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LAX_LHR 24th Aug 2017 19:37


You typical type of Brit that holidays here would be their 2 or 3rd holiday per year for 3-4 days not your typical week or two week holiday......if money is tight you will obviously chose your annual holiday over a short break.
But that still doesn't answer the question does it?

the rise in passenger figures from UK regionals does not point to people cutting out breaks, it indicates more people are going away than ever, if you think about it. UK regionals are predominantly outbound markets, so, take this example:

Let's just say a couple goes on 4 short breaks per Anum and 1 big 2 week holiday. That's 10 pax in the system per year.

That couple then decides, as suggested here, money is tight, so go on one big 2 week holiday and perhaps 1 short break, that 4 pax in the system. That would then result in less passengers through the airports and thus negative figures, but, that's not happening, is it, it's the opposite.

So, that's why I originally said that Maybe it just suggests that people want to go elsewhere for their breaks.

EI-A330-300 24th Aug 2017 20:08


Originally Posted by LAX_LHR (Post 9871903)
But that still doesn't answer the question does it?

the rise in passenger figures from UK regionals does not point to people cutting out breaks, it indicates more people are going away than ever, if you think about it. UK regionals are predominantly outbound markets, so, take this example:

Let's just say a couple goes on 4 short breaks per Anum and 1 big 2 week holiday. That's 10 pax in the system per year.

That couple then decides, as suggested here, money is tight, so go on one big 2 week holiday and perhaps 1 short break, that 4 pax in the system. That would then result in less passengers through the airports and thus negative figures, but, that's not happening, is it, it's the opposite.

So, that's why I originally said that Maybe it just suggests that people want to go elsewhere for their breaks.

Less trips, more price sensitive people i.e a trip to Barcelona will likely be less than one to Dublin so you can s

FR have also taken capacity out because of the daa spat and this has lead to less 9.99 fares for example which would drive a lot of volume and those looking for a cheap deal.

EI-BUD 24th Aug 2017 22:18

Aer Lingus regional are not as exposed to a declining inbound market to Ireland from the UK as others are, I would suggest. There work is significant in feeding pax IRL UK from US and vice versa...when I've flown to GLA or EDI with them a big portion of the passengers are ex US...

AerRyan 24th Aug 2017 23:34

No more inbound from NCL with the new schedule anyway.

PPRuNeUser0176 26th Aug 2017 23:47

WOW increase from 9 to 11 weekly next summer (14 May).

TBH I am a little surprised growing so well, one wonders if 2 daily will be the limit? and will Icelandair will start at some stage?

AerRyan 27th Aug 2017 12:25

11 to 14pw from May next year apparently.

Ryanair also supposedly announcing summer schedule on TUE.

PPRuNeUser0176 27th Aug 2017 14:32


11 to 14pw from May next year apparently.
Differently 9 to 11, it has never operated at 11 weekly this year.


Ryanair also supposedly announcing summer schedule on TUE.
Might be a new route or two but one could already served at DUB.

PPRuNeUser0176 29th Aug 2017 09:59

FR Routes
 
New routes to Munich (2 daily), Stuttgart (1 daily) in addition to Naples already announced for winter.

New routes to Paphas (2 weekly) and resuming Marrakech (2 weekly) in March.

Increase Hamburg to daily and Naples to 5 weekly in summer.

Capacity increased by 450,000 seats next summer.

http://corporate.ryanair.com/news/ry...art/?market=ie

A320.b744 29th Aug 2017 17:49

Rumour has it Cathay Pacific will be launching flights to Dublin. They've currently got a Facebook competition to guess the names of the three 'beer related' destinations that they're launching. It looks like DUB will be joined by BRU and CPH.

Cozy F 29th Aug 2017 22:44

TI figures out today showing a slowdown for Irish tourism in the peak summer with expected decline in British tourists concerningly matched by lower annual visitors from mainland Europe.

PPRuNeUser0176 29th Aug 2017 22:55


TI figures out today showing a slowdown for Irish tourism in the peak summer with expected decline in British tourists concerningly matched by lower annual visitors from mainland Europe.
One month decline out of seven (for Europe) can't really be read into very much. I do agree it is a concern.


Rumour has it Cathay Pacific will be launching flights to Dublin. They've currently got a Facebook competition to guess the names of the three 'beer related' destinations that they're launching. It looks like DUB will be joined by BRU and CPH.
Dallas appears more likely from what I have read.

canberra97 30th Aug 2017 10:25

I think DUB along with BRU and CPH were mentioned because CX have stated that three new European destinations are to be added to their network along with their Facebook page indicating that they will be 'beer' related hence DUB was mentioned and not DFW.

840 30th Aug 2017 10:37

If it's just European and associated with beer, they also have gaps at Munich, Prague, Berlin and Cologne. Are there any other reasons to believe it may be Dublin?

How is the runway for Hong Kong nowadays? I know that previously, it used to be said that a Dublin-Hong Kong route would not be viable as it would not be possible to take full cargo onboard because of the length of the runway in Dublin. Is this still an issue for A350s (as in Cathay's fleet) or 787s?

AerRyan 30th Aug 2017 13:44

Yes however not a major one.

PPRuNeUser0176 31st Aug 2017 09:42

Cathay Pacific have announced 4 weekly service from next June. A350-900.

00.50-06.45 - 11.55-07.05 - Summer
00.15-05.30 - 11.00-07.30 - Winter

owenc 31st Aug 2017 10:08

Congratulations Dublin! Maybe use it in a while.

seanwd94 31st Aug 2017 11:30


Originally Posted by owenc (Post 9878263)
Congratulations Dublin! Maybe use it in a while.


Do you think news of the Hong Kong flights will increase the chances of a Tokyo announcement?

Wycombe 31st Aug 2017 11:32



Cathay Pacific have announced 4 weekly service from next June. A350-900.

Would that be the longest direct scheduled flight off Dublin's current runway infrastructure?

BFS101 31st Aug 2017 11:35

Brilliant news!! Now fingers crossed for Beijing

Noxegon 31st Aug 2017 18:12


Originally Posted by Wycombe (Post 9878357)
Would that be the longest direct scheduled flight off Dublin's current runway infrastructure?

Yes – it's further than LAX which was the longest previously.


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