Emirates back to daily from BHX from 28th November

Will the new Wizz base at Manchester impact Birmingham traffic. Interesting that Wizz have seen an opportunity and gone straight to a mainline base rather than away based units.

Now I may turn out to be wrong, but given that Covid-19 isn't going anywhere for the time being, and even the most optimistic don't believe there will be mass vaccination before Q4/2021, I would suggest that all there new based units promised by Ryanair and new bases by Aer Lingus and Wizz could just turn out to be so much thin air.

However Wizz UK clearly sees an opportunity, and how it plays out, and which routes they eventually choose to operate will depend upon how much of an impact their "base" has on BHX. It's all pure conjecture at the moment, and these slot allocations / applications pure works of fiction.

May not turn out quite as hoped but I think airlines want to be in a position to get started and get some cash flow before others jump in.

I think that's very true, especially at airports which may be tight on terminal and / or runway slots.

Did I miss something, new Manchester base?

Iwak
 

I hear summer 21 slot allocations are out anyone picking up the knock route??
This route route has been previously operated by Aer Lingus , my Travel lite, BMI baby , Aer Lingus Regional and more recently Flybe until their demise.

Whether these slot applications, new FR routes and new EI and Wizz bases ever materialize at MAN remains a point of conjecture .

What isn't a point of conjecture is that said airlines have not (to our knowledge) applied for slots or to set up new bases at BHX.

Whatever happens with the pandemic and how it affects aviation over the next 12-24 months, it's clear that one thing hasn't changed and that is that airlines see far better returns and prospects to grow at MAN than at BHX. In the potentially lean times ahead for airlines, revenue and growth prospects surely must be of paramount importance.

I have read that (allegedly) MAN have offered both FR and EZY exclusive use of T1 and no landing fees for 4 years so perhaps both airlines declarations to greatly increase base units and routes is not such pie in the sky.

I think the best BHX can hope for is continued Jet2 loyalty with a small FR base and the hopeful return of EZY to EDI and GLA.

On the bright side, we do have EK going daily again and of course new routes starting fingers crossed from.Wizz. - you have to keep that glass half full!

Yes 4 X 321 base - slots are in but far from confirmed yet.

1 x A333 and 3 x 321.

A333? Are they planning to acquire some of those prior to S21?

I have read that they’ve applied for 4 x A321 bases at EDI and MAN.

Nothing planned for EDI and the A333 would be sourced from within the fleet, likely to be mix of A332/333 to suite demand if everything comes to fruition.

Getting mixed up with Wizz and Aer Lingus

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Definitely some cross talk here. New EI to base 3 A321 and an A333 at MAN plus Wizz looking to have 4 x A320/321 there as well.
Of course this all has nothing to do with BHX!!

Just to reaffirm yes it is a new MAN base, not just 4 routes.

Manchester is not particularly well served to Eastern Europe. On that basis there may well be some duplication of routes which operate out of BHX. ( and indeed liverpool) as Wizz look to aggressively exploit that market.

With major expansion also about to take place with EASYJET at Bristol, BHX may find itself struggling to rebuild back to 12m, although of course all airports are going to have a gargantuan task.

With market share remaining fragile for 2 +3 years those larger airports will be flexing their muscle to capture what limited traffic there is.

easyjet major expansion - is this something I’m not aware of ?

Think it should be Jet2 - of the other things being discussed (Wizz, AerLingus, etc), this is the only expansion that has been formally announced. The rest is based on slot allocations, which may or may not be taken up.

Why are we talking about Manchester and Bristol on the Birmingham thread ????

To be fair, I think what's happening, or potentially planned, at competitor airports is a legitimate issue for debate.
I've done this myself on Manchester threads on this and other forums. It's particularly relevant where catchment areas overlap. However, in this instance, there were extra posts because of confusion between slot applications for EI and Wizz at MAN.

If a catchment area overlaps and might impact a particular airport I would have thought it reasonable?

No different to LGW and LHR.