Monarch -2
 

Previous thread Here

:ooh: Thanks for that. Does the arrival of these 2 additional 321s tie in with the routes already announced for summer 2007 or is there room for further route expansion once they've entered the fleet?

FlyZB, you will find it's 3 more A321 to join the fleet.
OZBM & OZBN in March & OZBO in May.
You will find that even though OZBM is painted it is not with Monarch and not registered as OZBM.
It is in storage at EMA, with the aircraft leasing company that own it.
Two of the A321s replace two B757s that were used last summer flying schedule ZB flights.
All B757s are flying in charter config this summer, with one a/c as a spare to cover the Schedule and Charter fleets.
Hope this clears everything up:ok:

I understood there were 5 aircraft based at Luton to cover the increased schedules from May.

Not until thay can find some newer vellly cheap ones :hmm:

MON don't have a great reputation for paying for quality, hence the baby bus fleet:} , although mayby the 787 is a change of heart, that is until they sell the production slots and buy crappy old A330-200's :hmm:

You can't sell the production slots, they belong to the producer not the customer. Title for the goods doesn't pass until the last cent has been paid.

So EVA got some 767's after they were paid for?

I think those 767's that went to eva where initially owned by Monarch and leased to eva!

My point exactly, in essense MON sold the rights to EVA, through a lease arrangement. It remains to be seen if we do the same again with the 787..early airframe slots will be worth a pretty penny:ooh:

a bit confused... how many aircraft do ZB operate under the Scheduled brand? i suppose all the A321s will be for scheduled ops and how many more?

Fx

321/320 fly most of the ZBs, however, 757/300s can also be found on the way to Spain.

fx-85ms
For this Summer all A320 & A321 will be used for ZB flights, as they have reduced seating for the ZB flights.
However A300, A330 will be operating some ZB flights during the summer and l hear the B767 may be also.
The B757 may fill in for the odd ZB flight, but they are back to charter config this summer and one a/c is a back-up a/c for the summer.
The A320 & A321 may also fly the odd charter rotation as well, especially at night.
Hope this is of help.:ok:

As per last summer - all BHX charter flight will be operated by A321

-BHXboy-

Bhx - Alc
 

Flying with them lots this summer since the demise of last years regular (FlyBe) I must say that on that route last summer on the occasional ZB trip I was impressed with the turnout of the A/C in comparison with the BE flights I used.

Will it be the same aircraft this summer down to ALC ? I now no longer fly anywhere much to ALC since my family moved down there so I am not seeing much variety on the aircraft.

General Praise .. . .
 

. . . . . where its due.

(I am not a Monarch employee BTW)

This Fri out / Sunday return flight to ALC was one of the best I have had.

They (MON) are a cut above the other LCC I use to ALC.

The aircraft (A320) was exceptionally well turned out (I paid the extra £15 for 3C) and the extra legroom was nice but the other seats looked to have a better pitch than others carriers and were in good really good condition. The leather seats were much better than recently experienced on other carriers and the CC seemed very experienced, organised, coureous and well . . . . just nice !!

Free papers, free used of clean new headphones and IFE make all the difference. (even hot hand / face towels for all pax)

5 minute early departure, 10 minute early land and the pilot did one of those "are we down yet" landings - probably scrubbed the tyres as a result though

To be honest I couldn't tell the difference cost wise with the other BHX and CVT LCC's but it was really impressive.

:cool:Praise where it is due

Shame they treat their crews with contempt, a pay frezze followed by a £25 M & S voucher and a crap luggage tag as a christmas bonus,that can be found on ebay in vast numbers.

General Praise ....
 

Must say I echo CVTDog's praise.

I travel ZB two to three times each year to Faro and every flight is the same. Excellent punctuality, clean and comfortable aircraft, friendly and efficient CC and good selection of surprisingly good food.

CVTDog & TSR2...
 

You will find a lot of people who use ZB echoing your praise, myself included. For an LCC, whos prices match those of LS, WW, U2 etc, their overall service and passenger experience is superior to any of their rivals which is why people choose to fly with them on a regular basis. Ask for the opinions of passengers using Monarch charter (MON) as part of a package tour though and you'll find that the feedback won't be so good, particularly for long haul. I've said it a few times before and I'll say it again, is it time for Monarch to ditch their charter operations in favour of an all scheduled (LCC) service?

monarch are the best to fly with
 

Monarch are the best airline to fly with out of bhx i would say. The ZB service is outstanding as is the MON flights. Would not fly with anyone else has to be monarch for me all the time. The cabin crew are friendly and look after you well, my mother is nervous flyer and the cabin crew are always on hand to put her mind at rest, The aircraft are always clean and the seats are really comfy aswell for airline seats the meals are great also.

The flights always leave on time or early i wonder if that has something to do with good relantionship they have with there ground handlers who I believe are called "swissport"?.

Keep up the good work monarch you tick all the right boxes for me.

Why would Monarch ditch the charter work? Utter madness, once the contract is signed with the charterer it is money in the bank. The schedule market is far harder to make money in.

As far as charter airlines go they are much like any other.

What is planned for MAN this Summer,

The usual 2 757's 2 x A300 5 + A320/1 1 P/time A330?

I didn't see the A330 much last Summer at MAN.

Regards.

6 A320/321 & 1 B757, the rest not sure about.
I think 2 A300, with both B767 & A330 putting some appearances in.:ok:

Thanks - Mr@ spotty m, It would be nice to see the 767 more regular, The MON colours suit the machine.

Do you know how long G DIMB is planned to be operated for?

It would be nice to see more MON 767's.

Regards.:ok:

Should be another 3 years for G-DIMB.:ok:

Higher prices?
 

Went to book our flights to ALC later this year. Spotty were charging around £500 for the three of us, Orange price was about £250 including insurance....absolute no brainer. Plus, Orange flies more than once a day from LTN.

Moan over

For the prices to be so high the MON flight must be almost full so making a good profit on it.

Evanelpus, Does the insurance cover flight canx by Easy for what ever reason.
In other words, do they pay for your flights with another carrier, if no seats are available on other Easy flights, due next flights being full?

With the merger between Mytravel / Thomas Cook and more consolidation forecast, what is the future for the Monarch Group ?
Will they go on the offensive and buy another operator to strengthen there position, ( but who ? ) or are they more likely to get swallowed by perhaps TUI, First Choice or XL ?
As a third option, might they expand the scheduled sevices and become even more oriantated to the independant traveller at the expense of the charter operations.
Anyone any thoughts as to how they might align themselfs ?
H.U.

well as an ex employee I dont think monarch will ever be up for sale. They have been going on there own for years and think it will continue that way. As they are privatley owned and not a plc. I dont think the owners need the money. As for buying into other companies again its something that they have never done and doubt this will change. Thats my opinion though so u never know?

To quote someone else also in Monarch "In January MONARCH celebrated its 40th Anniversary. It is also the longest surviving airline name in the UK. They must be doing something right.":D

Rumour is that they are about to make a bid for a major cargo operator.

"Rumour is that they are about to make a bid for a major cargo
operator."

Do tell us more!!??

What Monarch will do is what Monarch has been doing. Gradually shift its operation from charter to scheduled. Been going on for 10+ years now, and very successfully.

Best of luck to them:ok:

Long term schedule
 

I have taken a chance that the prices wont come down and booked Christmas (22/12 - 1/1) for £175 with a reserved seat both ways. Also Easter (Sat to Sat) for a similar (lower) amount.

I hope my faith in the "school / big holiday - book early" mantra will pay off ! Just about held up for this year and I didnt loose out - but there is always a chance it can go wrong :} .

I know its a long way out but I think it will be worth it in the long run - even though they are holding my money for so long

No mention of the old A300 on here.I suppose it will be doing its usual long shorthaul this summer.How they get away with some of the seating never ceases to amaze me.:} :}

Monarch are definately doing "something right". Been flying them frequently on LTN-MAH for 12 years and every flight has been a pleasure, although the food isn't quite as good as it was in the good old days of "Crown Service". Long may Spotty M continue as one of the UK's best airlines.

Hello FTP

Monarch's 767 has a Premium cabin at the front but no seatback TV's.
They are Digi-players that are fixed to the seat in front.
(Given out after departure).....There is no Skymap on this though but a selection of movies and programmes.

I have found the following photo on Jetphotos.net of the premium cabin.
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5755848

The leg-room is quite ample too and the service is good.

Hope this info helps......
BM

Aberdeen Malaga Route Monarch
 

anyone know why monarch are pulling out of aberdeen malaga route ? do you think it could be due to globe span doing the same route in november. Its a shame everyone i have talked to sing monarchs praises :(

I can imagen its either down to better passenger figures at another airport like LGW or BHX where they have been doing very well recentally and low passenger figures at ABZ or they want to put the aircraft somewhere else for expansion from other airports which I have to say Monarch need...

Time will tell...

I think it is to with having to position crew to AGP which wont be cheap and also this year GSM have appeared at ABZ and there is now many additional 'sun bound' options than there were out of ABZ. GSM will also be AGP through the winter but only once a week. Sat I think

Monarch aberdeen
 

Was reading somewhere , monarch have said the route was longer viable, but if like at BLK , they were running a succesful route , They even said theirselves, it was very popular, until they mucked up the timings,plus with the arrival of Jet2 at BLK, I guess they thort they could do better elsewhere, pity, cause i like monarch and alot of people said how good the service was, Just nobody wanted to fly out at 9.30pm, strange how the 7/8 am flights was a huge success:ugh: