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Hangar6 28th Mar 2014 11:23

S14 FR DUB
 
5% plus increase in ATMS for both FR and EI this summer for Dublin

FR ATM 34254 32% and EI 47748 44% total 75% of all airline capacity between them !

FR 737 x4 lease are 170 and 168 seats , no idea of routes

Still good to see both growing ,

Jamie2k9 28th Mar 2014 13:07


Really dumping up the fleet age in DUB. Any idea if they'll be flying set routes?
They won't be around for to long, think its mainly peak season.


Looking at it logically it would suggest that its likely to be Dub-UK routes as means they can provide line maintenance support at one or two airports rather than spreading it across the network.
Could be however such large amounts of UK flights are not DUB based. Would expect they will operated on routes according to supply/demand over their time here.

Stevek 28th Mar 2014 19:08

Any particular reason they picked 400s over 800s?

racedo 28th Mar 2014 21:27


Any particular reason they picked 400s over 800s?
Would suggest availability..........

Una Due Tfc 28th Mar 2014 21:59

Are they going to bother with painting if they only have them for a few months? Given the loco ethos I'm guessing they will be white tails?

Tom the Tenor 29th Mar 2014 14:18

I should like to express my gratitude to everyone in Ryanair for the smooth termination yesterday, 28th March, 2014, of two profitable routes at Cork Airport.

Warsaw and Krakow operated without hitch from Cork for the last fifteen or sixteen months and after a month or two of sluggish loads before Wizz Air's departure from Cork in early 2013 loads and yields grew dramatically and the two routes to Warsaw and Krakow were amongst the best Ryanair destinations from Cork.

Taking the above into account and bearing in mind the strong market for Polish routes from Cork Airport going back over many years Ryanair terminated the two routes from Cork yesterday.

paully 29th Mar 2014 14:51

The Lo Co`s are all ruthless. Obviously there wasn`t enough yield on the routes, despite maybe full loads. When that happens the routes get chopped. Its a way of life for them

Jack1985 29th Mar 2014 15:40


Obviously there wasn`t enough yield on the routes
Incorrect. They were there best yielding routes ex-Cork.

RAT 5 29th Mar 2014 18:26

Do you mean the best load factors or best profit? the two are not the same.

Millionmileshigh 29th Mar 2014 19:33

The flights can be full, but if no one is buying any if the optional extras, the flight won't make any profit

Jack1985 29th Mar 2014 22:13

ORK-KRK, ORK-WMI were dropped by FR to try get Cork management to lower overall fees for future expansion, they did not agree so Ryanair switched the routes at lower frequency to SNN. The routes were operating above 90%, and were in the top 4, FR Cork yielding routes. KRK was profitable at day one, WMI followed when W6 left Cork.

RAT 5 29th Mar 2014 22:19

Toys out of pram comes to mind.

Seljuk22 30th Mar 2014 04:22

Any one knows how many a/c are based at each base across Europe this summer?

Jack1985 30th Mar 2014 07:48


Toys out of pram comes to mind.
Indeed, FR are infamous for it.

Heathrow Harry 30th Mar 2014 08:42

"They were there best yielding routes ex-Cork."

but maybe the planes could be used on better yield routes elsewhere?

And FR play hard ball - a threat is a threat from them and they don't hesitate to back it up with action

Jack1985 30th Mar 2014 12:14


"They were there best yielding routes ex-Cork."

but maybe the planes could be used on better yield routes elsewhere?
It's not debatable, it's fact. I answered another posters query to whether or not they were profitable or not.

Skipness One Echo 30th Mar 2014 12:33


It's not debatable, it's fact. I answered another posters query to whether or not they were profitable or not.
Forgive me, but how do you *know* this to be fact as it is most certainly commercially sensitive and anyone who does know this sort of thing, doesn't post it on here using their real name.

Incorrect. They were there best yielding routes ex-Cork.
Isn't that like the least wettest day in winter? If they can be used more profitably elsewhere and send a message at the same time I can see why they do this.

Jack1985 30th Mar 2014 12:40


Forgive me, but how do you *know* this to be fact as it is most certainly commercially sensitive and anyone who does know this sort of thing, doesn't post it on here using their real name.
Why would I disclose that here?


Isn't that like the least wettest day in winter? If they can be used more profitably elsewhere and send a message at the same time I can see why they do this.
As has been pointed out that's exactly what they have done, but yet without any deal reached with the CAA, have increased ORK-LON flights in Winter 14/15 and at the same time reduced SNN-LON in the same period next Winter with better terms at the latter. Judge that for yourself, but in Munster they have one best yielding airport currently - ORK, and I can disclose that as we were lectured on it.

racedo 1st Apr 2014 15:54

Michael O'Leary says 'sorry' for Queen Elizabeth sex jibe - Independent.ie

RAT 5 2nd Apr 2014 11:00

What a shame 'The Tower' is not an option for a non-UK miscreant abusing Herself outside Her domain.


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