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Hull City AFC 11th Oct 2014 10:57

Very reliable source confirms the following new routes from Monarch at LBA.

1. Alicante
2. Gibraltar
3. Naples
4. Rhodes
5. Sharm El Sheikh
6. Zante.

TartinTon 11th Oct 2014 15:36

Hull City....I would check your "very reliable source". Sharm from LBA?? Not a chance on the airbus without a serious payload restriction. The 757s could have done it but they are gone.

Hull City AFC 11th Oct 2014 15:46

TartinTon, just wait and see before spouting your mouth off!!!!!

MKY661 11th Oct 2014 18:28


2. Gibraltar
Hopefully this will work. Gibraltar really needs expanding at the moment and I know a few people go to that part of Spain who do use Leeds (I know GIB is not Spain but it's useful for the western side of the Costa del Sol) :)

MKY661 11th Oct 2014 18:36


Hull City....I would check your "very reliable source". Sharm from LBA?? Not a chance on the airbus without a serious payload restriction. The 757s could have done it but they are gone.
Some Monarch A321's have been fitted with some device which allows them to travel further distances. The A321 currently do most Sharm flights from all the other bases :)

LBIA 11th Oct 2014 20:09

I suppose them LBA based A320's G-ZBAA/B do have there advantages with them Sharklets.

gilesdavies 11th Oct 2014 20:57

Great news if the rumours are true...

I have read previously Monarch were contractually obliged to keep the LBA base... I hope this does not mean further cutbacks on other bases to accomodate the two aircraft needed to fly from this base.

It will be interesting to know that when Monarch announced they were cutting the fleet from 42 to 30 aircraft if this included the two that will be required for LBA or if the fleet will now be only cut to 32.


Hull City....I would check your "very reliable source". Sharm from LBA?? Not a chance on the airbus without a serious payload restriction. The 757s could have done it but they are gone.
???

Why would this be an issue?!

Leeds-Bradford has about 100m runway length advantage over Luton, and Monarch have been operating to Sharm-El-Sheikh with the A321 from there for about a year now and both airports are on top of hills too.

When I have flown LTN-SSH, it has always been busy and doubt their are any weight restrictions with the passenger loads.

TOM100 11th Oct 2014 21:24

They need to carry more fuel and hence weight from Leeds ?

MKY661 11th Oct 2014 23:07

Hull City AFC, do you know if flights from Manchester to Antalya, Bodrum, Gran Canaria, Larnaca and Paphos will be operating next summer or are these for the chop? Heard they were under review :)

yeo valley 12th Oct 2014 05:24

routes
 
routes under review with a smilie face. not quite right, as could mean job losses.

pabloc 12th Oct 2014 08:18

Just been 900 redundencies!:{

Monde 12th Oct 2014 08:38

try the RTOW off 32 out of LBA due to the obstacles and rising ground towards the Chevin - even Larnaca is a struggle in a 320....

TartinTon 12th Oct 2014 09:25

Quite correct Monde....but what do I know...I'm just "spouting my mouth off" :rolleyes:

ExpectmorePayless 12th Oct 2014 10:00

Monde. The people who could make those calculations are probably now redundant. :ugh: Only the Directors, top 120 Managers, Senior Business Analysts, Programme Managers, Project Managers, Change Management consultants, HR Business Partners, Business Analysts, project consultants and the PR and Communication Executives are left. :O

MKY661 12th Oct 2014 10:16


routes under review with a smilie face. not quite right, as could mean job losses.
Yeah really need to stop adding smilies to everything I write haha. I hope these routes do continue as I do see the potential still with these ones :)

Hull City AFC 12th Oct 2014 11:40

Monde & TartinTon:
Just wait and see what Monarch have planned before instantly dismissing.

MKY661, I'll see what I can find out for you.

Southside Hangers 13th Oct 2014 16:37

Where did you see/hear that pabloc, can't find anything about it on good ole Google

111KAB 13th Oct 2014 19:07

One of the many reports regarding the problems at Monarch for SH >


Monarch airline: from prince to pauper | Business | The Guardian

pabloc 13th Oct 2014 20:11

Southsidehangers...its been well reported in the periodicals and here in terms and endearment ( also on a more personel note:{)..

Facelookbovvered 14th Oct 2014 05:41

111KAB
 
I think the biggest challenge will be ensuring that summer profits overwhelm winter losses. Where Monarch are heading is a business model similar to Jet2, Jet2 make money on less passengers than Monarch carry, but managing winter losses through summer contract crews and airlines, Jet2 have an additional advantage, their aircraft capital cost are far less due to the fleet age.

Monarch say they wan't to compete with the major LoCo's, but Ryanair, easyJet & Norwegian have routes that they fill even on damp Tuesdays in November or Thursdays in Feb and to get their cost down Monarch will need to fly their new Boeings a lot more than a seasonal operator, whilst I'm fairly sure the deal with Greybull will go through, that will only be the start of Monarch regaining its crown


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