ZB Delays?
 

I've noticed over the last month or so some big ZB delays into MAN on one or two flights a day. Today, 699 seems to be the one that's had the fickle finger of fate and is showing up as expected 7h 15 late.

Is a 321 missing or something?

It seems every one of their departures are deleyed today. My parents were hoping to be on their way to agp 3hrs ago, but still stranded in T1. They're subbing flights out on Thomsonfly, Flightline & Hellas

The Agp's gone on the 330 this afternoon :O

Yes they are a A321 down and a A300 down, all on "C" Checks.
Flightline are being used this week to cover for the A321.
The A300 is being covered by a TUI B767-200, but pulled out of today's sub due to TUI's own problems.
An A300 will be out for most of this month.:{

The Malaga went on the AB6 this afternoon 3hrs late. Not been a good few days for monarch

Monarch have NOT had a based aircraft at Glasgow for the past 10 years.
There has been regular once weekly summer only flights to AGP+/- ALC with the EDI based aircraft, with short series flights to SFB.

Come on Tim stay with us...:ugh:

Think MON/ZB are going through what XLA went through about 4 years ago.:mad:

OZBS is due anytime isn't it????

No, not due into service until end of August, delivery mid August.
Mon just not having a good start to the Summer season, with tech issues, just one of those things.:{
Hopefully all the bad luck has happened in just the one month, did not start well with steps hitting a B757 on the first day down route.
At least ZB don't cancel flights, like other airlines do at the drop of a hat, they may combine or delay flights and will sub in to cover an emergency.:ok:

I agree with you SpottyM, if there is a ZB cancellation (one ACE showed up as cancelled last week) there's normally a pretty good reason for it and it always seems to be a last resort cancellation.

I know it's a bit early to start thinking about summer 09 but I'm just wondering whether or not a similar overall ZB/MON schedule as this year can be reliably operated when MONB and NE go off to Fedex, with NC and ND not far from retirement either, and just BS to come (so far) as a replacement.

I would guess that the ZB routes will be about the same, as the B757 are now in charter config only.
I know that all the fleets operate the odd ZB during the summer including A300 and B757s all without the extra leg room seats, but the ZB fleet is the A320/321s.
Only time will tell, but at the moment NC & ND will be around for a year or two yet.
The ACE flight might have been a MON flight and not due to operate just yet.:ok:

Err...actually the 757s were modified for the ZB operation to allow extra legroom sales at the front of the aircraft. They used to be in charter config when they were 235 config, then 2 of them got changed to 213 config for ZB before they all went back to 235 and then the decision was made to make them ZB-able again by taking out a row and re-spacing the first 4 rows if memory serves correctly?

Bromley Tour Operations or Monarchs owners have rebranded the whole company as the Monarch Travel Group.

The package holiday side 'Cosmos' is now called Monarch Holidays and over the next 12 moths will be dramatically adapted to follow the trent set by Jet2Holidays, to take advantage of the scheduled flight operations combined with dynamic packages.

This will spell the end of Monarch Charter at bases such as Manchester and Gatwick as their entire leisure operation will be based on the scheduled network, with the exception of destinations such as Egypt and Florida which will still be generally sold of the 7 or 14 night options.

So interesting times ahead for Monarch, this confirms that all the 757's will be phased out for more of the Airbus variants for the scheduled operations.

Does this mean the scheduled market will be grown? ie) MAN-Greek islands etc. or will these remain 7/14 nights?

Also, LPA is not a scheduled destination from MAN - assuming it will become one?

Good question, as no specific destinations have been mentioned yet, I have only been given access to the corporate branding and future direction of the business not great specifics.

Not that i'm comparing Jet2 and Monarch, but they are becoming more and more similar. Jet2 offer Herlaklion and Paphos with twice weekly rotations so you can get a good range of 4,5,7,10,11,14 combinations with Jet2Holidays so I am assuming that Monarch will go down that route with the *majority* of its routes. There are always routes which will be dominated by packages rather than seat only sales but personally I expect Monarch in a few years time to be completely scheduled with fully dynamic packages much like Jet2 & Jet2Holidays.

A320 fan.

I can't work out whether you are being serious or not. Sure COSMOS is changing name but why does that mean the Boeings are going? A lot of charter routes are beyond the 320/321 range. Think you are a bit confused!!

No the 757's won't be rushing off, The 787 is now 3 years late:hmm:

4 757's going next year. Replacements to be announced.

It will be a sad day when 4 757's go.:sad:

Take MONB, Longtime workhorse since 83, Sadly cannot drive forever, But will be hard to find another MONB.

I bet it could land on PMI's 24 blind. LOL:D

Like our BYAD, another longtime workhorse, Built 92 And EROPS equiped.:D

Yeah 4 75's definitely going and 3 brand new 321s which GB/EZY do not require. Deliveries start in winter i think.

And i've heard the 76 will be dry leased somewhere?

Hell every base has a different rumor. In MAN were definitely getting 2 more 330s and in LGW we're buying out XL!!

Who knows! :}

Well up to last week, only two B757s going this year as no replacement B757s available at the costing we want, due to operational costs on other two are low.
No A330s available either and B767 lease is wet and not dry.
As l said this was the situation last week, but who knows and yes l do know that Easyjets A321s are available and have been since the new year.

There might be quite a few new a/c available on the market in the next few weeks with United and Continental grounding a few?

UA are only grounding B737 and B747's

What will this mean for EDI, were the main tour operator on flights is Airtours/Thomas Cook, and indeed other 3rd party work MON do?

"airhumberside" MON put the aircraft where the work is, hence two in DUB this summer.
It always depends on how much the likes of TCX/MYT do in house and how much they off load to MON and other airlines.

So with this new scheduled strategy for current in house Cosmos charters, MON would still do 3rd party charters, assusming they aren't done in house by the client (e.g. TCX at EDI)? Or in other words Monarch will still do charter?

Around 40% of Monarchs work is still in charter work and l guess will still continue for many years to come, think about what the B787s are for, when they turn up some time in the next decade.
On the Cosmos front, if you Google you will end up at Monarch Holidays, but if you put into your browser "cosmos-holidays" you will still get Cosmos.
So it is a branding issue to sell more Cosmos holidays and link every thing to the group and make it easy for Joe public.

Zb 737
 

Hi guys,

Does anyone know what aircraft operates the ZB737 into LGW from AGP on Friday 20th June.

I thought the A300 operates that one, but the seat plan looks like an A330 for that day, but am unsure.

If anyone can help or confirm, would be much appreciated.

Cheers.

Seems to be scheduled as a A321, but as you say the configuration is different.

It is however, an A300 if my eyes are correct. If you look there is no row eight when selecting a seat. When looking at the A330 seat map there is no row 7, the A300 is missing a row 8.

So looks like it is to be an A300!:ok:

Monarch Aircrft
 

After being at Manchester today i happen to notice that 3 different Monarch flights were operated by aircraft hired from other operators and one charter being Mon1217 arrived over 18 hours late from Zakynthos,
Is there a sudden shortage of company aircraft or have Monarch just won too much work this season to be able to cope? :rolleyes:

Don't know specifically about now, however I have done sub-service for Monarch before, and it was usually for unserviceable aircraft or aircraft delayed out of heavy maintenance.
Also, I must say...Monarch has one of the best flight dispatch departments that I have come across in over forty years of airline flying...Monarch, top-notch folks.:ok:

the deleyed zante flight was due to the earthquake greece had yesterday, monarch had a few flights nightstop in greece before returning home. Most of monarchs sub-charters are due to tech aircraft.

Plus an A300-600 out
 

They don't seem to have allot of luck, one of their A300 blew a tyre on landing in CFU this morning. It went with a bang, locals thought it was another earthquake....!!!!:cool:

and other two zb's go late...
 

they're not having luck at all, especially not in Manchester,

ZB660 Malaga has just pushed back just over 3 hours late and ZB676 Alicante has just pushed 1hr and 20 late.

Isn't it strange that Gatwick or any other base isn't getting any other delays worth mentioning, looks like Manchester gets all the trouble to cope with again. I wonder if the great Mr. Brown would let this happen on his doorstep at LTN? mmm... i think not...

As much look as anyone else:ugh:

except Brown's back door isnt LTN :(:(:(

G-FFFC - 'ACARSD' is your friend.

Every movement is there.:ok:

True, I just hope LTN continues to be TOM's backyard for the future.:D

A large part of the FP is done in 'Tui Land' Germany now.

May be its the MAN aircraft that are going tech, which is why the delays are at MAN.
Two Subs are to cover a A300 which is on a planned "C" check, they are using a 767-200 of TUI and the overspill on the second aircraft.
As pointed out MON were short due an a/c stuck in ATH overnight on its way to ZTH, plus an EFL operating today from yesterdays flying program, due to the quake.
As pointed out the A300 in CFU will not of helped.

BYAB running around for MON.

CFU flight was not too delayed in the end.

Titan operated two of MON's MAN flights yesterday.

LGW ops over the last week, have not been free of problems either.