Originally Posted by daz211
(Post 10037539)
I wouldn’t say they have hung Birmingham out to dry.
If you look at the bigger picture and from a business point of view London and Paris would have a better chance than Birmingham for passengers booking return flights from Newyork Boston and Toronto and if we are all totally honest and unbiased we would all agree London and Paris would and should be seen as having a better chance of serving over Birmingham. I'm sure Skip could provide some analysis of how these things work but the whole premise just seems odd. They must surely have had some data to support BOS? And what of Newark starting daily but then reverting to 4 per week. Lo Cos are notorious for bending to the best market conditions but these acute changes just seems a wee bit haphazard. |
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Originally Posted by eggc
(Post 10037787)
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Well pardon me for not spotting it :(
Mixed opinion here, the article wont inspire some, but on the other hand some positives reported on remaining routes. I dont think there is as much doom with these people as I read here, hope not to be proven wrong ! |
The way people are talking on here you would think that Primark Airlines have given up on BHX completely. |
Lol!! I wondered when someone might pick up on that. Primark and Primera are both in the low cost market with the former doing quite well. I sincerely hope the latter will do equally well, but as stated numerous times they've got off to a bad start at BHX.
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True but is this not a failing of market research? I think if I was trying to flog Boston I'd have been inclined to sign up a package operator, or offer my own packages to the New England area, especially so for the autumn season to help bolster sales as the summer season falls away. It may well be that Primera will try again in 2019, when they've got a year under their belts, and a fleet that is delivered and working. With the benefit of market experience they may then stand a better chance of making BOS work. Of course it's not just about making BOS work from UK, it's about making Central England work from Boston - probably a harder task. |
Especially when you have 2 established and well known operators up the road and also
down south with numerous flights |
BHX and Primera should emphasise the central England location of the airport and it's excellent motorway and mainline train connections and for those who have early late start/end an excellent range of airport hotels, which must be amongst the highest number outside of LHR/LGW. It's catchment area is potentially very large, but more needs to be done to promote that imho.
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Things can’t be as bad as people are thinking Primera Air have this morning announces a new route from London to Washington DC.
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Using the BHX-BOS aircraft I presume?
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Possibly wasn’t Boston 4x weekly Washington is 5x weekly also a Saturday Palma added from Stansted in July.
Stansted Toronto increased to 5x weekly from August 23rd. |
Originally Posted by FQTLSteve
(Post 10038329)
Using the BHX-BOS aircraft I presume?
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Yes Birmingham Alabama and Manchester New Hampshire lol!
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Isn't London in Ihio and Paris in Texas? Or for those with USA passports, another Island off Long Island NY! :}
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Stockport Ohio, Yeah there there had to be one
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Rome
Quite interesting that Champions League matches and Commonwealth Games can create speculation about extra flights which might or might not happen then you get a moderately interesting rugby match albeit in a wonderful city attract 5 charters and bring forward a new service by a couple of weeks.
Small Planet (A321) Titan (A320) TUI (UK) - 738 Jet2 x 2 738 & 757 (well 2 x 757's as one went tech) All to Rome and then the new schedule (which is probably the most important aspect) LS1227/8 which was due to start half term operated today so just the six flights. I do realise Italy v England is one of the easier 6 Nations games to get a ticket mixed in with a cracking city to visit but welcome passengers for BHX. |
Is Birmingham perhaps paying the price for increased charges with United, Icelandair, and Air Transat pulling out ?
Maybe the Primera loads were good but grounded by more acute fees compared to STN. Is it possiblly tied in with the runway extention that will have to be paid for ? |
So why just BOS? Presumably there would be some sort of start up deal on fees anyway. Sure the airline said pax demand... :suspect:
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You know for a fact that BHX was charging so much more than STN? My experiences with BHX are that they would happily incentivise to expand their longhaul offering. MAG group of course are still having to find a way to profitably grow STN after massively overpaying for it.
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