Starting when? This winter or next summer?

Ryanair strikes
 

Irish (based) pilots today. But only to/ from UK ???

Cabin crew from bases in Spain, Belgium, Italy tomorrow and Thursday I believe.

MOL threatened lay-offs and reported a major dip in profitability yesterday, apparently.


How is the strike panning out so far today ?

I see FR have published the actual gross salary levels these workers earn right now. To be honest their salaries are quite healthy. I can see this ending very badly for the striking employees. Stupidity and hardliner union officials will cost employees their livelihood. Utterly reckless stuff. Some employees don't see how fortune they are but I guess greed takes over.

Maybe it is about other issues than salary. To an employee salary is not top of the list in terms of importance, how they are treated is.

mik3bravo, what smells and sounds like poo usually is. The figures thrown are probably what a RYR Lifer (senior trainer/examiner) might be earning on a legacy contract if he/she worked every hour God sent probably further adjusted for maximum overtime/day off payments. Don't fall for it. Anyway, it's not about money but lifestyle. Ryanair pilots want the same money for better lifestyle, not more money per se!

Like any job in any industry. If you fancy better work live balance or pay then uproot and switch employer. You are not a tree, move!
Honestly, I don't get the entitlement attitudes of some employees. Take control of your personal situation and move employer if you're that unhappy. It's all very millenniumesque in mindset.

It's time to put Ryanair back on my list of organisations that I boycott. I want to travel with an organisation that values it's staff and customers in equal measure

The greatest asset to a company are staff who feel valued, and not just in cash terms. Whom the company recognises as assets, not costs.
And many employees find it difficult to move, since they have partners who also have careers, and they and their families are part of the communities in which they live.

I forgot to mention cabin crew based in Portugal.

Local media both in Catalonia and in Spain have been giving the strike a lot of coverage.

Catalan reports this morning spoke of last minute (sic) cancellations of flights to the Balearic Islands (which Ryanair had been ordered to maintain fully operational under Spanish labour laws which they had apparently agreed to do earlier) from both El Prat and Girona I seem to remember.

Elsewhere reports of last minute cancellations of one or more flights to Italy.

The disastrous record of Vueling at El Prat in the last 10 days [at least?] also got lots of air time

From a travelling public point of view I don't have any sympathy for the strikers. Radio interviews with Union Spokespersons that I've heard on RTE make then sound like an unprofessional bunch of whingers.

Why do you say that Sober Lark?

Many of us travelling and disrupted public are of the opinion that these striking pilots are well paid. Can you please post a copy of a payslip or a P60 (end of year certificate) showing this is not the case?

Don't Ryanair cut the UK & Eire capacity by 20% every winter anyway?

Well said, Sober Lark.

Most pilots ending up at ATPL levels, have pursued flying as a career which is often born from having years of passion to fly. So I certainly do not buy it when I hear union representatives sexing up their agenda to create an illusion of widespread discontent amongst the flight crews.

FR offer a pilot B737 type jet time and good as experience plus healthy salary levels too. Some go on to other airlines where they can get into the longhaul space flying heavies.

I think the unions in particular and their representatives need be extremely careful in how they push this because ultimately they are fighting a lost battle that has now actually placed pilots job security at definite risk right now. There will be redundancies and personal endebtiness defaulting on pilot tuition loans, mortgages, car loans and so on.

Plus the public opinion towards their cause is not on the unions side or the couple of pilots pushing for more love and touchie feelie workplace culture.

Some people are blind to seeing just how good they actually have it but there again, herd mentality and peer pressure can be cancerous.

There is always a batch of rookies eager to get into that right seat and with no interest in union activation, these rookies just want time on type and good pay and satisfying their passion for flight. Unions totally do not get that.

Lifestyle? Family life?
Have the employees taken up a contract of employment in full knowledge of the pros and cons? Assuming we are dealing with individuals who understand the concept of personal responsibility, then how is it now the employers responsibility for the employees acknowledgement.

There will be major redundancies in this stand-off, there will be no winners.

Move employer if you're that unhappy. It's really that simple.

Mik3bravo

You support all that is going wrong with capitalism at the moment. Ryanair makes about 1.4m euro annually in profits, no doubt top management make millions. Why should they not look after their employees? It is your type of thinking that has got many people thinking that capitalism is rotten and you can see the rise in that thinking in elements of the Labour party now. Workers in the UKhave not seen a rise in their real pay for 10 years now, that is not the story with top management who have filled their boots, usually at the expense of the ordinary worker. Ryanair has treated their staff like dirt for years, now they are getting back what they deserve as a company. It is time that profits and good working conditions were shared a bit more equally around all employees. Ryanair are just a bully of a company, eventually employees will tire of that treatment and stand up for themselves. Good for them. Decency goes a long way, some day you might be glad of someone showing you some.