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Originally Posted by Navpi
(Post 10747362)
Things in my view will not be the same until we have a vaccine and people are 100% confident to fly knowing they are not going to end up up on a ventilator within 3 days of arriving at their destination. That is now years away.
There is then the economic aspect which is absolutely dire. If you take Dubai as an example yes there will be some travel but this will surely be discretionary for people having no option but to travel for work or possibly to sort out personnel affairs. IMO we are facing an economic earthquake. Assuming you still have a job or indeed your business hasnt gone bust why on earth would you then take a chance of sitting in a metal tube with 500 other passenger in close proximity with a high likelihood that at least a dozen have got Covid that will then be circulated via the air con system ? This isnt going away. The measures we have in place are simply to ensure the NHS isnt swamped with patients this virus will be doing the rounds for months. JET2 TUI and RYR will "apparently" restart in June. Where on earth are they going to fly to Spain , Italy! SERIOUSLY ? Emirates starting again on 1st May to me is pure pie in the sky, perhaps a better chance of the leisure carries restarting mid June. We are driving on holiday in June, or at least hoping to, but for as long as the French won't allow Joe public to enter the country unless returning home or working in essential services we have two hopes - Bob Hope and no hope!! |
Originally Posted by ATNotts
(Post 10747425)
The data suggests that many European countries are getting the thing under control, bad news is that so far as I can see the UK is still far from out of the woods, so much as Brits may want to travel again, and resort destinations open up gradually to foreign tourists, there may be the very real prospect that those destinations will not be open to Brits because of where the UK is with regard to controlling the outbreak.
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If you compare the UK to Spain and Italy then they both saw the curve starting to flatten between 2 and 3 weeks in lockdown. However the lockdown regulation in the UK are less stringent then in both those countries, which will have an impact.
My reply to ATNotts was based on his assumption that we are far from out of the woods yet. With only barely three weeks in lockdown it is difficult to draw a conclusion if cases will start to fall in the next couple of days. Just to add that I only fly airplanes for a living so far from an expert on Covid-19! |
My thoughts are basically the same as Navpi's. The virus will be around for quite sometime yet. When people eventually begin to travel it will initially be to domestic destinations, i.e. not too far from home just in case! Hotels and restaurants will slowly begin to trade again but catering mainly to a domestic market. The airlines, I fear, may have to wait a great deal longer.
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Originally Posted by spacedog
(Post 10746877)
Very lucky to get 1 flight a day by 1st May.
Firstly we will still be under lockdown. The government advice on travel is no no no. When the lockdown is lifted EK will resume services to the main hubs firstly LHR then Man followed by one of the two in Scotland. Remember it takes a lot of people to fill a A380 or 777-300. Emirates would rather fly 3 full 380 into LHR than 5 or 6 1/4 full aircraft to the regions. |
Originally Posted by jon01
(Post 10750579)
Emirates restart now put back to 2nd June
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I doubt EK or QR will be back at BHX for the foreseeable future, if at all. They rely on filling their planes with connecting pax. With borders all over the world closed or at best restricted for a long time to come, I just don't think they'll be able to fill a 380 or 777. Not saying nobody will be flying over the summer but there will be nowhere near the numbers to make it economical from anywhere except London.
Nobody can predict what is going to happen but if I was forced to make a prediction for BHX, I think the best we can hope for (making major assumptions that the virus has peaked and travel is permitted into Europe without too many restrictions and there is no second wave of infection here or abroad) is a small Jet2 programme, limited EI, FR and Wizz, limited LH/KL/AF and some domestics if LM, GR etc survive, others like LX, SK, may come back 2021. If the virus cannot be bought under better control over the next month or two, maybe no flying at all from BHX and the vast majority of UK airports until the autumn? |
Originally Posted by GayFriendly
(Post 10751046)
I doubt EK or QR will be back at BHX for the foreseeable future, if at all. They rely on filling their planes with connecting pax. With borders all over the world closed or at best restricted for a long time to come, I just don't think they'll be able to fill a 380 or 777. Not saying nobody will be flying over the summer but there will be nowhere near the numbers to make it economical from anywhere except London.
Nobody can predict what is going to happen but if I was forced to make a prediction for BHX, I think the best we can hope for (making major assumptions that the virus has peaked and travel is permitted into Europe without too many restrictions and there is no second wave of infection here or abroad) is a small Jet2 programme, limited EI, FR and Wizz, limited LH/KL/AF and some domestics if LM, GR etc survive, others like LX, SK, may come back 2021. If the virus cannot be bought under better control over the next month or two, maybe no flying at all from BHX and the vast majority of UK airports until the autumn? we shall see |
People talk about the virus being brought under control. Just explain to me how? Don't kid yourselves, it will be around for a long time yet. If people start to travel again before there's either an effective vaccine, or medication to combat the virus if you catch it, it will take no time at all for a second wave to strike.
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EK now saying daily from 1 May with 380 and second flight a month later we shall see I agree with GayFriendly, I can't see the the airport picking up anytime soon. Regarding EK I feel LHR will have the majority of flights with MAN being next. Remembering the last thing of folk's minds is travel. Many are furloughed or even worse will lose their jobs. This may even have an effect on Christmas travel. |
Originally Posted by crewmeal
(Post 10751588)
This may even have an effect on Christmas travel.
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Did you know that vaccines for existing flus only work for an average of 44% of those who take it? It's more effective for the young (but still only about 65%) and less effective for the elderly (about 16%). Interesting that.
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Originally Posted by Pistonprop
(Post 10752464)
Did you know that vaccines for existing flus only work for an average of 44% of those who take it? It's more effective for the young (but still only about 65%) and less effective for the elderly (about 16%). Interesting that.
Whatever it's all but inevitable that life will change medium to long term, and an indication of that, for the commercial aviation industry, is the forecast that those areas of the country, such as Crawlry that are very dependent upon commercial aviation will suffer economically worse than many other areas. |
Originally Posted by ATNotts
(Post 10752867)
It's well known that as the seasonal flu virus mutates constantly the annual vaccine is a "best guess" for the upcoming winter based upon the experience of the southern hemisphere winter, and i guess vice versa. Covid-19 may, or may not behave in the same way. ...
I'm just wondering if it's going to just kill off those who are most susceptible to the infection ... yet another little evolutionary step. |
The three variants are very similar
Just two mutations separate A and B, and one more to C, which reached Europe via Singapore. It seems more stable than flu and I'm sure that the scientists will create a vaccine which blocks all them. |
easyJet
Additional flights from September 2020.
Edinburgh & Glasgow increase to 3 daily (except Saturday 2) - 20 flights per week. Belfast International increases to Sunday 4, Monday 4, Tuesday 3, Wednesday 4, Thursday 4, Friday 5, Saturday 3 - 27 flights per week. Further increases for the winter, from the 25 October, to Belfast International: Sunday remains 4, Monday increases to 6, Tuesday increases to 4, Wednesday increases to 5, Thursday remains 4, Friday increases to 6, Saturday remains 3 - 32 flights per week. All away based aircraft! |
BHXBOY,
great news about easyJet - Aside from Naples, Do you know of any other proposed new routes into BHX from easyJet ? Thank you |
ib26uk,
I have no knowledge of any new easyJet routes - like many, I live in hope and wait! |
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