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eu01 15th Jan 2014 17:38

Let's have a brief look at the flight schedules on a new route from Athens to Thessaloniki:
Sat, May 10 2014

Flight.. Depart - Arrive

FR10... 06:25 - 07:20
FR18... 07:45 - 08:40
FR16... 17:30 - 18:25
FR35... 18:50 - 19:45
FR12... 20:10 - 21:05
FR28... 22:05 - 23:00
The Thessalonian population is 322,240 (city) / 790,824 (urban). A great... vision or madness?

Mr A Tis 15th Jan 2014 18:04

I must be missing something here. I can't find any flights from MAN to BCN, except the two football specials in March. Nor are any of theproposed Las Palmas flights bookable.

davidjohnson6 15th Jan 2014 18:12

Perhaps worth noting that on the same day, 10 May, Aegean operate 10 flights from Athens to Thessaloniki

racedo 15th Jan 2014 19:52


Perhaps worth noting that on the same day, 10 May, Aegean operate 10 flights from Athens to Thessaloniki
What is current financials of Aegean ?

SealinkBF 15th Jan 2014 21:01

I understand up to 30 September 2013 they made a profit of €59m after tax with €237m cash in the bank.

Domestic traffic was dropping (probably due to the financial disaster that is Greece) however by third quarter domestic pax numbers started increasing again, however international traffic is increasing faster.

Of course, I could have entirely misread their results... :ouch:

racedo 15th Jan 2014 21:21

Sealink

Thank you.

Had a read and the stating that the Aqcuisition of Olympic will cause losses in last quarter. Guess it will be the integration of Olympic that will be challenge.

Funny EU allowing monopoly situation.........

davidjohnson6 15th Jan 2014 23:01

racedo - I would encourage you to Google to read up on the Aegean - Olympic takeover / merger. I believe the rationale given was that Olympic was in such trouble that a refusal to permit integration with Aegean would have led to Olympic very likely ceasing to fly commercially in a substantial way.

I believe EU competition law permits merger of 2 companies with non-trivial market share when there is significant doubt as to whether one company is a going concern - a similiar logic prevailed with IAG / British Airways buying bmi. Aer Lingus seems to be in good health, showing no sign of major problems like bankruptcy so Ryanair is being denied permission to take over Aer Lingus. If Aer Lingus were to spend a few years losing a ton of money and looked like going bust, then MOL might get his way. Until then, MOL will have to just carry on with life.

I'm sure your buddies in Dublin will be able to stand on their own 2 feet when competing in Greece though

pee 16th Jan 2014 07:43

There have been some leaks concerning the new Dublin - St. Petersburg route. Most probably it will be flown from April onwards three times a week. The preliminary schedules suggest early departures from DUB (6:00 - 6:30 AM), the time of arrival in St. Petersburg just after 13:00 local time. The travel days would be Tue, Thu, Sat.

AMS flyer 16th Jan 2014 08:55

Further expansion at EIN
 
New routes for EIN:

EIN-MJV 2/7
EIN-CFU 1/7
EIN-TSF 3/7

Most probably operated by second based aircraft at EIN.

The SSK 16th Jan 2014 09:35

Aegean is a great little airline. Consistently profitable until the Greek meltdown happened, it’s already back in the black even though the economy is still a total mess. Add to that a terrific reputation for service and a string of awards. Not the sort of thing you associate with a Greek airline, I can only conclude that they are very well managed, and the few contacts I have with them suggests they have a strong and affirmative corporate culture.

Will be an interesting battle. It will hurt Aegean but I doubt it will cripple them

Sober Lark 17th Jan 2014 15:52

Autumn to now = Kenny Jacobs. Congrats

racedo 17th Jan 2014 16:10


Autumn to now = Kenny Jacobs. Congrats
Ryanair Completes Senior Management Appointments

9 Appointments. importantly 8 of those are internal.
Always need new blood but too many destabilises and tells people internally they will not be considered for promotion.

davidjohnson6 17th Jan 2014 16:25


Lesley Kane who was previously Head of Sales & Marketing is promoted to become Ryanair’s new Head of Groups & Corporate Sales.
I hope I'm not being naive here, but this seemed a somewhat surprising announcement for 2 reasons:
- How is moving from head of sales+marketing to head of group/corporate sales a promotion ?
- With a network that is still heavily reliant on airports in leisure-focussed locations and areas with modest population density, how much potential is there really for significant amounts of corporate sales ? Or is this a coded way of reinforcing the message that the company wants to move much more towards primary airports ?

racedo 17th Jan 2014 16:35


I hope I'm not being naive here, but this seemed a somewhat surprising announcement for 2 reasons:
- How is moving from head of sales+marketing to head of group/corporate sales a promotion ?
- With a network that is still heavily reliant on airports in leisure-focussed locations and areas with modest population density, how much potential is there really for significant amounts of corporate sales ? Or is this a coded way of reinforcing the message that the company wants to move much more towards primary airports ?
More close involvement with T Agents perhaps ?

TSR2 17th Jan 2014 16:45

All but one are internal promotions. Well earned reward for those who have served Ryanair loyally over the years.

Seljuk22 19th Jan 2014 05:07

FR about to cancel BGY-CIA (3 daily). Last flights bookable 29 March.
Ryanair to cancel flights between Milan and Rome - ANSA English - ANSA.it

EI-A330-300 20th Jan 2014 17:50

Customer service and all that......
Ryanair passengers 'mutiny' after plane forced to land at airport 250 miles from destination - Irish Mirror Online


Ryanair passengers revolt and steal from alcohol trolley after delay | Mail Online


Don't know which article is correct.

ayroplain 20th Jan 2014 19:27


Customer service and all that...
Pray, tell us what Ryanair did wrong here.

insuindi 21st Jan 2014 09:13

"English passengers would not have behaved like this and the British plod would probably have arrested rather than negotiated with the lot of them."

I admire your view of "English passengers".

British police would have been quite unlikely to arrest the lot, an arrest requires 2-4 man hours, times half the pax on board, well...

racedo 21st Jan 2014 10:54


Part of the problem is Ryanairs reputation, people are on edge from the minute they walking into the airport (it used to be the website, but that seems much better now?) its a shame because in terms of dealing with unplanned diversions FR are normally very good in this regard, but i suspect the passengers feared being dumped and left to fend for themselves based on the many Ryanair myths out there.

English passengers would not have behaved like this and the British plod would probably have arrested rather than negotiated with the lot of them.

So French culture, Ryanair Myth/perceived historical reputation

Is CDG/ORY open at this time of day?

Put it another way Paris is a Capital city, if i was flying into any London airport that had a night curfew and they dropped me in Newcastle I'd be thinking it was for their convenience not mine, is Nantes a FR base?
What a load of crap............English people would have behaved better.

Moron see, Moron do...................Nationality has SFA to do with it.

Ask the staff that were abused at Gatwick at Christmas by Pax if people behaved with stiff upper lip or as reported on here the Aer Lingus staff abused at Dub by pax when things were held up.

As for flying into CDG / ORY, your flight is going to Southend and can't land so lets just call LHR and tell them we want to land, right that should be a fun conversation.


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