BFS Watcher has a point, passenger numbers at DUB are only a miserable 6% higher than 2016. I wonder if they will still need the emergency temporary boarding area under construction beside terminal 2. If you look back at passenger stats over the last 20 years just 3 years had double digit year on year growth most recently 2015/2016 the rest was between 5-8%. |
Was trying to make the point to BFS Watcher that 6% growth is a clear sign of success, no matter how you look at it.
6% growth heaped on top of 10% (?) growth in 2016 is hardly grounds for shadenfreude from Aldergrove. |
Originally Posted by j636
(Post 9796354)
BFS Watcher, you do realise BFS faces the exact same problems......
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Much deeper problems than currency you know.
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Double-digit growth and growth that massively fluctuates are generally signs of a small airport. At Dublin's current scale, neither is hugely likely.
If Aer Lingus/Ryanair were to add and A320/B737 at Cork or Shannon, they are likely to get double-digit growth (and more than likely no growth the following year as another airframe is very unlikely). If the same happens in Dublin it may add 1% to the figures. |
Ni is a price sensitive market so we are seeing growth because we are introducing carriers who produce lower costs and more affordable flights. I don't see why the growth couldn't stay if we had more of this.
I think Norweigan is what we need for TATL, for example, rather than United. |
Originally Posted by owenc
(Post 9796601)
Ni is a price sensitive market so we are seeing growth because we are introducing carriers who produce lower costs and more affordable flights. I don't see why the growth couldn't stay if we had more of this.
I think Norweigan is what we need for TATL, for example, rather than United. |
Originally Posted by Paul_from_Dublin
(Post 9796452)
BFS Watcher has a point, passenger numbers at DUB are only a miserable 6% higher than 2016.
I wonder if they will still need the emergency temporary boarding area under construction beside terminal 2. |
Originally Posted by owenc
(Post 9795982)
I've taken Aer Lingus Business Class and it wasn't much different, just a standard flatbed. Infact it was poorer due to the Flight Attendants disappearing for hours mid flight.
Maybe you could give a detailed explanation of your flight and then we could judge. |
Originally Posted by airbourne
(Post 9798701)
What are you expecting from the cabin crew?
Maybe you could give a detailed explanation of your flight and then we could judge. |
Sorry, i'll not ruin your life with my presence.
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Originally Posted by owenc
(Post 9799267)
Sorry, i'll not ruin your life with my presence.
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Unfortunate timing for the new QR route with the political situation there, hope the daily frequency can be sustained initially.
Any news on the rumored Hainan China route? |
Originally Posted by BFS watcher
(Post 9796339)
Er you do realise that BFS is advertising for passengers from Irish Republic......... As for tourism numbers being down, car hire agency used in BFS said that 50% of the cars they are hiring out for longer than 2 days are being used by people who will cross the border. Site manager's assessment was that reduction of visitors from UK will have a 3 month lag from Dublin to Belfast but it will follow on from it and numbers will be down. Parting shot was maybe there will be an uplift from Tory politicians crawling to the DUP. I am presuming the grass being tunred and uplifted at the airport yesterday was being turned into sileage. |
Originally Posted by racedo
(Post 9801344)
Belfast Airport aims ?Bexit? campaign at travellers from Republic
Er you do realise that BFS is advertising for passengers from Irish Republic......... As for tourism numbers being down, car hire agency used in BFS said that 50% of the cars they are hiring out for longer than 2 days are being used by people who will cross the border. Site manager's assessment was that reduction of visitors from UK will have a 3 month lag from Dublin to Belfast but it will follow on from it and numbers will be down. Parting shot was maybe there will be an uplift from Tory politicians crawling to the DUP. I am presuming the grass being tunred and uplifted at the airport yesterday was being turned into sileage. Then there's the potential terrorist issues affecting US Transfer visitors' perception of UK, France, Europe as a whole. Then there's the UK economy itself. Various experst claimed it would go off a cliff immediately after Brexit vote, didn't happen. And yet new mortgage approvals are drastically down in last quarter, a worrying sign. Who do we belive eh? Weak sterling? Positives and negatives, all depends how it pans out. Would cut number of UK vistors looking to EU and North America, but would greatly appeal to pax inbound to UK from these markets, as well as making UK tourists look east to weaker currencies. I'm certainly not willing to bet on how things will look in 2 years, that's for sure. |
Drop in Great Britain tourism won't affect us. We have back/forth relationship since we are in the same country and use GBP not Euros.
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Originally Posted by owenc
(Post 9801532)
Drop in Great Britain tourism won't affect us. We have back/forth relationship since we are in the same country and use GBP not Euros.
On picking up I counted approx 10 cars with ROI plates in hire car drop off area who clearly had 1 way car hires and using BFS to fly from. The idea that BFS is immune is laughable. I and friends could just as easily used Dub but we needed to be in a specific place flying from BFS early and we pretty much spent time all our in ROI. On other occasions BFS will not be suitable. |
I'm specifically referring to flying not car hire.
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Originally Posted by owenc
(Post 9802267)
I'm specifically referring to flying not car hire.
Suprised at the stats I have spoken with number of different rental agencies and they view it that a flight of circa 170 people coming into UK and Ireland smaller airports that 60% of passengers are returning residents or to family, Of the remaing 70 odd tourists there is an expect conversion factor of 20% i,e circa 14 cars rented, sometimes high as 30% sometimes lower but that is the conversion factor. Rental agencies see the reduction in tourism numbers very quickly as their car fleets do not move. As I said Belfast had lots of ROI registered cars there and last time dropped off in Dublin there were prob 3-4 NI cars at the off site rental place for just one agency, |
SEN-DUB recommences on the 29th October 2017 with 18 weekly flights by Flybe/Stobart Air
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