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racedo 12th Mar 2014 12:02


Several B737-800 aircraft currently with Fly Dubai have been arranged via the lessor to be used by Ryanair over the summer period !
Now 738's is not a shock as predicted this likely to happen once they pushed for the new order with Boeing likely to assist.

Cyrano 12th Mar 2014 12:08

-800s would not be a shock. It was the reference to 737-400s which perplexed me!

racedo 12th Mar 2014 12:51

Me too as Crew and Engineering would have made it odd choice. Could still be but just seems odd choice especially when there are spare 738s available.

750XL 12th Mar 2014 13:07

An ex Samair 734 flew to EMA the other day from NBO, is it possible that is one of their first (or the only) 734 heading to FR for the summer?

Either way, they're definitely on the cards

GLAinsider 12th Mar 2014 23:21

Isn't it about time FR reviewed their presence in Northern Ireland. Yes, they have a base in Londonderry, but Belfast is crying out for flights to certain destinations. Take LPA, the only flight from Belfast next Summer if TOM and that is only available to book with a package holiday. If FR can't / won't base a/c in Belfast they could at least operate some flights from European bases into BFS.

XSBaggage 13th Mar 2014 01:05

I know the 737-400s are definitely on the cards, but I don't know how many, or from where they are coming (or on what sort of basis they will be operated). Can anyone shed any light?

FRatSTN 19th Mar 2014 15:34

WINTER 2014/15 SCHEDULE RELEASED
 
Winter schedule revealed for Stansted and I think maybe a couple of other routes.

Probably to do with Ryanair's improved customer service, the winter schedule is very early this year.

First time ever to my knowledge that Ryanair have released ahead of EasyJet, who so I've been told will release theirs in mid April.

RAT 5 19th Mar 2014 16:11

I know the 737-400s are definitely on the cards, but I don't know how many, or from where they are coming (or on what sort of basis they will be operated). Can anyone shed any light?

I anticipate the confusion is with the thinking that RYR crews will fly these a/c. I doubt that: I assume they will be wet leased. One question is why. There are varying dates for the next tranche of -800's arriving. If it will be 2015, and it was known in advance, then why design a business plan and schedule that you can't deliver without outside help; which may or may not have been forth-coming. Could be risky. If 2016 is the next -800 date then do RYR plan this lease operation for the next 2 years? Even more risky. If the -400 a/c are wet leased, and depending from whom, I wonder how the crews might react to the RYR roster. I've been involved with a/c having wet leased a/c in where the crews retained their own contractual conditions. It was chaotic for rostering and flight scheduling. It was necessary to make a little airline within an airline. Packages of routes from fixed bases etc.
Someone must be in the know.

racedo 19th Mar 2014 17:04


If it will be 2015, and it was known in advance, then why design a business plan and schedule that you can't deliver without outside help; which may or may not have been forth-coming. Could be risky. If 2016 is the next -800 date then do RYR plan this lease operation for the next 2 years?
Believe Sept is start of first deliveries, that may or may not change by month or so depending on how Boeing can ramp up production.
Boeing 737-800 Production List - Planespotters.net Just Aviation

When order made we discussed it on here (you in that one as well ;)) as I had suggested that Summer 2014 was always likely to be an issue with number of airframes available and possibility of need to lease some in.

Think your point regarding crews if Wet leasing is valid. I would suggest that its likely to be on a fixed number of high frequency routes due to both engineering support and pilot location...........the list is 5-6 locations.

Funny feeling that Interiors on new 738s may be different............don't know just a gut feeling that FR will pull another rabbit out of a hat.

EI-BUD 19th Mar 2014 19:58


If it will be 2015, and it was known in advance, then why design a business plan and schedule that you can't deliver without outside help; which may or may not have been forth-coming. Could be risky.
Rat5,
A valid question but I would say a strategic move to

1. Keep Vueling in its place as the loco goes from strength to strength
2. Realisation that to maintain growth, especially in lean winter period business orientated operations like MXP FCO and BRU were needed, they didn't want to be coming late to the party when Vueling was established at some of these.

I would suggest management direction was make it happen.

racedo 19th Mar 2014 20:07

EI

Yeah go along with that.

Sometime its like in the lift on the way to the bar, plan is meeting up the lads all set for an evening out with a meal and a stunner walks into the lift and says she knows nobody and do you know a good restaurant...............nope never happened to me either:*

BFS BHD 20th Mar 2014 07:51

Looks like Ryanair is announcing winter flights from Dublin this morning!

Jack1985 20th Mar 2014 09:54

Plenty of route increases, continuation of new routes launching for S14 plus new daily service to Cologne/Bonn.

Ryanair Launches Dublin Winter 2014 Schedule

virginblue 20th Mar 2014 11:52

Is the timetable for the new DUB routes available somewhere? Could not find anything on the Ryanair's website. Need to know if the CGN schedule allows day returns.

Hangar6 20th Mar 2014 13:58

Cgn
 
FR two flights is in fact one round trip , so no day visit

Stevek 20th Mar 2014 14:12

Anyone have accedes to a full list of routes from DUB for W14/15 with frequency?

virginblue 20th Mar 2014 16:06


FR two flights is in fact one round trip , so no day visit
Thanks. Stupid me, fell once again for the unusual FR terminology.

Jamie2k9 27th Mar 2014 15:51


I know the 737-400s are definitely on the cards, but I don't know how many, or from where they are coming (or on what sort of basis they will be operated). Can anyone shed any light?
There will be 4 of them and they will be operated out of DUB.

Stevek 28th Mar 2014 09:11

Really dumping up the fleet age in DUB. Any idea if they'll be flying set routes?

racedo 28th Mar 2014 11:04


Really dumping up the fleet age in DUB. Any idea if they'll be flying set routes?
Looking at it logically it would suggest that its likely to be Dub-UK routes as means they can provide line maintenance support at one or two airports rather than spreading it across the network.


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