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LTNman 13th Mar 2020 13:05

Seems we can add Malta to today’s list unless passengers don’t mind being quarantined.

Buster mentions airports and airlines but let’s not forget LLAL. They have borrowed massive sums for its planned airport expansion so are paying interest payments to the council who in turn have borrowed the money themselves. The Town Hall will be worried as fees to the council will be in free fall not only due to a drop in passengers but due to the diversion of fees to pay the interest payments.

Manx 13th Mar 2020 18:51


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 10712549)
let’s not forget LLAL. They have borrowed massive sums for its planned airport expansion so are paying interest payments to the council who in turn have borrowed the money themselves.

With you around, how could we possibly forget...

LTNman 13th Mar 2020 19:02


Originally Posted by Manx (Post 10712877)
With you around, how could we possibly forget...

Looking back on your handful of posts you say a lot but contribute nothing to this thread and just moan like an old woman.

Hard times for all at Luton so don’t shoot the messenger when I expand the discussion to the owner of the airport.

davidjohnson6 13th Mar 2020 19:26

Poland to close its borders to non-citizens
Edit - also Ukraine

At this rate, Wizzair are unlikely to be flying at all to Luton by Monday

Manx 13th Mar 2020 19:33


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 10712884)
Looking back on your handful of posts you say a lot but contribute nothing to this thread and just moan like an old woman.

Hard times for all at Luton so don’t shoot the messenger when I expand the discussion to the owner of the airport.

Thanks for your observations.

Planespeaking 13th Mar 2020 19:53


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 10712884)
Looking back on your handful of posts you say a lot but contribute nothing to this thread and just moan like an old woman.

Hard times for all at Luton so don’t shoot the messenger when I expand the discussion to the owner of the airport.

LTNman I don't think that kind of personal comment is helpful, after all in recent weeks you have published your public toilet experiences, and your comments on the absence of spoken English in the LTN terminal.

The way things are going the only language to be heard in LTN International may well be English.

Please don't diminish someone who hasn't made many posts, perhaps they have a life outside PPrune,

Buster the Bear 13th Mar 2020 21:05


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 10712549)
Seems we can add Malta to today’s list unless passengers don’t mind being quarantined.

Buster mentions airports and airlines but let’s not forget LLAL. They have borrowed massive sums for its planned airport expansion so are paying interest payments to the council who in turn have borrowed the money themselves. The Town Hall will be worried as fees to the council will be in free fall not only due to a drop in passengers but due to the diversion of fees to pay the interest payments.

More cuts to local services then, or default on the interest repayments?

Some airline commentators stating it could take up to 18 months for worldwide traffic numbers to climb back to pre-Covid-19 levels, LBC could really be in trouble? I am sure LBC have a Plan B, or let us hope so when income reduces massively?

Expressflight 14th Mar 2020 08:43


Originally Posted by Buster the Bear (Post 10713019)
I am sure LBC have a Plan B, or let us hope so when income reduces massively?

I seriously doubt that anyone in the industry had a Plan B for dealing with anything as calamitous as the worldwide effects of Covid-19 will prove to be.

Spanish eyes 14th Mar 2020 10:54

Plenty of scenarios in the annual report about different risks to the airport. Viruses is not one of them. https://www.london-luton.co.uk/Londo...6b1f5bf1d4.pdf

Spanish eyes 14th Mar 2020 11:06

When you think it cannot get any worse it does. Time to start thinking the unthinkable. Will Wizz survive this? Big implications for Luton if they don’t.

AirportPlanner1 14th Mar 2020 11:59


Originally Posted by Spanish eyes (Post 10713583)
When you think it cannot get any worse it does. Time to start thinking the unthinkable. Will Wizz survive this? Big implications for Luton if they don’t.

Anyone could go, even IAG. Jet2, TUI possibly have the advantage of holding more forward cash from packages, people booking their summer hol flights. BA and the like will be hammered by lack of premium demand and higher % of late bookings.

Buster the Bear 14th Mar 2020 18:29

I think SLAE can stand down T2 will not happen.

LTNman 14th Mar 2020 18:55

Too much money committed to abandon the application. Passenger numbers over the next 2 or 3 years will dictate timescales if approved. Issues for Luton will be the collapse of a major Luton player or lots of spare slots at Gatwick where airlines would prefer to be. Just need to look at the TUI and easyjet operation at Luton compared to Gatwick.

compton3bravo 14th Mar 2020 19:00

Unfortunately it looks like it's time to close the hangar doors for a while.

Buster the Bear 15th Mar 2020 21:18

Am I right in thinking that LBC needs to find £125m to finish DART? Good luck with that!

LTNman 15th Mar 2020 22:54

They also need to find £124 million to build the T2 enabler road and have gone to government and the tax payer after the councillors discovered the build was not viable. Have they bitten off more than they can chew?

They have realised too late that by being not so clever and giving themselves planning permission to build it they now have to fund it. If it was part of the DCO they would not have to fund it.

dvc 16th Mar 2020 08:08

Apparently on Sunday morning (15th) only 25% expected departing passengers showed up.

LTNman 16th Mar 2020 09:45

Is that 25% of those with tickets or 25% of what would be expected in normal times?

LTNman 16th Mar 2020 10:06

Looks like there is going to be a premium price charged for the new non stop rail service from Parkway to London. This would mean there will be no flexibility for passengers to swap trains if a fast or slower one was due.

Spanish eyes 16th Mar 2020 10:12

19 cancellations on the board today and that doesn't count the flights that disappeared last week.


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