As a percentage of total business Monarch formed a much smaller slice of Manchester's business than they did at BHX, so there was far less a shortfall to pick up; and Manchester is a bigger, more powerful player. And percentages can be misleading. You could earn £100,000- and take a 3% pay cut. You'd be down £3,000. I could earn £10,000 and take a 3% pay cut and only lose £300. I seem to have come out better, losing far less, but I had less to lose but you're still better off!!! That's statistics for you.

To put Petes message in perspective, we can look at the numbers for the summer 2017 season for perspective.

• At BHX, in Summer 2017, Monarch provided 1,525,896 seats out of the 11,414,655 seats available. This results in a 13.7% share of the seats which BHX will loose in Summer 2018.
• At MAN, in Summer 2017, Monarch provided 1,484,440 seats out of the 23,358,022 seats available. This results in a 6.4% share of the seats which MAN will loose in Summer 2018.

In short, BHX will have lost 13.7% of its summer passengers with the collapse of Monarch, whilst MAN will only have lost 6.4% its passengers.

if BHX is only down -3% and MAN is up only +3%, in the scenario that no longer consider Monarch, then BHX will have actually have grown +10.7% and MAN will have actually have grown +9.4%. Based on this very simple scenario (which is of course a lot more complex than just monarch) it shows that both airports have recovered to a similar scale following the loss of Monarch....

Primera
 

According to the STN thread, Primera are using the National 757 to launch BHX-EWR from 18th May until 29th July. It will only operate 6 x weekly until launch of YYZ when both services will be 3 x weekly. From 30th July I assume the A321 takes over as the 4 x EWR and 3 x YYZ weekly schedule seemingly starts. A's this is the aircraft that has gone tech so often at STN this does not bode well, although it looks like they've allowed a day in the week non op to help catch up with potential delays. As you can imagine STN posters are pleased to be rid of this unreliable beast.

The only was is up for Primera after such an abysmal start?

Daz, let's hope that's one rumour that does come true! Here's hoping!

Air India
 

Not surprising given that high summer is the monsoon season.

So days with the ATQ AI118, is it going double daily like the Saturday rotations?

The latest rumour is 10pw
Delhi daily
Amritsar 3 pw with Tue & Thu added from June

Primera
 

The plot thickens,

A Primera flight arrived today in the guise of a Cello B733 empty from Dublin which is believed to be operating the Tuesday Malaga.

Tomorrow which is the start of the base is due to be operated by a Primera B738 which is due in the morning. The aircraft is currently flying Zagreb - KEF.

Tuesday - Thursday & Saturday Palma remains non-ops as does the Wednesday, Thursday & Saturday Malaga.

Still the 757 on Newark Friday?

Pete

Primera update

B738 YL-PSH is operating Monday's flights

B733 G-MISG is operating Tuesday's flights

B733 = 148 seats, vs a B738 = 189 seats.
Me thinks the loads for Primera as a whole might not be as high as they'd like?

Looks like Primera have cut back on flights before they've even started. Perhaps the public have other ideas about travelling to the States.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...-may-aug-2018/

Apart from the delayed Stansted Toronto start the rest is as previously reported on the forums.

More to do with aircraft that the travelling public.

Centre cities

Primera
 

Well what a start - BHX -EWR delayed until 20.15 at the moment.

There were reports of issues yesterday after it arrived from the US yesterday.

I assume this airline hasn't any money to use a reliable airline or perhaps find one with available aircraft but in the mean-time OY-PAA is over the Atlantic on Stansted - Boston 15 minutes late and CS-TKR Euroatlantic 763 has departed CDG just 24 minutes behind departure time.

Just what BHX needs after suffering many transatlantic setbacks, an airline that starts on the back-foot although I realise the engine manufacturer is mainly to blame.

On a positive note Primera operated both the Malaga and Palma with their own aircraft. Shame the 738 could not have been used via KEF but I suppose they are not ETOPS.

BA are back in the early hours 03.30 from Palma then operates Florence, Palma and Malaga tomorrow.

Flybe start Verona tomorrow for TUI and EFL as per 2017.

TUI now 8 based. Next up Jet2 with aircraft 8 in a few days.

Pete

Quelle suprise!!! This is not what BHX want or deserve. You would have thought that Primera would have pulled out all the stops to see the first flight depart on time and charter a decent carrier. So we have this outfit until the end of July? I hope they come up with a plan C during this period.

When customers find that this carrier is so unreliable then I wouldn't be surprised to see further cuts.

Primera
 

Daz

Confirmed it is National and it is the same one, Delayed now until at least 22.30.

Shame they couldn't use the Virgin A332 that has just landed for MAEL :oh: now there is an excellent aircraft for transatlantic ;)

Pete

Airborne around 4 1/2 hours late

Maybe they aren't the ones paying for them so don't have a choice ?