Whoa guys!

This is getting silly with handbags at 50 paces and peurile crap and rubbish!

It stops here or the thread and one or two of you will be history.

We are a tolerant mods normally but we are not going to accept slagging and abuse - or racist remarks.

Get a grip! NOW please.

AA&R mods

Well done Mod!!! Couldn't have put it better myself. (Always amazies me how a mod is just round the corner ready to pounce on the bad boys and girls in the play ground!!!)

I (And I think a lot of others) are fed up with the muck throwing....... As SLF it worries me a little that some of these folk are in charge of planes or generally looking after them. Hope they are more sensible in their day jobs ;-)

Lets try and get back on to the subject folks!!!!

Back to my earlier question, any idea why the GLA-SFB flight has ran so late, I see it departed GLA around 10pm

:-(

Not sure if related, but DUB-YYC-YVR is being operated today by the B752, with the BRS-YHM operating with a B738.

See my question on Bristol thread yesterday. The 737 operated a second departure to Toronto(YHM)from Bristol yesterday morning, it departed about an hour and a half after the first scheduled 757 (GSM 182) left,according to the mayfly it came in empty from Gla as GSM 180P and departed to YHM as GSM 181

Deek & Mr
Apologies for my inacurate post. After last set f shifts i was led to think that FG was very close to finishing its "C" check, and would therefore be ready.

MAbye jumped the gun a touch however want prepared for the back lash that followed, Mr, do you just log on here to shoot people down? this will certainly be the last post i put pn here, I love aviation and logged on here to talk to people with the same interest, To say i am dissapointed with the back stabbing by certain posters is an understatement.

Take it easy and fly safe ya all.

Globespaner

with you Globespaner
 

I too am sick of the back stabbing and the very apparent need some people seem to have to put GSM down. I can only assume that they wish the airline to fail.

Remember a lot of people read this forum, being that it is open to anyone and everyone. Spreading rumours and bad news is not big and is not clever. In the current climate we work, a show of support is what is needed. A lot of good men and woman have lost their jobs recently, many of us have friends effected by the loss of XL, zoom etc - turning the knife and willing GSM to go the same way is worrying to say the least.

I am glad thought that you are going to be disappointed as I believe that GSM will be around for a number of years and good luck to them. I have no desire to see any more friends in the industry out of work.

:=

The only people doing Globespan down is GSM themselves. When they continue to operate 737s longhaul & substitute other aircraft or re-route flights on a regular basis , then the customer will decide GSM fate, not PPRUNERs.
I met people in Toronto a few weeks back from Bristol, they would have loved to travel direct from Bristol to Toronto. They had not heard of GSM so they looked them up on Skytrax, where real customers leave real feedback. They immediately booked Air Transat out of Birmingham.
When the Globespanners feel the need to report every on time departure on PPRUNE & then spit feathers at any GSM critisism, then I think its time this thread was wound up, IMHO.
I wish them all the best, but lets stop going around in circles.

CS you have been misinformed JO had twice been booked into ATC Southend but had to be cancelled firstly to support ops then secondly due to an AOG involving JM, the delay in originally fitting was that it was cheaper to have them fitted in UK with boeing paying it the winglets were stored in the ex MDs garden and had been badly corred and had to go to beagle aerospace in bournemouth for repair we further had to wait on long lead time spare parts and off course now with the summer schedule the time could not be found. The winglets are made by aero partners boeing in the USA and take roughly 3-4 days to fit along with software changes to the stab.
Hope this answers your questions.

Need we say more?

Not really I think I said it all, the winglets were in a terrible state with one in particular having been heavily corroded on both the leading edge and water damage to the internal composite material.

I ask again......What on earth is happening with GLA-SFB???

Come on please!! (Not a back stabber or someone who wants GSM to fail!!!!)

BFS
 

seems that the GLA-BFS-SFB wasnt cancelled at all
736P took off EDI at 5:03 PM and landed in BFS at 5:38 PM
and
735 took off BFS at 6:27 PM and landed in GLA at 7.00 PM

Dont know what plane was used but guessing it was a 737-800 was used.

A 767-300 took off from GLA 8:31 PM and should land in SFB at 11:57 PM

:}

Apologies, the B73H did not operate from DUB to Vancouver, it was YHM, and has operated back Tuesday to MAN. The B752 has operated from MAN to YHM Tuesday, and will operate back to GLA/LGW tonight. Not sure what they plan tomorrow

MAN/GLA/YYC/YVR/YYC/GLA/MAN
LGW/GLA/YHM/EDI

As to the EDI/BFS/GLA today it was B736 GCDKT as it was not booked anything from arrival at EDI from 1530 Tue until 0800 Wed

For all you spotters out there! :ok:

The numbers before the "P" of the outbound flight usually gives away the aircraft type!

Can someone shed some light on this for me?

I notice that there was a GSM flight out of GLA to Vancouver which was delayed :-(

But on the Glasgow AIrport website there are 3 flight numbers (GSM941, GSM 941C & GSM 961)

I assume that all these flight numbers are the same plane as they all left GLA at exactly the same time.

Can I ask why so many flight numbers for the same plane?

I know that some of the bigger carriers code share but never seen this like this before.

Sorry if this is a stupid question :-)

Why are GSM having to use 737's across the pond? Is there a problem with the 752 and 763's?

Gsm941/961
 

Dont know what the "C" was for but, having been on that flight, one is for the Calgary flight and the other is for Vancouver. It stops at Calgary on the way out and on the way back.

they combined two flights into one. man-yyc-yvr and gla-yyc-yvr so two different flight numbers, not sure about the 'c' one thou! maybe it was the flight number used for the passengers from manchester when they travelled man-gla on a 737 before ramp transfering?

Is there a problem with the B757/767?

YES!!! THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH OF THEM!!!!!!
:ok:

Pretty hopeful Flyglobespans on the way to profit this year!
Exclusive: Scots airline Flyglobespan on course for profit despite fuel price hike - The Daily Record

Also a mention of aquiring 1 or 2 a/c hopefully theres plans for a 757 and new 737NG or 2 737NGs which if they got i'd guess they would put one into MME.

Try 2 NGs [ -700 and / or -800 ] to become all 73 NG fleet.

As for Teesside, the final decision is getting closer every day !!:uhoh:

can someone explain what an 'NG' is?

I know it is a model of aeroplane (Boeing) but what excatly is it ?

the definite decision is lets see what work we can get and let see if we can piss off our own pax to earn better money and delay them as much as possible, whilst the a/c does 4 sectors before we operate our own schedule! true/false?

NG is new generation. For B737's this means the 600, 700, 800, 900 and 900ER models

Surely, when you see comments, as reported by the Daily Record like...This seems a trifle conceited to me. OK, the GSM balance sheet may look OK at the moment, but just look at Skytrax web-site & see that the customers remain just as p**sed off with GSM as they were last year.
The perception given by these comments, is that GSM don't care what the pax experience is, so long as they make a profit. I'm sure that this is NOT true - but their comments should have been mitigated with some humble acknolwedgement about better customer service in the future IMHO.

agreed. who does Tom Dalrymple think he is? Micheal o leary?:8

AFAIK the commercial argumnets for using a 737 v a B75 or 767 across the pond for around 100 pax is rather convincing ;)

Looks as if GSM are considering kepping the 733's! Maybe MME's being very persuasive.
Flyglobespan

If there kept do you think there will be any aquiring of NG'S?

Perhaps no one wants the 733s. What's the market like for an old 733 with the amount of aircraft being parked up there must be some slack in the system to get a good deal on a lease extension. If I owned a 733 I would rather have it flying than sat in a desert or a damp UK airfield costing parking fees than flying for a few quid less.

There must be a chance to go for it summer 2008 in the UK has been bad so people will want a better chance of something decent in 2009.
I say stick both the 733 into MME advertise like hell avoid the Ryanair ALC route and go for it.

The old saying you must speculate to accumulate, MME catchment where there's muck theres brass.

Good luck if you dare.

I think it could be a good thing if GSM tried the basing of 2 733's at MME again but don't forget there clapped out old things and G-OTDA does have a knack for going tech rather alot!

Though theres a chance GSM might want to use one of those 733's for BCN flights instead of 752 which frees that up. However they might use it on one based and another "w" pattern.

Thats unless ofcourse GSM get NG'S alongside the 733's stayin then most likely the 2 would be based.

Plenty of options lol :ok:

*GSM now top of the board for going bust on PaddyPower, think its a wasted bet or justified?

If tom has placed a bet, I would follow the money. :eek:

Hmm. I mooted this scenario back in August (Post #1052).

I have an idea it may always have been the plan!:ok:

in general, is Globespans fleet or planes old or young? Does anyone know the average age of the fleet?

Not exzactly sure on that one, but i doubt its that old especially if you compare it to the likes of Jet2s fleet!

Just another stab at Jet2 TD has a bigger perosnal wealth of 75m than Jet2 owner Phillip Meeson who only has 40m though i wouldn't mind having that in the bank :) If anybodys interested
Search the Sunday Times Rich List 2008

I have a feeling now anyway that GSM won't leave MME, if they do however they will have a massive backlash from the press after them constantly syaing there not leaving.

Think GSM will ever re-open a base at MAN and take on jet2, bmi etc on sun routes?

hi 4567, if I am not being too personal, and without giving away your identity do you happen to work for Globespan? Just curious. Ta x

Worked for them (past tense). Moved on now but would still like to see them do well and would return to work for them again maybe oneday.

No because they can't make a success of either Stansted or Teesside and the one time they sold tickets from Manchester long haul to Cape Town it didn't go teriibly well.

In airline terms and especially with the cost or fuel being as it is, and not to mention the state of the economy I would suggest the these amounts of money are not alot. (Irrespective of who has hedged fuel etc etc)

Summer 09
 

Currently :

GLA - 3 X 73H - AW,EG & CH, 1 X 763, OD
EDI - 2 X 73H, JO & JP and 1 73G, FC
ABZ - 1 X 73G, JF

PT - DUB/LGW ETC
JM - YHM 'W' PATTERNS

KT has not yet been allocated, MME?

The 733's are still showing leaving the fleet from Feb 09

This is GSM and will most likely change!

Sad to see her go! Photos: Boeing 737-683 Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net

Is KT staying now? Would help if it did.

Think GSM will find S09 harder competition wise especially at EDI with Jet2 squeezing in, easyjet and Ryanair?