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EK77WNCL 22nd Sep 2014 22:12

CabinCrewe, actually no Boeing commented about 6-12 months ago that they still do have some/most/all of the tooling for the 757. Or something along those lines.

pabely 22nd Sep 2014 23:26

PwC - sadly it's touch and go...

MKY661 23rd Sep 2014 09:50

Greybull will bid for Monarch it looks like :):
Monarch bidder confirmed - www.travelweekly.co.uk

Skipness One Echo 23rd Sep 2014 09:54

Let's keep the weekly "Why don't Boeing build new B757s" for airliners.net please, there are many threads going over the reasons why this won't happen over in the forums there.

In terms of Monarch going under, this won't happen unless the current owners decide to allow the business go to the wall, which is a little different from the usual.

EI-BUD 23rd Sep 2014 12:20

Good news that the bidder plans to keep the company as going concern. I imagine the rule was ran over the prospect of asset stripping.

No doubt the Gatwick slots could fetch a good price. An likely easyJet would pay good money for them in order to keep the competition out , ie threats Norwegian et al.

MKY661 23rd Sep 2014 12:28

So if Monarch are selling Gatwick slots, I assume this will become one of the smallest bases? :)

hatters united 23rd Sep 2014 14:13

MKY661.
That was not what was said now, was it !!

LNIDA 23rd Sep 2014 15:38

LGW isn't slot restricted in the same way LHR is. LGW have found slots for Norwegians 300+ flights a week and more aircraft both short haul and long haul are planned for next year from Norwegian according to joint press releases from LGW/NAS

LGS6753 23rd Sep 2014 17:44

But it was only last year that FlyBe sold its slots to EZY for £25m

Buster the Bear 23rd Sep 2014 18:38

No doubt Monarch have 'Prime Time' slots that are worth a premium. If you look at Norwegian departure times, most for the outbound rotation depart between 05:00 and 06:30!

anna_list 23rd Sep 2014 19:38

Gatwick slots
 
Please excuse this slightly off-topic comment, but it does have some relevance:

Demand exceeds supply for Gatwick slots in many hours of the day (but not in every hour, as is the case at Heathrow). Check out the ACL start of season report for full details.

For example, slots for 07:00-08:00, 10:00-13:00 and 14:00-16:00 were oversubscribed this summer.

Slots were available in reasonable quantities from 08:00-10:00 and after 19:00.

This would explain why slots for based aircraft are likely to have fairly high values.

This summer higher capacities were declared in some hours (up to 55 movements), but now that NATS have lost the ATC contract it's not certain that capacity improvements will continue to be found.

T250 23rd Sep 2014 21:15


This summer higher capacities were declared in some hours (up to 55 movements), but now that NATS have lost the ATC contract it's not certain that capacity improvements will continue to be found.
There's no evidence/reason that LGW would not be able to continue providing up to 55 movements with its new ATC service provider :rolleyes::hmm:

SealinkBF 23rd Sep 2014 21:17

Greybull was the savior of Comet...

111KAB 24th Sep 2014 14:00

Redundancy confirmation
 
Monarch hopes 600 staff will choose voluntary redundancy - www.travelweekly.co.uk

CabinCrewe 24th Sep 2014 18:20

BBC News - Monarch staff agree to pay cuts of up to 30%
Can it get any worse ?

LNIDA 24th Sep 2014 20:18

Buster the bear
 
Yes they have some anti social departure slots, but these do get you into Europe in time for the start of the business day, the second wave (inbounds from Europe based aircraft) tend to be 08:00 -09:30 either way they seem to enjoy a good load factor, told long haul is above 95% which is good for a new market, but summers over now so there will be a lot of work to do to sustain it i think.

Buster the Bear 24th Sep 2014 21:58

Who are the short haul business travellers that fly Norwegian from Gatwick (Scandinavia apart)?

Ballot is like turkeys voting for Christmas!

MAEL has a value, so do the prime Gatwick slots. Once Greybull do the deal with Boeing I will believe Monarch will fly on.

kasuga 27th Sep 2014 08:15

Monarch airline: from prince to pauper | Business | The Guardian

INeedTheFull90 27th Sep 2014 09:14

CabinCrewe
 
It could get a LOT worse. They could all be out of a job. The 30% brings them inline with the industry standard (which has and will continue to fall) terms and conditions.

PAPI-74 27th Sep 2014 09:52

I really hope that Monarch spend their advertising budget wisely. To date, they seem to have drain-piped 10's of thousands in local areas, while Jet2 and Jet2 Holidays have become a national brand.

Maybe sack the bod in marketing and get a specialist brand generating company on board !!!


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