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LTNman 1st Nov 2020 15:48

You do indeed as 31.3mph is in brackets. The unconverted figure given is 50.4 km/h, which is another strange figure. The maximum incline is 5%, which is the maximum the cable haul system can cope with at Luton. This might explain why the route starts on a viaduct and ends up in a tunnel to reduce the incline?

Another strange figure is 170 passengers per train as that means 42.5 passengers can be carried in each carriage. Does than mean that the 2 outer cars are a different size to the 2 inner cars?

They also give the length of the track as 2080m long yet everywhere else it is quoted as 2200m. From memory Luton’s runway is 2160m long which almosts splits the difference.

crunchynutter 3rd Nov 2020 15:45

As usual great pics LTNMAN.
3mins 45secs at 31.3mph delivering 2700 pax per hour.
Think we will be lucky to see that number of passengers in the whole of next week.
Quiet times ahead again

southside bobby 3rd Nov 2020 17:44

An LA based private equity fund has approached AMP a part investor in LTN/NCL & LBA with a preliminary offer.

In the case of LTN it covers the AMP 49% holding.

pabely 3rd Nov 2020 18:58

As it was behind a paid firewall I couldn't make out whether the approach was just for the Airport Management part of AMP (headed by Graeme Ferguson ex MAG Group) or for AMP full stop!?
- found the answer in Oz press

AMP have announced that they have received an offer for 100% share buyout from US investment management firm Ares.


LTNman 3rd Nov 2020 19:48

Just over 10 years left on the concession with the airport making major losses. In 2031 the concessionaire walks away with nothing so it must be other parts of the portfolio that is attractive as they don't even have a voting majority at Luton.

LTNman 3rd Nov 2020 20:52

Seems that LLAL are now looking at the Dart not opening until the beginning of 2022. Also LLAOL are predicting that Luton will bounce back first and are in a good place to recover lost ground although they don’t think the airport will be maxed out to 18 million until around 2023.

Buster the Bear 4th Nov 2020 00:04

If you can’t pay, we’ll take it off the Luton residents, asset strip and make a home for a flying club.

LTNman 4th Nov 2020 04:54

Regarding the possibility of a start of 2022 opening date for the Dart. The timescale for the project that was published in 2017 show the Dart running gear installation and controls has a one year window followed by 6 months of testing. There was an overlap with the start of the Dart installation and the finishing of the building work but the infrastructure was meant to have been finished by June 2020.

Lee Baker Street 4th Nov 2020 15:26

Maxed Out!
 

Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 10918195)
Seems that LLAL are now looking at the Dart not opening until the beginning of 2022. Also LLAOL are predicting that Luton will bounce back first and are in a good place to recover lost ground although they don’t think the airport will be maxed out to 18 million until around 2023.

For the airport to become maxed out is at minimum; 22 million passengers a year!

southside bobby 4th Nov 2020 15:53

With permissions...with permissions.

Bim in Hertfordshire is on your case with 19m let alone the creeping.

LTNman 4th Nov 2020 15:58


Originally Posted by Lee Baker Street (Post 10918694)
For the airport to become maxed out is at minimum; 22 million passengers a year!

Can’t remember if the figure is 22m or 22.5 million within the existing boundary but the figure I gave of 18m is the figure that was quoted, as other figures are subject to at least two planning applications. As we know Luton Airport is unique where the operator asks the owner for permission. It is all very dodgy as the owner should not be the decision maker.

southside bobby 4th Nov 2020 16:26

Bim & Hertfordshire are on the case even to 19m let alone any dodgy creep to 22.5m.
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LTNman 4th Nov 2020 16:40

So the locals are not very happy today when these signs were put up. The motion to get the airport to fund the scheme as the parking problems were caused by the airport was voted down in part by the airport directors who are also Councillors. Conflicts of interest and a new source of income for a Council that is lending its airport £83m while cutting services to the bone.
https://i.imgur.com/n1kDJVu.png

pabely 4th Nov 2020 18:35


Originally Posted by southside bobby (Post 10918737)
Bim & Hertfordshire are on the case even to 19m let alone any dodgy creep to 22.5m.
.

Perhaps Bim doesn't like the airport because he can't get a flight to Uganda or China and has to go via LHR and an elecric car can't make it! 🤐
Pilots living in AL5 might think differently.

pabely 4th Nov 2020 19:17

Luton won't be second busiest airport in lockdown #2

LGS6753 4th Nov 2020 22:28


Originally Posted by pabely (Post 10918829)
Luton won't be second busiest airport in lockdown #2

But on the first day of lockdown #2, there are 83 departures and 78 arrivals scheduled (according to Flightstats).

Spanish eyes 5th Nov 2020 04:51

More like a third of that figure with 26 departures and 23 arrivals until 21:00.

southside bobby 5th Nov 2020 07:10

Ah well...it just took 2 hours for someone to make a bit of "show" of themselves...It could have been relied on.

LTNman 5th Nov 2020 07:53


Originally Posted by Spanish eyes (Post 10919046)
More like a third of that figure with 26 departures and 23 arrivals until 21:00.

And even those should mainly be ghost flights although I suspect many passengers will be ignoring the lockdown.

southside bobby 5th Nov 2020 08:57

Don`t Border Force & even Security have an over arching view & control?


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