which are the KLM planes that don't let you take trolley type hand luggage on?

Before the F50's were retired they used to make you leave them at the bottom of the stairs when boarding.

thanks, though I won't be using AMS for long haul any more, thank God.

Ash666

KLM aircraft that require Trolley Bags to be left at the aircraft stairs for delivery at the Aircraft in AMS are the Fokker 70 and 100.

Same for Air France, Lufthansa and SN Brussels at Ncl!

Any one know who the Titan 763 was operating for at NCL today?

earlyriser.
Thanks for that and it still means 50% of KLM flights do that. I managed to bypass the request(I know, naughty boy!) with an AF flight and I could, indeed, get my trolley bag in the overhead locker. It's a real pain, especially when you are on a short transfer as is oh so often the case(or at least was for me) with the time keeping of KLM.

Got to presume that this results in a significant drop in number of seats available ?
Is this a strategic change or just further evidence of lack of interest in the North East ?:(

or Emirates nicking their hub traffic?

I notice the airports' website has changed the timetable information from the old detailed kind with timings and aircraft type and operator to a list of destinations, days and the parent airline and telling you to refer to the airline for times (at least for Winter Scheduled anyway) which is a bit lazy imo!

Teeing myself up for my first Jet2 experience when I return back to Newcastle with work next week.

Any airside changes lately? Shopping, Bars etc?

I understand that the change from the excellent monthly timetable to the format available now was a cost saving measure.

Crikey, it must only save about £1.50p. Are they that desperate?

It's bizarre isn't it?

You'd think they'd just copy and past the new info onto the old stuff, I'd imagine the aircraft types don't change that much for the majority of the scheduled stuff

I came across this “New Format” timetable yesterday and found it frustratingly annoying, uninformative, and the link to it misleading.
I hope that someone responsible for what is basically misrepresented as a timetable when all it is in reality is a link to the web sites of others, is reading and taking note.
The really sad thing is that the document presents itself as no more than a copy of a third rate spreadsheet that I would in my business expect that even an office junior to be capable of a producing.
What this really indicates to me is an embarrassing lack of resource and ability within the airports marketing team, who if they are too busy (presumably only explanation to extra cost), then what are they actually achieving?

Boys boys boys do you really think the general public in this day and age really check an airports web sites for time tables??? Yes tell them where and who go there but that's all needed in this computer age!
Plus airlines these days change time/dates etc so oftern during the season far better get up to date info from horses mouth?!

KLM change their objectives all the time for example last year KLM were always the cheapest hub airport from NCL, now this year this has changed for Eastwards travel Emirates seem cheapest most times I've tried! Emirates have not changed fares drastically KLM have, taking less discounted Y fares. So less discount fares less people!!

Flybe - Summer 2011

Hanover reduced from 3 to 2 weekly
Guernsey - withdrawn
Cardiff -withdrawn.

Belfast City
Jersey
Gatwick all of these routes much the same as 2010
Southampton
Exeter
Limoges

That time of month again...CAA provisional stats:

Brussels: 3975 +179%
Copenhagen: 2221 +32%
Paris CDG: 15290 -4%
Dusseldorf: 4177 +97%
Dublin: 11039 +1%
Amsterdam: 22079 -3%
Dubai: 14261 +11% ( if based on A332HD being used 100%, ave loads were 86%).

So for September, 491430 -2.7%

12 months rolling, 4378717 -6%

Some encouraging signs though :ok:

Reminds me of the politicians who deliver ecconomic news based upon the rise & fall of rate of changes, thus on first impession poor news can be softened. Decrease in the rate of falling pax no. is good in that if sustained & extrapolated may suggest growth in the medium term.
For me the background is perhaps a little more worrying, case in point excellent news re Emirates, but can one conclude that this is not simply at the expense of KL/AF?, not withstanding that in addition the monthly total pax no.'s continue to fall. Note the LHR data not stated what is the trend re BA?
My understanding is that in "ball park" terms the airports business model was based upon some 5M pax. p.a. and as such then there are perhaps a number of concessions on the concourse, together with neighboring support services such as hotels who may not be at all happy with the latest batch of statistics.:(

The BA figure was good.
LHR 46,974 up 4%

Speaking of airport hotels, is it nearly completed and signed up (ws it Hilton that wanted it?) or are we talking the same timescale as a JFK daily from NCL :E

Is the 4th TCX a/c another 757, or is it an Airbus?

Its gone very quiet on here lately. Is anything happening at the airport at the moment?

Is the old Greggs unit still vacant? I would have thought that unit would be good for Subway, they have shops in Liverpool and Bristol airports.