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pamann 5th Jan 2018 18:02

BFS/DUB

Same question comes up yearly.

From what I understand it is a long term agreement. So yes to 2018, yes to 2019. 99.9% yes for the next 10/15/20 years.

BFS BHD 5th Jan 2018 18:09

Thanks! :)

vrb03kt 6th Jan 2018 14:02

I reckon 99.9% certainty for anything in the airline industry over the next 6 months is fanciful, never mind the next 10/15/20 years! ;)

clipstone1 7th Jan 2018 11:22

All the time that TUI owns 49% of sunwing I would suggest it's more than likely

dmouse88 8th Jan 2018 10:57

I see G-TUIB is back up flying doing MAN-PUJ today BY112. 7 weeks out of action that would have been expensive.

Curious Pax 8th Jan 2018 11:04

Surprised there doesn't seem to have test flight after major surgery. But then I'm not an engineer!

peterhr 23rd Jan 2018 07:37

One has to assume it's been inflated / pressure tested :)

sparkie320 23rd Jan 2018 12:36

Sunwing 2018
 
Does anyone one know what 4 aircraft, are due across this Summer for TUI Assistance do they use the same aircraft each year to come across
i know Belfast, Dublin,Leeds, and Norwich are booked to be the bases this year
with Liverpool, Humberside being served by one of the bases in a W pattern

Jerry123 23rd Jan 2018 13:31

Does anyone know what carrier TUI will be using for their non based flights out of Antalya and Dalaman this summer?

CabinCrewe 30th Jan 2018 11:34

Nice to see the first Max delivered to TUI, albeit to Belgium division.
Never keen on the 'tui.com' titles on the engines- just clutter- does anyone need that to find them online?!

Paul Atkins144 30th Jan 2018 12:43

Yes Jerry flights will be operated by Freebird

Jerry123 30th Jan 2018 13:25

Thank you for the reply!

LGS6753 1st Feb 2018 10:18

From Blue Swan:
TUI Group outlined (29-Jan-2018) its fleet renewal strategy, as follows:

Fleet renewal will be complete by 2023;
70 Boeing 737 MAX aircraft on order including 52 737 MAX 8 and 18 737 MAX 10;
Nine 737 MAX 8 aircraft to be delivered by the end of 2018. To be operated by TUI in Belgium, Sweden, UK and the Netherlands;
20% lower kerosene consumption, 14% lower carbon emissions and 40% reduction in noise footprint compared to aircraft of the same size previously operated by TUI;
TUI operates a fleet of 150 aircraft.

MUFC_fan 3rd Feb 2018 11:22

MAX 10s to replace the 757 fleet in the UK I assume? There are 14 at the moment providing an extra 32 seats/flight to the 737-800/MAX (and a fair amount of extra legroom seats too !)

crewmeal 3rd Feb 2018 11:48

What will happen to the TC and Starquest Expedition 757 that's specially configured and flies around the world?

clipstone1 6th Feb 2018 07:05

Well now TCS and Starquest is not owned by TUI there's every chance it won't continue after the current contract term I guess?

22/04 6th Feb 2018 08:36

Titan would be ideal to pick that up

garry8g 14th Feb 2018 17:45

Jethros reporting that TUI B788 G-TUIG is to transfer to TUI Belgium in March 18.

nigel osborne 14th Feb 2018 19:44

I think 789 TUIK is going to TUI UK instead of Belgium

garry8g 14th Feb 2018 23:04

TUIK is already with TUI UK.

All the current ordered B789's were all scheduled to go to TUI UK.

chaps1954 15th Feb 2018 06:12

Yes I heard G-TUIL B789 is to replace G-TUIG as there will be a B789 based at MAN from
April.

PAXboy 16th Feb 2018 16:03

The Guardian

Tui's male employees paid more than double female staff – report

Travel group’s report says women earn 56.9% less than men but it is ‘not an equal pay issue’
https://www.theguardian.com/society/...e-staff-report

Smudge's Lot 20th Feb 2018 09:33

Means nothing, the article is not comparing like with like.
Its obvious that a pilot will earn more than cabin crew, regardless of gender.
All the pilots are paid the same, regardless of gender, all the cabin crew are paid the same, regardless of gender.
Shock horror....pilots earn more than Cabin Crew.

bycrewlgw 20th Feb 2018 10:28

What is happening to journalism? That’s an awful article.

Smudge's Lot 16th Mar 2018 16:49

The next 787-9, G-TUIL will be delivered from Seattle tonight arriving into MAN in the early hours of Saturday morning where it will spend a few days with engineering mods before entering service.
G-TUIM due mid May
G-TUIG will transfer to Jetair in Belgium

nigel osborne 16th Mar 2018 20:46


Originally Posted by Vokes55 (Post 9931240)
The -9s do have their own line of flying, generally the high density routes from Gatwick to Cancun, MoBay and Sanford are almost all on the -9.

Not sure of the plans for the two new arrivals next year, I'd imagine three at Gatwick, one at Manchester. They're much more premium heavy than the -8s, so better suited to the LGW market.

I had always thought that the 789s would be extras on the 788s.

Hadn't anticipated they would dispose of 788s when the 9s arrived.

Harder to predict how much further the route network can expand with the 787 fleet now.

nigel osborne 16th Mar 2018 20:56


Originally Posted by Vokes55 (Post 9931240)
The -9s do have their own line of flying, generally the high density routes from Gatwick to Cancun, MoBay and Sanford are almost all on the -9.

Not sure of the plans for the two new arrivals next year, I'd imagine three at Gatwick, one at Manchester. They're much more premium heavy than the -8s, so better suited to the LGW market.

I had always thought that the 789s would be extras on the 788s.

Hadn't anticipated they would dispose of 788s when the 9s arrived.

Harder to predict how much further the route network can expand with the 787 fleet now.

CabinCrewe 16th Mar 2018 21:49

suppose its like the 762's getting ditched for 763's back in the day as economies of scale and increased efficiencies were realised. I personally preferred the proportions of 762 and this 788

canberra97 16th Mar 2018 21:54

Have I missed something but where does it actually state that TUI UK are disposing of their Boeing 788 fleet in favour of the Boeing 789?

Rutan16 17th Mar 2018 08:31

TUI Group aren’t removing than 788 however just shovelling the deck chairs so to speak

canberra97 17th Mar 2018 15:35


Originally Posted by Rutan16 (Post 10086794)
TUI Group aren’t removing than 788 however just shovelling the deck chairs so to speak

Well a few others including Mr Osbourne is confusing the story a bit by their incoherent posts hence why I posed the question!

Vokes55 17th Mar 2018 23:17

One 788 is going from UK to Belgium, whilst two 789 join the UK fleet. That's all.

737James 18th Mar 2018 00:23

When do TUI UK start receiving the Max aircraft ? I was talking to a TUI base engineer and was saying that some of the older 737s were getting harder to maintain and the cabins in particular were getting very tired as don’t have the Sky interior.

I presume the Max10s will go to the 757 bases so they can do the longer routes.

shamrock7seal 18th Mar 2018 05:38

Yes they are just optimising 787 fleet.

They can’t stop using the 788 as it has better runway performance for the likes of Bristol. The 789 needs a longer take-off field length to do Cancun for example. The economics of the 789 operating from BRS would be worse than the 788.

FRatSTN 26th Mar 2018 08:37

Summer 2019
 
TUI reveals 'most ambitious programme ever'

40 new routes in total planned for Summer 2019 from 15 UK airports, 65% of which will be unique to TUI.

Focus for growth reportedly being Birmingham, Cardiff, Doncaster/Sheffield, East Midlands, Glasgow-Intl and Manchester who'll collectively represent 60% of growth.

Additional capacity being added to Croatia, Greece, Turkey and Cape Verde.

Described as "'dynamic regional aviation plan'" and "the most ambitious programme [TUI] have ever introduced."

Summer 2019 flights and holidays go on sale Thursday 5th April.

New routes/additions confirmed so far...

Cardiff
New routes to Dubrovnik and Naples
Summer flights to Hurghada
Added frequencies to Corfu, Kos, Paphos, Rhodes and Zante
Increase to 3x based aircraft
100,000 additional seats

Doncaster/Sheffield
New short/mid-haul routes to Bodrum, Hurghada, Kos and Pula
Long-haul flights introduced; New route to Orlando/Sanford
Added frequencies to Alicante, Antalya, Rhodes and Zante
Increase to 3x based aircraft + Dreamliner services to SFB
110,000 additional seats

Keyvon 28th Mar 2018 21:31

24 new routes have been unveiled so far...

Aberdeen-Rhodes
Birmingham-Split
Birmingham-Thessaloniki
Birmingham-Agadir
Birmingham-Izmir
Bournemouth-Kefalonia
Bournemouth-Antalya
Bournemouth-Heraklion
Cardiff-Dubrovnik
Cardiff-Naples
Doncaster/Sheffield-Bodrum
Doncaster/Sheffield-Hurghada
Doncaster/Sheffield-Kos
Doncaster/Sheffield-Pula
Doncaster/Sheffield-Orlando/Sanford
East Midlands-Faro
East Midlands-Santorini
Exeter-Zakinthos
Exeter-Heraklion
Exeter-Antalya
Liverpool-Dalaman
Luton-Hurghada
Luton-Thessaloniki
Luton-Heraklion


...other 16 still to be made public.
Guess new capacity will be allocated to LGW, STN, MAN, BRS, GLA, BFS and possibly a few new routes destined to other secondary airports for TUI such as LBA, EDI or even SEN, SOU, HUY, LDY.
Apparently no additional destinations for NCL and NWI, but increased frequencies on existing routes.

As for TUI Ireland:

Dublin-Paphos
Dublin-Dalaman

caaardiff 29th Mar 2018 06:14

Is all this expansion based on Max deliveries? With some 757s leaving the fleet before S19 and the amount of additional flights im guessing no airports are losing capacity in order to shift aircraft elsewhere?

McBruce 29th Mar 2018 09:31

Its expansion based on something. No one knows yet. Could be additional aircraft into TUIA or could be 3rd party. Internal comms suggests this decision is still to be made, although that could just be HR malarkey as company/union are locking horns at the moment.

Recruitment has opened earlier than normal so that maybe a hint that the company are gearing towards a busy training year and thus having to start earlier than normal if the expansion comes in-house.

rog747 30th Mar 2018 08:17


Originally Posted by CabinCrewe (Post 10086440)
suppose its like the 762's getting ditched for 763's back in the day as economies of scale and increased efficiencies were realised. I personally preferred the proportions of 762 and this 788

the 767-200's were a bit long in the tooth

even the most recent (18 yo) a/c BYAA/AB went to the scrappers
BRIF/BRIG and BOPB saw life with Excel Silverjet and Jordan Av.

all were ER and CF6 80 powered but they did not have large forward cargo doors and had little resale in them

configs were 2-4-2 seating and was tight

4 x 763's remain now but only the BY -304 build and not any of the ex AMM or UKL a/c remain


BRS airport once they lose the 757's from there will see more operational difficulties with op'g 737-800 or MAX from there due to runway length and weather issues

MerchantVenturer 30th Mar 2018 10:47


Originally Posted by rog747 (Post 10101859)
BRS airport once they lose the 757's from there will see more operational difficulties with op'g 737-800 or MAX from there due to runway length and weather issues

TUI has based a B737-800 at BRS along with the two B757s for the past three summers. This summer it will be two 737-800s together together with the two 757s.

The 737-800s have been operating on routes to the Canaries, Cyprus, Turkey and the Greek Islands as well as on shorter routes. Have there been problems with them at BRS during this time? I've not heard or read about any.


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