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BHX5DME 10th Jan 2018 16:47


Originally Posted by WHBM (Post 10016192)
The load factor can't keep going up for ever.

Based on my flights with them, I find the overall 95% figure surprising. Are they basing it on tickets sold and paid for rather than actual pax boarded ?


Seats sold and why not ?
If people don't show they don't care money is in the bank and seat sold.

1sky 10th Jan 2018 17:35

Yes Ryanair reports on tickets sold.

I wonder if anyone is ready for the chaos with the luggage changes on 15 January.

I wonder how gate decking 100+ wheelies on each flight will speed things up. If anything, it will just slow everything down for those who actually pay for luggage.

Ryanair PR repeatedly blames people for abusing the generous luggage policy. The real problem (if there is actually any), it is the airline failing to get handlers to enforce the policy.

Stanstedeye 10th Jan 2018 18:25

Baggage problem
 
If you can't beat them, join them, that is JET2, for they solved it.

virginblue 10th Jan 2018 20:17

Not sure what the point of reporting seats sold rather than bums on seats is particularly in Ryanair's case. Of course it makes for nice PR spin, but as Ryanair is much more dependent on ancillary revenues than others, for them bums on seats is what counts (I suppose that a lot of the no-shows, just like me, are folks who simply buy very cheap tickets without being absolutely committed to travel and thus will not be spending money on extras in advance).

davidjohnson6 10th Jan 2018 22:19

If a seat is sold but the passenger does not show up, then all the airport fees and Govt taxes go straight to Ryanair. Yes, you might have a legal option to reclaim the tax but Ryanair's admin fee and general consumer apathy kill off that option in virtually all cases.
The result is that the additional revenue can quite often more than cover the average ancillary revenue

inOban 10th Jan 2018 22:46

But of course if you've paid less than the tax for your ticket... ( And there's a lot of £9.99 fares around)

Harry Wayfarers 11th Jan 2018 05:04

Never mind the cost of hanging on the telephone for hours waiting for the bar stewards to answer.

And any no-show saves circa 3% fuel of body/baggage weight per flight hour.

Andy_S 11th Jan 2018 08:38


Originally Posted by 1sky (Post 10016243)
Ryanair PR repeatedly blames people for abusing the generous luggage policy.

Didn’t Ryanair used to actively encourage passengers to only travel with hand baggage?

Plane.Silly 11th Jan 2018 09:04

That was before they started being 'nice' and 'Always Getting Better'.
Still makes me laugh how they feel they're outdone by their own policy and how it's taken so long for them to implement a new one

NorthEasterner 12th Jan 2018 19:34

Israel Hand Baggage Policy
 
I've noticed on the hand baggage section for Israel flights (to/from)

Flights to/from Israel

1 small bag on board (35cm x 20cm x 20cm) regardless of whether the user has ‘Priority & 2 Cabin Bags’ or not.

What is the reasoning to why customers who have 2 cabin bag allowance not permitted to have their larger bag on board?

Thanks

davidjohnson6 12th Jan 2018 20:03

NorthEasterner - have you ever been through security at an Israeli airport when you're profile sounds a bit unusual ?

brian_dromey 12th Jan 2018 20:29


Originally Posted by inOban (Post 10016474)
But of course if you've paid less than the tax for your ticket... ( And there's a lot of £9.99 fares around)

But Ryanair won't pay any "tax" on a passenger who doesn't show up. APD, for example, is only collected once an occupied seat flies. In the case of a 9.99 no-show FR gets 9.79 (lets assume that the cost of processing a ticket and payment is around 2%).

NorthEasterner 12th Jan 2018 20:43


Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 (Post 10018104)
NorthEasterner - have you ever been through security at an Israeli airport when you're profile sounds a bit unusual ?

Are you for real? Answering my question with a question does not help. And what has my profile got to do with anything? 🙄

SWBKCB 13th Jan 2018 06:05


And any no-show saves circa 3% fuel of body/baggage weight per flight hour.
I'm not very good at hard sums, but surely this can't be right?

brian_dromey 13th Jan 2018 09:45

NorthEasterner

I think what the poster was trying to say is that security screening at TLV is unlike anything anywhere else. There is racial profiling, intensive body and baggage screening. I believe the minimum turn time at TLV is 75 minutes due to aircraft searches.

Although clumsily worded I believe that the poster was using the collective your, rather than the individual.

paully 13th Jan 2018 15:24

But without doubt, the gold standard, worldwide for Airport Security :D


In the meantime we have Manchester :ugh:

OzzyOzBorn 13th Jan 2018 18:32

I've received similar notices from Ryanair covering my forthcoming flights with them to Rome and Madrid whilst visiting Europe. They're not limited to Israel flights. Looks like the hand-luggage changes apply across the network.

crewmeal 15th Jan 2018 05:20

Looks like all FR will now charge for ALL hand baggage in the cabin across the board.

https://news.sky.com/story/ryanair-c...elays-11207945

1sky 15th Jan 2018 06:02

That’s not what the article says at all.

crewmeal 15th Jan 2018 06:17

Sorry my mistake but this article makes it clearer.

Ryanair cuts carry-on luggage allowance ? unless you pay £10

EGAC is Better 15th Jan 2018 19:15

I’ve got another complaint which has been lodged directly with Ryanair.

I checked in to find that my seats in 2A&B no longer come with priority boarding included, as was the case when those seats were booked and paid for some months ago. So now we face the prospect of having to wait at the baggage reclaim for carry on’s therefore defeating the precise reason for paying that extra £58 (return) for those seats in the first place ie. speedy exit from both the aircraft and the airport.

Ryanair are now back on my “only if absolutely no other alternative is available” list.

RAT 5 16th Jan 2018 05:58

I checked in to find that my seats in 2A&B no longer come with priority boarding included, as was the case when those seats were booked and paid for some months ago

Are you suggesting there was a detrimental change to the contract conditions without you being aware? Does that allow you to make a claim on those grounds?

Plane.Silly 16th Jan 2018 07:23

Reported on Reuters that RYanair are looking to buy certain assets from Niki.
Slots certainly spring to mind, but nothing else?

EGAC is Better 16th Jan 2018 09:18

RAT 5

It seems that way and is theme of my complaint. I await their response with very limited hope that they even give a toss.

NorthEasterner 16th Jan 2018 12:36

No seats up front included priority boarding. Only what they call 'quick/rapid' Exit upon disembarking. I think a while ago Emergency Exit row seats in 16 & 17 had priority boarding. I think this was dropped in favour for the new Plus bundles they have which give you free standard seat selection and priority boarding as well as hold baggage. Where the Flexi package gives you premium seat selection and ticket flexibility as well as fast track.

flyingtincan 16th Jan 2018 14:52

From the Ryanair web site - with the Standard fare package, seat selection, priority boarding including 2 bags, and FastTrack (through security at the airport) are all separate extras. Paying extra for one does not get you another - in the Standard fare package.

buzz_hornet 16th Jan 2018 15:09

Flew with them yesterday , no problem at all, they take your hand luggage off you before you board plane and you get it at other side .. free of charge

EGAC is Better 16th Jan 2018 18:30

NorthEasterner

Happy to show you many boarding passes from this summer which will clearly show that I got priority boarding with paid for seats in the first 5 rows of the aircraft.

EGAC is Better 16th Jan 2018 21:52

flyingtincan

Agreed, that’s what the website says now. That is not in line with the service I paid in October to receive (based on previous experinces) though. On principle, that’s what I’m a bit annoyed about.

Anyway, I’ve complained, they will tell me they don’t care (in some form of words) and I’ll not book with them for another 10 years (as happened until 2017) unless they are the only way to get in reasonable time to somewhere I need to be. I’m also under no illusions they won’t care if I never fly with them again because they’ll just fill that seat with someone else willing to tolerate their sh**e for a cheap fare. Chapter closed. Time to move on :)

1sky 17th Jan 2018 06:49

Apparently a big announcement is planned in Paris today.

CCFAIRPORT 17th Jan 2018 09:19

yes today at 1330 LT

http://www.linfodurable.fr/agenda-de...omiques-j...Il y a 5 heures - (+) 13H30 - PARIS - Conférence de presse Ryanair, en présence de David O'Brien, Directeur Commercial - Hôtel Le Six, 14 rue Stanislas 75006 Paris. 17H00 - PARIS - Commission d'enquête chargée d'examiner les décisions de l'Etat en matière de politique industrielle, au regard des fusions ...

HH6702 17th Jan 2018 11:16

Will it be CDG or orly

1sky 17th Jan 2018 12:19

No big news. Main points:
- Negotiations ongoing with unions in France.
- Planning to open French bases in the future.

Ryanair also picked the wrong day for a press conference in France. Any transport journalist would be busy reporting on the Notre-Dame-des-Landes developments.

Lon12 17th Jan 2018 14:18

10 new routes from France.

– 4 from Paris Bva to Bratislava (2 x wkly), Malta (2), Prague (3) & Thessaloniki (2)

– 3 from Marseille to Bucharest (2 wkly), Budapest (2) & Faro (2)

– 2 from Nantes to London Stansted (4 wkly) & Seville (2)

– 1 from Bordeaux to Valencia (2 wkly)

https://corporate.ryanair.com/news/ryanair-announces-10-new-french-winter-2018-routes-plans-french-bases/

PPRuNeUser0176 18th Jan 2018 22:46

They have back tracked

https://www.thejc.com/news/israel/ry...harge-1.456924

BFS Dude 23rd Jan 2018 15:14

Anyone heard about a new route between Belfast and Manchester?

LAX_LHR 23rd Jan 2018 15:18

1 daily from March 25th

BFS Dude 23rd Jan 2018 15:23

When is it due to be announced.

LAX_LHR 23rd Jan 2018 15:24

I’m not sure. There are several MAN routes to be announced so could be in that group, or as the aircraft is Belfast based, could be announced at the Belfast end at any time.

BFS Dude 23rd Jan 2018 15:32

Thanks LAX_LHR


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