Sober Lark
There are plenty of forums where you can read how badly Ryanair has treated it's Staff, it's not only about pay to the average outsider (that works for an Airline) but more about recognition and respect. Sadly its been missing for many years.
Ryanair are good at spinning. They will tell you Pilots only work an average of 23 hours a week - shock horror you'll say. That's 23 flight hours so doesn't include the time to report for duty, the turn round time and to go off duty so more like 55 hours a week.
They will tell you that they stop flying every Christmas day so their Staff can be at home. They won't tell you the main reason is their Cabin Crew are paid ****e so cannot afford a car and guess what the bus services don't run on Christmas day.

I work about 50+ hours a week too, any overtime unpaid. Thats expected at a certain salary level and not anywhere near a pilots salary. A lot of people do. I also often work Christmas, I've no choice in that, but it rotates year on year. Don't get me wrong, I know Ryanair are not perfect by any stretch, I know that from friends who work for them, but the narrative portrayed by unions is always ott. Same for Irish teachers as one example, the train drivers, the bus drivers, the Luas drivers.

The sympathy from the general public has waned massively in recent years because people are sick of listening to it and being inconvenienced by unions looking for more and more....when comparitively their members are not doing too bad at all

So what you are saying is that Ryanair are paying the people less than 10 years ago in UK................. so what was Ryanair paying then.

As for claiming no real pay rise..................... Even Minimumwage has gone up by 42% V Inflation by 32%.

All I can say is that I was glad to be in a strong union with some of the governor's I worked for. As for one two O'Leary I I would probably have lasted five minutes at the most. I would hazard a guess that some on hear who blame everything on unions probably all so-called Thatcher's children. As for working unpaid overtime (unless you are a manager) you realise you are doing charity work for your employer.

FR reaping what they’ve sown. Good luck to the DUB crews affected by today’s threat in finding jobs with more progressive airlines soon.

I'm with Ryanair on this stance. No passengers want to see a service end up being so unionised like in France where your flight might be running if someone isn't on strike, where it might get off the ground if ATC isn't on strike, where you might make the flight if the trains are not on strike...

Ryanair only recognised unions 7 months ago so give them a chance. In passing I note much of Forsa's own website is still 'under construction' - that's really leading by example.

Unfortunately it's not interesting to watch how Unions destroy their own.

There are plenty of other industries where leading companies push for growth, profits, stock market favourable sentiment and stock value, and shareholder& investor returns, and many have these tensions between employees and the company.

This is standard in many industries and just because Ryanair is so high profile doesn't mean they are any worse or better than other companies, It just means they are more so in the public eye.

Ryanair are a massive Irish Inc. success story who have created '000 of jobs and spin--off employment to the real economy both in Ireland and the UK and across other European regions.

Employees wilfully and in full knowledge and complete transparency accepted job offers from Ryanair under employment contract T&C's which are transparent.

Now it seems some employees want to move the goal posts and see they can alter their T&C's without realising for every action, there will be an equal and opposite reaction.

The self entitlement attitudes of some employees is tedious and unacceptable in a modern buoyant economy. These employees are paid well for an honest days work, they have benefits too. But now it seems they want to bite the hand that feeds them.
Moronic attitudes and reckless clueless union officials will destroy economic prosperity of the individuals they allegedly represent.

Unions attempting to take on a massively successful powerhouse is frankly dumb ass granstanding. The exchequer returns will ultimately take a hit due to lost tourism and reduced travelling passenger numbers. Ultimately, employees are putting their own job security at significantly high risk now.

None of these clowns see the macro impacts - all in it for themsrlves and fcuk the rest of society and the European travelling citizens.

Inkjet, reasonable reply thank you. My guess is that Ryanair will invest in workers and like Delta they will become one of the least unionised airlines in the world. But at present I feel a Union that can't even build their own web site in 6 months is demanding too much from a company that only recognised unions 7 months ago.

This was also 100% true of sending we'ans up chimneys.

Well over many years I've had cancellations with Lufthansa, I have never been left alone, always re-routed even on different alliances etc. If necessary good quality hotel plus meal and vouchers and transfers, and friendly ground staff too.

Compared to a low cost airline ticket price, I'd say you paid a more expensive ticket price with Luftansa for the chance one day you need a hotel bed and hot meal.

You are not comparing like with like.

People buy a cheap low cost airline ticket for £19 or something ridiculously cheap and then expect Emirates and Marriot hotel services when it goes wrong.

People need to wake up. You know what you're getting into when you buy a low cost ticket. Personally I would never use any low cost airline unless as last resort. I certainly have never and will never use any of them for holiday travels especially if you are travelling with children, yet there are people out there who do it and know full well the chances they take but are thrilled to book their Sun holiday family flights for as cheap as chips but go nuts when it goes wrong.

You get what you pay for and if you want better services then pay for it with other carriers.

Honestly I can't get my head around why people can't figure out these basics at all!

Likes of Ryanair are ok if you are travelling alone or with a partner, got no children or toddlers travelling, and cabin bag luggage only. Beyond that, it's Russian Roulette I'm afraid and people need to understand that.

As for the strikers - they've got an ok job, they want more, more isn't available. So the choice is simple transactional. You want more then go elsewhere to an employer who provides more but stop screwing up the European holiday makers - It's quite disgusting self centered behaviour by these striking workers and their militant unions.

As I understand it, they don't want more money. They just want to be treated as partners in the business, as human beings, rather than as cogs in a machine.

I get that but it ain't going to happen. They need to get over it and move on. Find alternative employment elsewhere where they feel more valued or loved or whatever soft touchie feelie bs these people want to help them feel actualized.