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AerRyan 16th Jul 2017 12:03


Originally Posted by racedo (Post 9832435)
UK/Ireland have a pre existing agreement so not affected.

Are you talking about the CTA? It would be dangerous to assume that won't be affected if other deals are.

racedo 16th Jul 2017 12:22


Originally Posted by AerRyan (Post 9832439)
Are you talking about the CTA? It would be dangerous to assume that won't be affected if other deals are.

CTA will not be affected............ that appears to the reading of it from EU/UK and Ireland plus the airlines.

Therefore if pretty much appear all in same line who offers a contra opinion ? and who would push it ?

AerRyan 16th Jul 2017 12:40


Originally Posted by racedo (Post 9832454)
CTA will not be affected............ that appears to the reading of it from EU/UK and Ireland plus the airlines.

Therefore if pretty much appear all in same line who offers a contra opinion ? and who would push it ?

The EU may well not allow it, how could you have freedom of movement to some part of the EU but not all of it? It simply wouldn't work. To me, it's either entire free movement (like a Swiss type scenario), or no free movement into the EU. Forget that agendas both the UK and ROI governments are saying they 'hope' for. It's really irrelevant to what comes to pass. you

racedo 16th Jul 2017 13:56


Originally Posted by AerRyan (Post 9832470)
The EU may well not allow it, how could you have freedom of movement to some part of the EU but not all of it? It simply wouldn't work. To me, it's either entire free movement (like a Swiss type scenario), or no free movement into the EU. Forget that agendas both the UK and ROI governments are saying they 'hope' for. It's really irrelevant to what comes to pass. you

CTA predates EEC Membership and there have been no EU bills to supercede it.

Issue with land border is different and not part of the issue................ that is a Customs and movement of goods issue.

Jamie2k9 16th Jul 2017 18:58


Originally Posted by Seljuk22 (Post 9828751)
ZRH announced half year growth of 8.6% Looks like they will reach 30 million this year and surpass DUB. DUB may surpass CPH which just reported a growth rate of 2.3% in the first 6 month

daa are always conservative about growth figures, projections for 2017 are around 5% growth (27.9 to 29.2 million). It's probable they will pass this figure slightly but I cannot see them going beyond 29.5.

AerRyan 17th Jul 2017 20:26

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-and-tourism/number-of-british-travellers-to-dublin-airport-falling-like-a-stone-1.3158056?mode=amp

What was that about British travellers again?

VickersVicount 17th Jul 2017 20:39

Yet large numbers of UK- DUB routes show increases in CAA data past few months?

PPRuNeUser0176 17th Jul 2017 21:02


https://www.irishtimes.com/business/...58056?mode=amp

What was that about British travellers again?
Read the language, "inbound" trips are down, overall numbers are not down 7%. Like previously said the majority of capacity cuts by FR are form the UK because of the latest spat.

Una Due Tfc 30th Jul 2017 05:06

I see DL have upgauged BOS to a B763 already. Just a brief thing or planned for the rest of the season?

owenc 2nd Aug 2017 16:04

What's the likelihood of United upgrading its Chicago flight to a 763 for next summer? When/where will this be announced?

CabinCrewe 2nd Aug 2017 16:25

UA seem not to be expanding too much over the Atlantic, I see LHR losing a daily EWR rotation.

PPRuNeUser0176 2nd Aug 2017 18:56


I see DL have upgauged BOS to a B763 already. Just a brief thing or planned for the rest of the season?
Not sure if those two rotations were pre planned or just down to aircraft availability. Delta route the aircraft SFO-BOS-DUB-BOS-SFO.


What's the likelihood of United upgrading its Chicago flight to a 763 for next summer? When/where will this be announced?

UA seem not to be expanding too much over the Atlantic, I see LHR losing a daily EWR rotation.
UA planned B763 for 3/6 months this year but ti was withdrawn soon afterwords. Not sure if a commercial or operational decision.

Fairdealfrank 2nd Aug 2017 19:20


The EU may well not allow it, how could you have freedom of movement to some part of the EU but not all of it? It simply wouldn't work. To me, it's either entire free movement (like a Swiss type scenario), or no free movement into the EU. Forget that agendas both the UK and ROI governments are saying they 'hope' for. It's really irrelevant to what comes to pass. you
Denmark, Norway and Sweden have had a common travel area since the early 20th century, very similar in fact to the CTA (UK and Ireland). From 1973 to the start of the EEA in 1994 Denmark was in the EU, Norway and Sweden were not, and it worked fine, so don't anticipate problems where they don't have to be any.

alserire 5th Aug 2017 10:33

Taking over an hour to deliver some bags in T2 today. Shocking.

PPRuNeUser0176 10th Aug 2017 16:01

Aer Lingus Winter Schedule



Aer Lingus has unveiled what it says is its largest ever winter schedule, including 350 extra transatlantic flights. In total, 300,000 additional seats are being added - 194,000 of which will be rolled out across short-haul services on European routes.

Long-haul:
* 350 more transatlantic flights for Winter 2017
* 13% increase in transtlantic capacity compared to 2016 (106,000)
* New Airbus A330-300 in operation for full winter season
* 12 flights per week to US West Coast

Short-haul:
* 194,000 more seats to Europe
* New winter route to Bilbao
* 47,000 extra seats to key European cities of Hamburg, Bordeaux and Zurich
* Additional 50,000 seats to Birmingham
* Additional 56,000 seats on new peak morning flight from Dublin to London
http://www.independent.ie/life/trave...-36019072.html

PPRuNeUser0176 10th Aug 2017 18:27

Aegean have extended ATH from 23 September until 8 January, then resuming on 28 March (June-Sep this summer). Good winter schedule as well, should do well.

PPRuNeUser0176 13th Aug 2017 17:20

Hainan Airlines close to finalising scheduling on Beijing-Dublin flights - Independent.ie

China's Hainan Airlines is close to agreeing a direct scheduled flight from Dublin to Beijing for the upcoming winter season, according to a number of sources.

Discussions have been under way for some time between the airline and Dublin Airport Authority (DAA) and the airline is close to finalising a schedule for the flights, the Sunday Independent has learned. The flight will operate on alternate days to Dublin and Edinburgh in Scotland and this has added complexity to the scheduling and slot negotiations, it is understood. Hainan Airlines is China's fourth-largest carrier and is owned by the huge HNA conglomerate, which also owns Dublin-based aircraft leasing firm Avolon.

A DAA spokesman said it "does not comment on whether or not it is in discussions with specific airlines in relation to potential new services".

EI-A330-300 14th Aug 2017 12:19

3,121,469 passengers in July up 6% (176,000). Worth noteing 3 of 4 days over Bank Holiday weekend last yeae fell in July, all in August this year.

Europe 1.7 million +7%
UK 896,000 -- flat, less than 0.05% change.
Transatlantic 404,000 +18%
Middle East 91,000 +8%
Domestic 10,000 +22%

Year to date over 16.9 million +6%

https://www.dublinairport.com/latest...irport-in-july

racedo 14th Aug 2017 17:56


Originally Posted by EI-A330-300 (Post 9861510)
3,121,469 passengers in July up 6% (176,000). Worth noteing 3 of 4 days over Bank Holiday weekend last yeae fell in July, all in August this year.

Europe 1.7 million +7%
UK 896,000 -- flat, less than 0.05% change.
Transatlantic 404,000 +18%
Middle East 91,000 +8%
Domestic 10,000 +22%

Year to date over 16.9 million +6%

https://www.dublinairport.com/latest...irport-in-july


What are rolling 12 months numbers. ?

EI-A330-300 14th Aug 2017 19:04


What are rolling 12 months numbers. ?
Rowling in about 28.9


China's Hainan Airlines is close to agreeing a direct scheduled flight from Dublin to Beijing for the upcoming winter season, according to a number of sources.
It does appear it's more credible this time. October might be a little optimistic start.


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