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daz211 27th Nov 2019 08:08

Yesterday Jet2 Holidays announced the launch of VIBE by Jet2.

Iconic Vibe.
Party Vibe.
Pure Vibe.
Chilled Vibe.

More info on Jet2 website.

Flying Hi 27th Nov 2019 08:21


Originally Posted by daz211 (Post 10627455)
Yesterday Jet2 Holidays announced the launch of VIBE by Jet2.

Iconic Vibe.
Party Vibe.
Pure Vibe.
Chilled Vibe.

More info on Jet2 website.

Oh dear! Club 18-30 2.0 ?
​​​​​​(And I have read the full blurb)

Be a good chap 28th Nov 2019 08:58

I notice the first EWR flights are leaving from LBA & NCL today.

Is it only LBA using the B752 and all other departure airports are using the A332?

Plane.Silly 28th Nov 2019 09:51


Originally Posted by Be a good chap (Post 10628167)
I notice the first EWR flights are leaving from LBA & NCL today.

Is it only LBA using the B752 and all other departure airports are using the A332?

Yes, LBA is the only airport that can't handle the A330, so they have to stick with the B752
Of the 10 B752 left in the fleet, only 5 can make the distance (winglet).

All other airports can handle the A330,

chaps1954 28th Nov 2019 10:01

I thought it was because they were etops not range restricted as winglets don`t increase range just make
plane more efficient.

Yeehaw22 28th Nov 2019 10:41


Originally Posted by chaps1954 (Post 10628198)
winglets don`t increase range just make
plane more efficient.

which in turn increases range. Not by much maybe 2-300 miles.

chaps1954 28th Nov 2019 10:48

Still don`t think it has altered the range it is allowed to fly

Mooncrest 28th Nov 2019 11:10

AB, AC, AE, AK and AN comprise the Jet2 ETOPS 757 fleet. All have winglets but I don't know if there are any other significant differences between these aircraft and their other 757s.

Flying Wild 28th Nov 2019 11:47


Originally Posted by Mooncrest (Post 10628243)
AB, AC, AE, AK and AN comprise the Jet2 ETOPS 757 fleet. All have winglets but I don't know if there are any other significant differences between these aircraft and their other 757s.

stricter maintenance regime, different equipment required on board amongst other things,

Yeehaw22 28th Nov 2019 11:48


Originally Posted by chaps1954 (Post 10628229)
Still don`t think it has altered the range it is allowed to fly

Allowed to fly? They dont have a set max range. If the aircraft consumes less fuel over a set distance then it has more range.

As has been said it will be due to etops requirements rather than winglets although suspect all the 757 are maintained to etops standards otherwise parts stockholding becomes a nightmare. The winglets will give a bit more leeway especially going westbound at this time of year.

excrab 28th Nov 2019 12:25


Originally Posted by chaps1954 (Post 10628229)
Still don`t think it has altered the range it is allowed to fly

The winglets make the aircraft more efficient, which reduces the fuel flow per hour at the same airspeed and therefore increases its range. What they don't do is increase the allowable still air time/distance from a suitable airport (the ETOPS rule under which the aircraft is operating), which may be what you're thinking of.

chaps1954 28th Nov 2019 13:11

excrab probably thanks. Am I right non etops will have to fly much closer to land/airports therefore probably making a much longer journey

Chesty Morgan 28th Nov 2019 13:46


Originally Posted by excrab (Post 10628280)
What they don't do is increase the allowable still air time/distance from a suitable airport (the ETOPS rule under which the aircraft is operating), which may be what you're thinking of.

I'm not questioning your 757 knowledge but the 737 800s with winglets have a greater allowable distance to a suitable alternate than non-winglet 800s.

Not the same as the 757?

rubymurray 28th Nov 2019 14:45

For non etops flights, the plane needs to fly not further than the distance flown in 60mins at the one engine inop cruising speed in still air, which are:

B737-800 Non Winglet = 395nm
B737-800 Winglet = 400nm
B757-200 = 400nm

So having winglets on the 737 does (just!) make a difference whereas on the 757 it doesn’t.

The AvgasDinosaur 28th Nov 2019 16:17


Originally Posted by rubymurray (Post 10628376)
For non etops flights, the plane needs to fly not further than the distance flown in 60mins at the one engine inop cruising speed in still air, which are:

B737-800 Non Winglet = 395nm
B737-800 Winglet = 400nm
B757-200 = 400nm

So having winglets on the 737 does (just!) make a difference whereas on the 757 it doesn’t.

Just as a point of interest where does the A-321 and A-321WL fit in on that scale, or A-332 ?
Please if you don’t mind?
Be lucky
David

rubymurray 28th Nov 2019 19:07


Originally Posted by The AvgasDinosaur (Post 10628423)

Just as a point of interest where does the A-321 and A-321WL fit in on that scale, or A-332 ?
Please if you don’t mind?
Be lucky
David

No idea, they haven’t appeared in our manuals yet but as a guess I’d say they’d be roughly the same as the Boeings at 400nm

nowhereasfiled 28th Nov 2019 21:02


Originally Posted by rubymurray (Post 10628522)


No idea, they haven’t appeared in our manuals yet but as a guess I’d say they’d be roughly the same as the Boeings at 400nm

A321-211 is 385nm, 231 is 373.

castleford tiger 30th Nov 2019 09:30

comparing v the 300

garry8g 30th Nov 2019 09:58

According to Jethro's yesterday, Jet2 have acquired a further two 2nd hand B737-800's.

G-DRTY & G-DRTZ (Ex Okay Airways B-5575 & B-5577, but formerly Ryanair EI-DAT & EI-DAX). Both around 16 years old.

The fleet continues to expand.

MANFAN 30th Nov 2019 11:12

Any pickle fork issues with Jet2.com?


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