Originally Posted by globetrotter79
(Post 10808305)
Can the E195 carry an economic payload the 3+ hours flying time off IOM runway up to KEF?
Flights up to KEF from IOM have happend before on E jets, so possibly. |
I think we islanders need a shot of warm sunshine after all this virus cr*p, I doubt many will want to head to Iceland - stunning as it is.
I wonder if GR are looking at any souhern 'airbridges'? |
Originally Posted by Jerbourg
(Post 10809884)
I think we islanders need a shot of warm sunshine after all this virus cr*p, I doubt many will want to head to Iceland - stunning as it is.
I wonder if GR are looking at any souhern 'airbridges'? 1) Aurignys E195 performance from Guernsey's short runway. It's going to need to pass through - say Jersey - to also pick up additional passengers and we all know what relationships are like between the Islands down there... 2) It's OK Guernsey having a 'corridor' to say Malta. But if the UK has a corridor there as well for arguments sake, then it takes away the whole safety element of why the corridor exists in the first place. |
Originally Posted by JSCL
(Post 10809912)
Maltah as been touted. But I thinkt the biggest problems are;
1) Aurignys E195 performance from Guernsey's short runway. It's going to need to pass through - say Jersey - to also pick up additional passengers and we all know what relationships are like between the Islands down there... 2) It's OK Guernsey having a 'corridor' to say Malta. But if the UK has a corridor there as well for arguments sake, then it takes away the whole safety element of why the corridor exists in the first place. |
GCI webcam recently shows 3ATR (new ones?) on stand, jet and 2 Dornier ........does anyone know where LERE is?
Pete |
GR have done some sun routes before I believe and want to say it was a GCI-JER-MAH Menorca service on Saturdays. I don’t think it lasted particularly long though so maybe worth a second go now. If air fares are set to rise at all then flying from the Islands direct rather than connecting via London or the mainland may be a beneficial option.
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Originally Posted by Cloud1
(Post 10811803)
GR have done some sun routes before I believe and want to say it was a GCI-JER-MAH Menorca service on Saturdays. I don’t think it lasted particularly long though so maybe worth a second go now. If air fares are set to rise at all then flying from the Islands direct rather than connecting via London or the mainland may be a beneficial option.
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Originally Posted by cobopete
(Post 10811792)
GCI webcam recently shows 3ATR (new ones?)On stand, jet and 2 Dornier ........does anyone know where LERE is?
Pete |
2 nights at the Premier Inn |
Originally Posted by Albert Hall
(Post 10811832)
I thought it was the two "nights" at the Premier Inn being such a problem for many passengers which made the non-stop flights attractive almost regardless of fare?
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Originally Posted by kcockayne
(Post 10811852)
Yes, that is true. But, for me, it is cynical exploitation on the part of the airlines to charge as much as they do to avoid this problem ! I won’t pay the premium, regardless. But , I understand the feelings of those who do. That is what makes me a “real” Guernseyman !
I often put a value on convenience and time saving so if it costs me more to do something but it is easier and less time consuming than the alternative then I will pay it. |
Originally Posted by Cloud1
(Post 10812041)
Or just tight 😉
I often put a value on convenience and time saving so if it costs me more to do something but it is easier and less time consuming than the alternative then I will pay it. |
GCI-IOM Air Bridge:
The Guernsey and Isle of Man governments have agreed to move forward with the planned air bridge , which is expected to be the first established by any governments in the British Isles. It is planned that Aurigny will operate flights from mid-July for an initial six-week period. An Aurigny spokesperson said they were still firming up the details, but were hoping to operate twice weekly rotations. A full schedule should be released next week. The decision to form an air bridge follows talks last week between the chief ministers of Guernsey and the Isle of Man, as well as both governments’ Public Health teams. |
Good luck to them - but it is not likely to help them reduce their £10m pound deficit for this year. Possibly, quite the opposite. You can always blame the “open skies policy” for their losses.
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You could blame open skies - of you were sitting on the Aurigny management side of the fence. But an independent view might raise the various management mistakes made in recent years. The Trislander replacement. The choice of outright purchase of the E195 ( when the more cost efficient CS100 was around the corner ). The purchase of the three new ATRs. The long lease of G-HUET. The setting up of an own handling unit at Gatwick. Pricing strategies. The Blue Island code-share fiasco. The LCY route. Other non-profitable and non-essential routes such as Leeds Bradford, Norwich etc. The competition on the Southampton route, the U-turn on the Jersey route. Need I go on ?
The IoM route - from mid-July to end of August, on a twice weekly ATR rotation, could be actually profitable if the pricing is right and the right days of the week are selected. |
Nuweiba, I completely agree with you. The blaming of the “Open Skies” was made very much tongue in cheek. The policy itself is almost a complete nonsense as, since it was introduced, hardly any new routes have opened up & AUR have not really faced much competition - apart from Heathrow, which was always going to be temporary. There simply are not airlines queuing up to operate flights to Guernsey - even with the prospect of a totally unnecessary longer runway. AUR’s problems result from bad management & the fact that they are a Guernsey based airline owned by the Guernsey Government, which values the security of air routes more than it values a profitable airline. AUR don’t have to worry, though. The States will continue to throw money at them.
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Originally Posted by Nuweiba
(Post 10821592)
You could blame open skies - of you were sitting on the Aurigny management side of the fence. But an independent view might raise the various management mistakes made in recent years. The Trislander replacement. The choice of outright purchase of the E195 ( when the more cost efficient CS100 was around the corner ). The purchase of the three new ATRs. The long lease of G-HUET. The setting up of an own handling unit at Gatwick. Pricing strategies. The Blue Island code-share fiasco. The LCY route. Other non-profitable and non-essential routes such as Leeds Bradford, Norwich etc. The competition on the Southampton route, the U-turn on the Jersey route. Need I go on ?
. I'd like to know how much the LGW handling operation costs to run compared to using a handling agent & as I type this I'm thinking the same for GCI too? Mark Darby was on local radio this morning blaming open skies for Aurigny's losses, one wonders how much longer he can pull the wool over the Governments eyes to hide his (IMO) bad management..? |
Originally Posted by Nuweiba
(Post 10821592)
You could blame open skies - of you were sitting on the Aurigny management side of the fence. But an independent view might raise the various management mistakes made in recent years. The Trislander replacement. The choice of outright purchase of the E195 ( when the more cost efficient CS100 was around the corner ). The purchase of the three new ATRs. The long lease of G-HUET. The setting up of an own handling unit at Gatwick. Pricing strategies. The Blue Island code-share fiasco. The LCY route. Other non-profitable and non-essential routes such as Leeds Bradford, Norwich etc. The competition on the Southampton route, the U-turn on the Jersey route. Need I go on ?
. I'd like to know how much the LGW handling operation costs to run compared to using a handling agent & as I type this I'm thinking the same for GCI too? Mark Darby was on local radio this morning blaming open skies for Aurigny's losses, one wonders how much longer he can pull the wool over the Governments eyes to hide his (IMO) bad management..? |
Blaming 'open skies' is a joke. Open skies arrived and rather than opening new routes Aurigny decided to go into head long competition on two existing routes operated by Blue Islands offering £19.99 fares. Insufficient traffic for two carriers. Sorry Aurigny but you only have yourself to blame for the losses. Also, the shareholders must share some of the blame for a total failure to provide any oversight into what Aurigny was up to. Time for change.
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I see they have applied (again) for 56 weekly slots at LHR for winter 2020/21
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