knackering.

Dmouse88
So far, the 787-8 are staying in the 300 config and the 787-9 in the 345 config, ie their respective standard long haul seating layout. The reason for this is that TUI were caught out a few times last year when a short haul 787(325) was replaced with a long haul 787(300), meaning that 25 pax would not be carried. This way, the -9 could easily replace a broken -8,or any other -8 sitting around.

They might reconfigure 2 of the -8s for the peak summer season (Jul-Aug) to 325 config

ROC10 5th Jun 2018 13:39

Does anyone know why G-TUIJ has been in Abu Dhabi for two weeks now?

Smudge's Lot 5th Jun 2018 14:26

Delayed maintenance we have been told!

Mooncrest 5th Jun 2018 15:12


Originally Posted by sparkie320 (Post 10164843)
Looking at the Sunwing operation with the 4 aircraft based here for the summer,most try to get back to Leeds where the maintenance is carried out every few weeks,and the change over occurs down route , think Palma being one place, for example Norwich based flies in, followed by the Leeds one or vice versa, within minutes of each other and crew swop aircraft
assume duty free stock etc and take the Leeds one to Norwich , whilst the Norwich one goes to Leeds and on

I would guess EDI got good ground crew so basic repairs can be worked on

mark

FYI, Sunwing maintenance at LBA is performed by Monarch. It is nice that Monarch is still with us, albeit in Engineering form only. Incidentally, Monarch retained their LBA Maintenance base from the time of the airline ceasing operations and throughout the winter, providing ad-hoc support to Enter Air, among others. I don't know who looks after Sunwing at Norwich, Dublin and Belfast.

NickBarnes 6th Jun 2018 07:44

KLM engineering at NWI I do believe

dmouse88 6th Jun 2018 12:27


Originally Posted by J93102 (Post 10165092)
Hello all,

I’ve been looking at different long haul flights to the Caribbean and noticed that TUI have a weekly flight to Aruba and a weekly flight to St Lucia from London Gatwick. With them only having 1 weekly flight to each of the islands does this mean the flight crew operating the flights would get a 7 day layover at each of the destinations? I can imagine that being quite nice to get a full week layover or is that the norm these days for layovers.

Thanks.

Being Ex military and used to how slip crews were positioned, I will give you the possible scenario of Birmingham crews on their schedules. Day 1 BHX-CAN, crew reposition to PUJ to fly Tues flt PUJ-BHX, inbound reposition to MBJ to fly Wed flt MBJ-BHX, inbound reposition to SFB to fly Thu flt SFB-BHX, inbound reposition CAN for Fri flt CAN-BHX, inbound reposition to PUJ to fly Sat flt PUJ-BHX, inbound reposition MBJ for Sun flt MBJ-BHX, inbound reposition to CAN for Mon flt Can-BHX. This is my type of usage pattern ensuring all BHX crews arrive back at BHX without road transport between UK bases. This system would be used between say LGW-LIB mon, go to UVF for Tue flt, go to PUJ for Wed flt, stay for Thur flt, go to PVR for Fri flt, go to SFB for Sat flt and so on and so forth this system allows for One crew at home base resting, one operating out/rest and one operating in/rest. Not knowing what crewing TUI are operating this is for guidance only in how some airlines not operating daily flights might operate. I hope that this has been of help regarding your query.

oldbalboy 6th Jun 2018 16:40

FYI TUIC & D now in 325 summer s/haul config

sergy2k 6th Jun 2018 19:05

Looking at flights to Naples for S19 from LGW and noticed a massive increase in capacity vs. this year. Looks like 3 flights a week in peak, all operated by 787 Dreamliner (Mon/Weds/Fri). Now I know that its early days and its subject to change but it seems like a massive boost in capacity. Anyone know any reason for this?

(as an aside, me and my elderly parents flew this route a couple of years ago when TUI were operating the 787 on the Friday morning departure. My parents thoroughly enjoyed the flight as we had upgraded to premium so really enjoyed the extra space)

PDXCWL45 6th Jun 2018 19:59


Originally Posted by sergy2k (Post 10166648)
Looking at flights to Naples for S19 from LGW and noticed a massive increase in capacity vs. this year. Looks like 3 flights a week in peak, all operated by 787 Dreamliner (Mon/Weds/Fri). Now I know that its early days and its subject to change but it seems like a massive boost in capacity. Anyone know any reason for this?

(as an aside, me and my elderly parents flew this route a couple of years ago when TUI were operating the 787 on the Friday morning departure. My parents thoroughly enjoyed the flight as we had upgraded to premium so really enjoyed the extra space)

They have a cruise ship operating from there from next summer.

J93102 6th Jun 2018 22:42


Originally Posted by Rutan16 (Post 10165245)
J93102 No long layovers simply repositioning via Manchester or to another island or Amsterdam via group parnter or a scheduled carrier is the usual option these days.

Many thanks for the responses. So is it possible UK crews operate flights for TUI Netherlands too?

ROC10 6th Jun 2018 23:22

G-TUIJ finally en route back to Manchester after two weeks in Abu Dhabi.

EI-A330-300 10th Jun 2018 10:31

Is the only standby aircraft a B789?

Rutan16 10th Jun 2018 11:50


Originally Posted by J93102 (Post 10166805)


Many thanks for the responses. So is it possible UK crews operate flights for TUI Netherlands too?

No not operationally but certainly a positioning sector.

OltonPete 10th Jun 2018 18:23

Standby aircraft
 

Originally Posted by EI-A330-300 (Post 10169563)
Is the only standby aircraft a B789?

There is usually a 757 at BHX but the last two days it has been covering for one of the EMA 738's.

Also at the end of May the 757 was often on one the BHX 738 schedules, whether this was covering for tech, crew or ATC delays, I can't be sure.

I have noticed TUI tend to position the aircraft to wherever the problem is whereas often Thomas Cook bus the passengers wherever the spare is, if it is fairly close or logistically possible of course (crew hours etc)

Pete

sparkie320 10th Jun 2018 18:24

C-FEAK
 
Is there any reason why this one has not operated from NWI whilst enjoying the British Summer
last year she spend in total about 2 days at NWI due to Tech aircraft and other incidents but never swopped to base here for a period unlike the other 3
so far this year not made
only reason ask is need to photo it
cheers
mark


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