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andrewmcharlton 23rd Aug 2010 08:16

Isn't there a chronic shortage of slots at FRA? I suspect that there are other more premium destinations that FRA want to add before NCL anyway.

airhumberside 23rd Aug 2010 09:47

Jet/GVA
 
Have Jet 2 secured a tour operator contract for GVA. Could explain the once weekly frequency and choice of destination

nef 23rd Aug 2010 10:09

Someone on this thread a couple of weeks ago who appears to be in the know said that a new German route would be announced in "a few weeks", so we'll see what happens. I guess you'd need to announce pretty soon for a winter timetable start.

I would think FRA is tight for slots as well, but I think they are building a new runway there at the moment, so that should increase the possibilities for UK regional-FRA flights quite a bit. However, I don't think the new runway will be finished until this time next year?

Jamesair 23rd Aug 2010 10:19

Some other routes I would like to see operate from NCL are, Venice, Berlin,Munich, Lisbon, Milan and possibly Madrid plus Stockholm

ConstantFlyer 23rd Aug 2010 12:12

Re a Newcastle-Norwich flight, having spent 6h40m driving from Norwich to Newcastle yesterday, I'd appreciate one. Air Anglia used to do it in the 1970s en route to Aberdeen.

ReadyToGo 23rd Aug 2010 17:55

I can imagine that Madrid could be a possibility in the next few years when the BA/Iberia merger is complete. I know BA have talked about possible expansion at Madrid, and can imagine a subsidary of BA or IB might give it a shot from a few UK regional airports.

Although maybe not, if it was going to detract customers away from LHR. But I would say its more likely than JFK or Lisbon.

Re: Jet2 to GVA, perhaps its a flight to cater for Jet2's own holdiay company? With seats availiable to the public as well?

Hipennine 24th Aug 2010 08:55

Jet2 -GVA
 
Can't really understand this. The bulk of the self catering accommodation in the French alps and western switzerland is let on a fixed seven day cycle commencing on Saturdays (exception being the quiet periods when J2 aren't operating the service anyway). It's also a bit late in the year to be starting sales of a once per week ski-flight - a large proportion of skiers taking a week will already have made arrangements.

Jamesair 24th Aug 2010 10:00

Interesting comment. I can't help but feel that with EDI/NCL flights being announced at the same time there must be some charter seat deal either with Jet2 Holidays or some other operator involved, with public seat sales being the icing on the cake. I could be wrong of course.

I can't find details of skiing holidays on the Jet2 Holidays website yet.

edilpa 24th Aug 2010 14:02

Jet2 GVA
 
The flight is being shared with EDI doing EDI-NCL-GVA-NCL-EDI so it would seem to me that they trialing it to see if they could get the demand

Jamesair 25th Aug 2010 17:55

Looking at the July Pax figures some routes continue to impress.
Dubai up 16% to 15,169
Brussels up 100% to 3233
Dusseldorf up 37% to 4120 (maybe another frequency needed)
Copenhagen up 17% to 2114 (double daily 2011?)
Amsterdam up 2% to 22,548
Murcia up 10% to 12,555
Limoge up 40% to 538
Split up 42% to 1314 (maybe dropping it next year needs re-investigating)
Tenerife has built to 5809 this month
Malta steady growth now 2404
Dalaman 3,642 (new route)
Monastir 1060 (new route)
Sharm-el-Sheik (new route) 2136

Domestic routes remain very mixed

Aberdeen up 45% to 2286
IOM up 12% to 500 (Manx 2 doing ok)
Newquay/Plymouth, former shows 10% increase at 1142 while the latter shows 1% increase to 1900 (well done Air Southwest)
Belfast City figures not released yet...could be up though.
Guernsey gets off to a 488 start.

All other domestics show falls.

CabinCrewe 25th Aug 2010 18:17

Why would they not drop Split, its not the percentage rise (given the program its being compared against) but the actual passengers carried- which to be honest are pretty low.

fl dutchman 25th Aug 2010 18:28

Jamesair,
Are those figures scheduled flights only not including charter?.

GrahamK 25th Aug 2010 19:59

CabinCrewe, based on 5 return flights during the month, I make the average loads to be 88.2% on the Split flight?

CabinCrewe 25th Aug 2010 21:06

You better get on to the airline and tell them its all a big mistake and home calculated load figures are what count.....:rolleyes:

BAladdy 25th Aug 2010 21:15


Originally Posted by edilpa
The flight is being shared with EDI doing EDI-NCL-GVA-NCL-EDI so it would seem to me that they trialing it to see if they could get the demand

I would have thought such a trial would have been more successful if they also offered the EDI-GVA via NCL between 26th December and 09th January.

I am guessing the EDI-NCL sector is more operational as it will operate using a EDI based a/c and crew from FEB 20th.

Jamesair 25th Aug 2010 22:15

FL DUTCHMAN

The pax figures are for scheduled flights only. Charter pax are shown separately on the CAA website.

CABIN CREWE

The figures show an average of 131 pax per flight, divided by the a/c pax capacity gives the load factor....not really home calculations!

GrahamK 26th Aug 2010 06:02

CabinCrewe, no doubt that it the end of the day it all comes down to how much pax are paying for the flights, and at the end of the day, only the airline knows that.

Re: The Emirates figures...bumped up due to the one off 77W flight, still good numbers though.

ted320 26th Aug 2010 17:54

Does anyone know why todays Thomson flight from Faro diverted to Manchetser (TOM1411)? Am due to take this flight next week!

wanna_be_there 26th Aug 2010 18:00

I *think* there was an issue with one of the engines, but will investigate further.
You need not worry though, as it isnt a regular event so chances are your flight will be quite uneventful.

nclops 26th Aug 2010 18:28

Aircraft had hydraulic problems apparently and is still tech in MAN!


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