It will be interesting to see if Wizz expand in GLA.
Can I remind everyone that the SNP don't have a majority. They run coalition with the Greens, so no chance of APD reduction. Quite apart from the loss of revenue to fund public services. |
It's strange. I have used Ryanair on various routes over the years. I think all were heavily loaded, if not all seats taken, and certainly not at their supposed bargain basement fares.
Yet, with the singular exception of London Stansted to Dublin (whose frequency itself is well down on past years) all of these routes I took have gone. Extraordinary. Meanwhile pretty much all the legacy routes I have taken over time carry on, often with improved frequencies. You certainly could not plan business branch foreign offices or a holiday home on the basis of Ryanair routes. The selection includes : Prestwick to Stansted Stansted to Tampere, Finland Stansted to Kos, Greece |
Originally Posted by inOban
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It will be interesting to see if Wizz expand in GLA.
Can I remind everyone that the SNP don't have a majority. They run coalition with the Greens, so no chance of APD reduction. Quite apart from the loss of revenue to fund public services. |
Originally Posted by mwm991
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There has to be a hint of irony in the Greens putting their foot down on APD, yet the SNP project of Prestwick losing its only daily route......
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This may actually help Glasgow’s new Lufthansa routes less pressure from Ryanair on fares. It will also relieve some of the pressure Ryanair placed on Jet2.com, TUI and Thomas Cook to the sun resorts. I think Edinburgh’s infrastructure will really struggle soon (if it’s not now), i’ve Always felt claustrophobic when i’m Working there, it always seems just on the edge of chaos.
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I'm not sure an airline pulling out can ever be perceived as "good news".
That said whilst appreciating there were lots of away based frames the singular aircraft at GLA must be being flogged to death! |
Navpi, it’s obviously not good news but I know Ryanair have hit yields on what was Glasgow’s main market the IT sector. Also with rock bottom fares on FRA route gone hopefully will help LH, I think AGS really have to find a way to help improve airlines yields at GLA. FR and GLA have always had a strange relationship.
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Maybe Scotland needs one world class airport in the central belt ?
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Originally Posted by GLAEDI
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This may actually help Glasgow’s new Lufthansa routes less pressure from Ryanair on fares. It will also relieve some of the pressure Ryanair placed on Jet2.com, TUI and Thomas Cook to the sun resorts. I think Edinburgh’s infrastructure will really struggle soon (if it’s not now), i’ve Always felt claustrophobic when i’m Working there, it always seems just on the edge of chaos.
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As GLA was a smaller base than EDI, would it make crewing easier being consolidated into two rather than three airports?
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If it's been posted earlier then I apologise, but how many aircraft were GLA based?
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Glasgow Prestwick seems to remain open too.
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Just the one, the second was lost when GLA-STN was dropped due to the crewing balls up.
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Odd the blame APD for closing Galsgow but they are building up EDI....
methinks the airport charges are the issue....... |
CLose Glasgow but Expand EDI??
Nothing to with APD .................... |
Would love to know what FR pay at EDI/GLA/PIK. Anyone any idea?
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For once i agree with Ryanair .The APD tax is not doing airlines any favours.
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I'm not sure an airline pulling out can ever be perceived as "good news". However, does EDI not have APD just the same as GLA? And will EDI not be similarly affected by Brexit as GLA? If the answer to those questions is YES, and I believe that it is, then this is Valdermort Airlines making excuses for making cuts rather than being honest. |
Originally Posted by Planespeaking
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If it's been posted earlier then I apologise, but how many aircraft were GLA based?
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"O'Leary Must Go!"
Ryanair pilot group calls for Michael O'Leary to step down ...but what it's got to do with him, I don't know. |
" The weaker Scottish economy is even weaker in Glasgow "
but not Edinburgh with the Holyrood echo chamber and all to bhoy it up.... |
Looks like Jet 2 are more in tune with Glaswegian's requirments. Their Edinburgh destinations are much the same, holiday routes.
Ryanair have a high load of City routes from both whose users are more likely to consolidate into using EDI. Ryanair's Prestwick destinations are more holiday orientated as well so just more available seats on the designated resort's arrival day. |
Originally Posted by willy wombat
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Would love to know what FR pay at EDI/GLA/PIK. Anyone any idea?
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Trapani base to be closed by summer - just 4 routes left
https://corporate.ryanair.com/news/l...018/?market=it |
Ryanair's routes will be carrying more inbound tourists than Jet2's and, no offence to Glasgow, they're more likely to be wanting to go to Edinburgh...
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It will be interesting to see the response of Easyjet on the City routes on which they will be competing, such as Hamburg, Berlin and Lisbon.
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Rob Royston
What is meant by 'the designated resort's arrival day'? |
I believe that for some destinations there is a single day on which most holiday properties change over. For many years all flights to Lanzarote were on a Thursday, for example.
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iggie
Traditionally package holiday destinations would receive flights from particular countries or operators on the same day. It meant one big changeover which made selling one and two week stays easier, and meant reps and coaches were in place to ferry to and from the airport. You still see it today to a lesser extent. |
I suspect it's utter nonsense to say FR removal from FRA route will benefit LH. Totally different market and time will tell if LH remain themselves. History tends to say otherwise. RYR have had issues with GLA previous and are using this "reason" as a scapegoat I would suggest.
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Originally Posted by Navpi
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Maybe Scotland needs one world class airport in the central belt ?
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Well apparently Glasgow and Edinburgh will eventually merge to become one 'supercity'. Perhaps then we would see a new airport. https://www.scotsman.com/news/glasgo...ades-1-4648092
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No, if the Scottish Government has its way you will still have two airports, they will just be Edinburgh East and Edinburgh West (and maybe Prestwick will become Edinburgh South).
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Precisely, maybe the SG can build a mock-up castle on the Campsies and have a zoo full of pandas next to the old India of Inchinnan building and we can have inbound tourism too !
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Originally Posted by Navpi
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Maybe Scotland needs one world class airport in the central belt ?
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Not necessarily. If one is smart with the procurement such s plan could be very lucrative. I don't see also too many negatives at Amsterdam nor Brussels either... particularly when you considerat Brussels over the years they have steadily regrouped.
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The British concept of “competition” half works in my view, compare with AENA in Spain. The locos remain price competitve in market and the public facilities are decent. Not so “pint in a half pint” that is LGW/STN/LTN or MAN/LPL/LBA.
We have no strategy and it’s left to the open market. |
New base planned in Tallinn with new routes to Edinburgh, Malta and Paphos
https://www.err.ee/686457/ryanair-av...kolm-uut-liini |
I really don't understand them. Their history in Tallinn is... confusing.
Nordica couldn't make Edinburgh work, so it'll be interesting to see if Ryanair can this time around. |
Originally Posted by 01475
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I really don't understand them. Their history in Tallinn is... confusing.
Nordica couldn't make Edinburgh work, so it'll be interesting to see if Ryanair can this time around. |
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