Guess you can say that a certain person:O "has been hung by his own petard"

Not at all Skyman, the reply I gave highwide applies to your comment as well

I have been watching this thread and reminded myself that I had to stop a whole lot of niggling, backbiting, abuse and generally running a race to see who could be insulted first. It has started again and I note that there are one or two of the same antagonists who are heading it.


Well, you carry on with your silly nonsense wherever you like but it is not going to be here. Get back on topic do NOT name names, Do NOT insult or abuse or this thread will be gone along with at least four people who seem only hare to cause trouble and cannot help themselves doing it.


Got the point?


PPP

Here, here to the Moderator!
No matter which airport you live near, I thought the idea was to support it.
Like myself, many people have not posted, just in case they received abuse or any other insult.
MME is going through bad times at the moment, it is too easy to blame someone or some people for the decline, unfortunately it will be harder to cure the problem. I wish I knew how to put matters right, but I do not and certainly do not have the know how to do it.

I avoid the thread wherr possible as so bad and mesningless and full of bitterness and unrelated comments I dont bother posting.
Yet ironically technically its now my local airport.
Im hoping links air starr here too.
More Flybe and a route to Lcy might revive it.
Howabout a niche market destination like the Faroe Islands twice a week.
They haveclinks to Copenhagen. But they are Stunning an def not a bucket and spade rou5.
Atlantic must have freed some Avros up.
Or theres always Iceland.
Again the odd flight therr another niche destination.
Or Stavanger seems a popular route.
And at the Risk of being a stuck record.
A three ot fourctimes weekly two maybe fourvtimes daily to Sumburgh (all tge cross over with teeside industry plus the oil platforms in Shetland ).
Maybe Eastern aurways can pick that up and also offer direct Scatsa flights

Route development
 

:ugh: Spell checker broke again?

All been covered...when the owner isn't interested why should the airlines be?

The owners are more than interested, the problem is a lack of airlines to operate routes, when you deduct those that are already in bed with NCL and/or LBA who's left???

Onxycrowle: I'm sure you've just copied and pasted a post you made a few months back with equally bizarre suggestions.

Iceland: covered from Scotland and Manchester.

Faroes: I think last time you were suggesting Stornoway. Too niche. Too little tourism. Ask your average Teessider where the Faroes are, and they will most likely point to Egypt. Atlantic serve STN (London market) and not too frequently either I think the chances of MME are slim to none.

Stavanger: served off and on for as long as can remember from NCL. If someone wants to fly from MME they can connect in ABZ.

LCY: won't work. Too much competition from the upto half hourly London rail service. It's a costly place to operate into. Yes, people could connect onwards, but AMS has connections.

You have to ask yourself (of any destination) if it isn't covered by other nearby airports that have larger catchment areas and much bigger population centres then why would anyone do it from MME?

My feeling is that until it closes MME has all it needs. It has the oil run up to Aberdeen, and has connections to most of the world via AMS. The bucket and spade market are well covered by NCL and LBA. It has all that it needs. It's not going to change save for the odd random small charter flight.

I have very fond memories of the place and want it to succeed but I, like everyone else, need to be realistic.

Post in moderation
 

Come on guys...4 th August since last post.

I know where the mod is coming from but surely a little but of banter is acceptable?

At the end of the day it shows nothing is happening at the drome!!! So sad.

I asked a couple of genuine questions recently.

Why is Sycamore so quiet and are cobhamsCalibration) Still leaving? Any ideas??
Finally. Dtv airport...anything of interest???

highwide - it's the middle of August and large numbers of office workers (ie those who make decisions at a high level in companies including airlines) are on holiday. You may notice that the last 2 weeks on this forum have been quiet with little of any substance being released that could not wait until September (except Alitalia). Summer 2015 schedules will start to be announced in a serious way in about 3 weeks time when everyone is back from the beach.

As for DTV, in itself a very quiet airport, I can see very little reason as to why it should have anything newsworthy until September at the earliest.

Just enjoy the sunshine and come back in a few weeks time... !

Highwide, I think the reason the thread is so quiet is because it was often only the trouble makers who liked to stir the pot, and looking at their profiles, it would appear they've all been banned (and rightly so IMO).

The Lanc visit is taking up everyone's time at the moment including mine with everything else put on hold for now.

The Calibration lot are still moving out but I'm not sure when exactly, reading between the lines, most if not all of the DTVA-based staff refused to move to Bournemouth so they're having to take the time to train up new staff and crews from scratch, could be wrong mind.

As for Sycamore, very quiet indeed, I'm getting a little worried, I'm sure they'll pull something out of the hat before much longer.

Update
 

Thanks for that guys.

Yes the Lancaster visit should be memorable!!

Sycamore has a lot of competition...aeroplanes are being dismantled all over the place it seems!!

I think most of the summer brochures are out for 2015. So we may have to wait until 2016 for any policy changes by peel and the airlines?

One final thing. Where exactly are we with the housing plans?

Sycamore
 

I too am worried about Sycamore, there are nine companies involved in aircraft recycling in the UK, these being:

Aircraft Recycling Ltd [KLM UK Engineering] (Norwich) **
Air Salvage International (Kemble)
Apple Aviation (Newquay) **
ATC Lasham (Lasham)
Caledonian Aviation (Prestwick) **
eCube Solutions LLP (St Athan) **
GJD Services (Bruntingthorpe) **
Sycamore Aviation (Durham Tees Valley)
United Recovery & Recycling (Manston) **

Those marked ** set-up after or at the same time as Sycamore (all bar two - GJD Services may have been before) and sadly for us every single damn one of them boasts better facilities. Not sure if the Manston outfit are still trading given that airports closure.

I hope they get something soon as for us they're the goose that lays the golden egg, but as you can see, it's become a very overcrowded market in the last two years. No activity whatsoever around the hangar of late.

Sycamore
 

Yes I thought it strange when they started auctioning off bits last month...no contracts?(they even advertised on here!!):confused:

GJD has no hangar, Prestwick never started not sure about Norwich either. One of the main factors is not many aircraft are up for scrapping at the moment.
GJD took a 747 yesterday so lets hope by the end of the summer season frames will be due for scrapping.

July figures
 

Terrible figures for July.Pax down 16% on last July ?Aberdeen slightly up Amsterdam down.
I know we say this every month but how long before peel say enough is enough?

One bit of good news we managed to stay ahead of the Scilly isles and Stornoway!!:D

In detail
 

Another telling figure is that it equates to only 194 passengers per day leaving the airport...oh well that's £1161. Per day from the passenger tax!:{

Also been a number of CityJet/VLM charters in the last week or so - anybody know what they are doing?

How much was KLM down by? June they were down 2%, they were up five consecutive months prior to that so providing it can be 'nipped in the bud' surely we can take a little hit?

Load factors are much better than the back end of last year.

Amsterdam figures
 

July KLM down 3% (for interest NCL up 4%)

Time for a change?

Commercial director leaves Durham Tees Valley Airport (From The Northern Echo)

The public? one person who repeatedly bangs a familiar drum... :suspect:

Boris Island
 

A piece on Simon Mayos drivetime today gives mention to Humberside Teesside and Inverness. Airports that have long been forgotten when it comes to links to the capital. The guest was Lawrie Price an 'Aviation expert', who reckons it will be 2030 or 3 succesive governments before a decision is made on air expansion in London. Should dovetail nicely into Peels Masterplan.
We should be on Mars by then!

Inverness has flights to two London airports going up to three this winter, just not Heathrow anymore.

Plus INV needs a London services given the options are a 12+ hour bus ride or 8+ hour train ride. A London service would bring nothing to MME that can't be done via AMS. A London service for those terminating in London is nonsensical given the quick and regular train service.

The BA 787 looked nice on the approach yesterday presume it will be back if they need somewhere quiet for a bit more training.

BA 787 and fire cover
 

Yes great sight to see a large aeroplane again!! Just a thought...is the correct fire cover in place..I seem to remember we are only covered for the jet streams and fokkers? Maybe it doesn't apply to training???

I stand to be corrected but my understanding is crews on larger types can waiver the fire category providing there are no pax on board.

Hangar 4 area already has planning for industrial use.

The last Flybe Jersey flight for 2014 is next Saturday, 13th of September
In the absence of a summer 2015 timetable on the Flybe website, does anyone know whether Flybe will return to DTV for S15 ?

Sycamore
 

From the lack of movements, assume this company have ceased operations. Can somebody confirm either way please? Thank you.

Went from MME yesterday for the first time in about 6 months. The new business lounge is clean, simple and was fairly full for an early morning.

The cafe has relocated next door into the area of the old business lounge. This is a much more inviting place than the departure area but no one was sat in it. Maybe some directional signage to let people know about the new cafe would drag some passengers into the area.

Didn't know about this, so good to hear something positive, helps to generate a bit of momentum - airport should be giving the local press a bit of good news.

The Sycamore website still seems to be up and running but a movement website shows that nothing has happened since April 14.

Lounge
 

I agree, the new cafe is tidy but is well hidden away. Also some confusion as the entrance is via the business lounge so invariably you get people wondering from one to the other unsure what is going on.

Sat on the tarmac the other morning, delayed half an hour because, according to the pilot, "a member of the fire crew had slept in and we couldn't leave until everyone had arrived for work". Had many delays in my life but never because a fireman had slept in.

Noticed also the lack of activity at Sycamore. Hopefully a blip?

Sycamore
 

They are still trading, but sadly the airport have had to place a repossession notice on their hangar due to unpaid bills.

I heard somewhere they've potentially got a couple of aircraft in the pipeline for around October time, and they are hoping to find enough cash to carry on trading until then, but alas it sounds to me like they are clutching at straws.

A great shame as they didn't deserve this, they have had A LOT of bad luck during their short existence. Always seems to happen to the best ones.

Disappointing - also, weren't they one of the key potential clients for the aviation related industries part of the Masterplan?

I was hoping for their sake it would be kept off here, never mind.

SWBKCB - until the worst happens - IF the worst happens - they still are.

Has the airport really reduced to 3 ABZ and 3 AMS rotations and only 200 departing passengers per day? How did the skydiving operation work out, did it fit in smoothly with the scheduled flights?

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