MD80 plane crash in Phuket, Sep. 07
 

Sky news are reporting there has been a plane crash at Thailands
Phuket Airport, after attempting to land in heavy rain.
Any gen?

Thai news are reportinr a 12go plane form Bangkok skidding off the runway in heavy rain, breaking into 2 parts and catching fire, after circling 3 times. Nothing else definate at this time.

Sky website is now reporting flight OG 269, an MD-80, operated by One Two Go, 'lost balance' following an attempted go around and has broken into two on landing. No reports of deaths/injuries yet although they are probably to be expected :(

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...284313,00.html

Supposedly 123 pax and 5 crew on board MD-82. Wx conditions at HKT really bad, hard rain and low vis.

VTSP weather

VTSP 161030Z 29011KT 3000 -RA SCT015 BKN110 BKN300 25/24 Q1006 A2973
VTSP 161000Z 27009KT 3000 RA SCT015 BKN110 BKN300 25/24 Q1006 A2973
VTSP 160930Z 27008KT 3000 RA SCT015 BKN110 BKN300 23/22 Q1006 2972
VTSP 160900Z 27012KT 1000 RA SCT015 BKN110 BKN300 24/23 Q1006 2973
VTSP 160830Z 24012KT 4000 SCT015 BKN110 BKN300 26/24 Q1006 A2971 VCSH NW
VTSP 160800Z 27007KT 4000 SCT015 BKN110 BKN300 26/24 Q1006 A2972 VCSH N
VTSP NIL
VTSP 160700Z 33003KT 3000 -RA SCT015 BKN110 BKN300 25/24 Q1007 A2975
VTSP 160630Z 33004KT 3000 -RA SCT015 BKN110 BKN300 25/24 Q1007 A2976

The Nation TV station are reporting UNOFFICIAL quotes from the scene of at least 100 dead.

The plane was attemping to land on runway 09 if that makes any difference.

Yes. Thai TV is also reporting foreigners (Isreali's and Australians) amongst the pax. If the weather there was anything like it was in Bangkok at lunchtime today then it was very bad. Earliest reports mentioned a burst wheel on touchdown leading to the aircraft going off runway. There are alternate airports nearby (Trang and Surat Thani) but Iwould guess the weather was just as bad there too. Bad news.

Local TV is broadcasting live shots from airport and from hospital. Cameras seem to be allowed to follow the injured right inside the hospital in Thailand.
TV reoprts are saying 25 bodies already removed, more still in plane

Stickyb - sadly there is little or no privacy for injured and dead in Thai hospitals or at the scene of accidents. We see the goriest results of road accidents, suicides etc filmed from the Emergency Rooms on TV more or less nightly. Thai's seem to have a morbid interest in death and injury. Pity really - they are such nice people otherwise.

Just looking at TV pics from Phuket now. The aircraft doors are open but I can't see any slides.

Sometimes it cannot be long enough:

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0995911/M/

A survivor has said it seemed the pilot was trying to abort the landing and that no announcements or warnings were given.

If it can be considered possible that there can be good news in this tradgedy, the confusion in news reports appears to be clearing. BBC news have just had a man on the news from Phuket saying that 50 survivors have been taken to hospital, indicating that the death toll may not be as high as initially reported by Reuters. I hope so:(

Yes. I stand corrected. I couldn't remember whether the livery was red on top or underneath and I see the aircraft almost daily as I go past Don Muang on my way to work. Thai TV have been interviewing survivors. There seem to have been some very lucky people, many of whom managed to get out through the break in the fuselage.

Some news coming out of expats in LieLand forum.
It doesn't look good! 1st reports say One-two-Go A/C
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index....owtopic=142829
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index....owtopic=142793

News Asia TV are reporting 60 dead, half non Thai nationals.

Sad news.

At the (very real) risk of being severely savaged for stating this – anyone involved in Thai aviation will not be too surprised about this tragedy.

Whilst wx may well be a factor, today’s was no worst than many other rainy season days.

Maybe worth noting that the REILs were inop on 09 recently.

RWY 27 would be more likely, given the time of year, and the reported weather with winds out of 270 degrees.

VTSP 161030Z 29011KT 3000 -RA SCT015 BKN110 BKN300 25/24 Q1006 A2973
VTSP 161000Z 27009KT 3000 RA SCT015 BKN110 BKN300 25/24 Q1006 A2973
VTSP 160930Z 27008KT 3000 RA SCT015 BKN110 BKN300 23/22 Q1006 2972
VTSP 160900Z 27012KT 1000 RA SCT015 BKN110 BKN300 24/23 Q1006 2973
VTSP 160830Z 24012KT 4000 SCT015 BKN110 BKN300 26/24 Q1006 A2971 VCSH NW
VTSP 160800Z 27007KT 4000 SCT015 BKN110 BKN300 26/24 Q1006 A2972 VCSH N
VTSP NIL
VTSP 160700Z 33003KT 3000 -RA SCT015 BKN110 BKN300 25/24 Q1007 A2975
VTSP 160630Z 33004KT 3000 -RA SCT015 BKN110 BKN300 25/24 Q1007 A2976

Any confirmation they were landing 09 yet?

Strange decision given the westerly wind and ILS on 27.

.. they hit something hard at that tree line :(
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Flight deck windows (eybrow) visible on top mid section fuse in the photo link at top of this page

some people are saying a go around attempted , others a blown tire, others that the plane skidded off the runway...

does this sound at all like little rock?

Was the A/C a vintage MD80?

supposedly an md82...can only guess it was an earlier one...perhaps 25 years old but no real data

Public Radio is reporting 66 deaths confirmed so far. The story says the crew were attempting a go around when they crashed.

from a blogger
 

A surviving Thai passenger said the plane "landed hard" and "bounced" and then skidded off the runway. Civil aviation official Chiasak Angkauwan said, "the airplane requested to land but due to the weather in Phuket -- strong wind and heavy rain -- maybe the pilot did not see the runway clearly."

"The plane then fell onto the runway and broke into two. It is expected that there will be a lot of casualties."

"We are rescuing people from the aircraft ... we know now there were 123 passengers and five crew," he told the news channel.

"We won't know what really happened until we get information from the black box."

Very sad to hear....:sad:

I understand that two cabin crew have survived....no word on the thrid CC and the two pilots.

Condolences to those who lost loved ones.

I have a lot to say having worked there in the past, but here is not the place. I hope good things come out of this unfortunate event.

Heavy...

Apparently both pilots survived: (Go to picture 4 and read the caption)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/6997598.stm

could the spoilers have deployed and then it bounced?
 

if this happened, the second touchdown would have been rather hard.

do any photos show the position of thrust reversers, spoilers?

so, it seems that we have another plane skidding off a runway? like TAM airbus it was during rain.

unlike TAM airbus, this is not a fly by wire plane.

according to one person on this forum the runway was 9600feet long and that is pretty long...about 3000 feet longer than the TAM crash.

anyone in thailand know for a fact if the runway lights were on? (even if this was in daylight, runway lights can really help during rain)

CNN -- Thailand's health ministry says 87 people died in an airline crash Sunday in Phuket, and 43 people survived.

of interest
 

I've just seen a 10-9 chart for this airport...more than 9000 feet after a glideslope touchdown...though one end is at 82 feet, the other at 19 feet (threshold of 27 at 82 feet msl)

a low level windshear system is installed...

IT IS IMPORTANT to find out for sure which direction the plane was landing...even though it might make sense to land on 27 due to winds...it is something we need to find out FOR SURE.

ILS only on 27...PAPI ON BOTH but 3.2 degree on 27 I think (correct me if i am mistaken please)

sad...


by the way, there is a small over run on each end and I don't think that this runway will be the problem...it looks like a pretty good, more than long enough runway...the plane may not have gone off the end...more details I hope will be forthcoming

Looking at the BBC pictures it looks like they veered right and hit the rising ground below the tower.
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/image...577_picsix.jpg
This picture shows the high ground to the south of the taxiway
http://www.thaiflyingclub.com/images...portPhuket.JPG
There is a small road that runs outside the perimeter fence alongside the southern taxiway. Heavy rain is very normal in Phuket and most pilots accept it is part of the routine of operating in this area.
This the the approach plate for the airfield.
http://www.thaiflyingclub.com/images...huketAppch.JPG

published report of "go around"
 

there is a published report that the pilot had radioed and indicated he was going around.

certainly to be taken with a grain of salt, but if there was microburst etc the go around could have ended up on the runway

recall that a dc9 in charlotte was going around and then went down due to microburst some dozen years ago or more.

PASSENGER MANIFEST
123 passengers on board Flight OG 269, operated by airline One-Two-Go

* denotes those who have been confirmed survived or hospitalised.

1.Mr Werner Adelhardt
2.Ms Lily Alon
3.Mr Alain Bembaron
4.Mrs Brigitte Bino
5.Mr Itzhak Biton
6.Mr Alexius Boerkamp*
7.Mr Jeanmarie Bonachera
8.Mrs Josiane Bonachera
9.Mr Chawapon Boonmeechai
10.Mrs Wanaporn Boonsung
11.Mr Robert Borland*
12.Mr Philippe Bregeard
13.Mr William Burke*
14.Mr Sinchai Chaiarun
15.Mr Jakkapon Chairitinanon
16.Mr Parinyawith Choosang*
17.Mr Alexander Collins
18.Mr Chirstopher Cooley*
19.Mr Jesada Dechakul
20.Mr Colin Denny
21.Mrs Sawitree Denny*
22.Ms Hofit Eliya
23.Mr Christoph Falchetti*
24.Mr Michael Falcone
25.Mrs Mahsa Fatoorehchi*
26.Ms Arisa Fayad
27.Ms Tal Feldman
28.Ms Isabella Freylikhman*
29.Mr Vladimir Freylikhman*
30.Ms Anne Furlong*
31.Mrs Laetitia Gambu
32.Ms Hila Gershoni
33.Mr Saeid Ghayoumi
34.Ms Sansa Ghayoumi
35.Mr Scott Harrow*
36.Ms Madia Hashemi*
37.Mr Parviz Hashemi*
38.Mr Peter Hill*
39.Mrs Susan Howell
40.Mrs Sara Izadine
41.Chawit Jitjamnong*
42.Mr Chowalert Jitjamnong*
43.Mrs Siriphut Jitjamnong
44.Mr Alireza Jodatfar
45.Mr Jahangir Jodatfar
46.Mr Mohammadreza Jodatfar
47.Ms Bethan Jones
48.Mr Simon Jonsson
49.Ms Khatha Kanchanasutha
50.Mrs Ladda Khawnoun*
51.Mr Nong Khawnoun*
52.Mr Nasser Bonab
53.Ms Mehrana Movahed*
54.Mr Abbas Movahed*
55.Ms Mullika Koysin
56.Mr Chakart Kulwanich
57.Ms Pratin Lainjumroon*
58.Mr Thibaud Lamere
59.Mr Sudprasong Laosiriwut
60.Mr Likhit Liengphansakul*
61.Ms Fermina ******e
62.Mr Henri ******e
63.Mr Chainarong Maharae*
64.Mr Porrawit Mahasup*
65.Mr Teerayuth Manoorakchinakorn
66.Mr Christopher Markensven*
67.Mr Jacques Marnef
68.Ms Kaninnat Martmuang
69.Ms Wantana Meesang
70.Ms Amnuj Meesil
71.Ms Maryam Taheri*
72.Ms Mojgan Mohebbianjedani
73.Ms Fereshteh Mokhlesukhchi
74.Mr Brain Mullery
75.Mr Di Naima
76.Ms Rotem Naouri
77.Mr Erik Nihler
78.Mr John O'Donnell*
79.Mrs Homeira Omdeekhodaitehrani
80.Mrs Pranee Panyakong
81.Mr Paiboon Phaphan*
82.Mr Sanya Phromarak
83.Mr Rasqul Pourmehr
84.Mr Mahmoud Pourmehr
85.Mr Suchip Prantoon
86.Ms Puengboon Ratnadilok na Phuket
87.Mr Raj Rattanaphon
88.Ms Claudia Rothmann*
89.Mr Clemens Rothmann*
90.Mr Pichai Rueathong
91.Mr Mehoi Safaebtabrizi
92.Ms Cho Safaebtabrizi
93.Mr Hossein Safaebtabrizi
94.Mr Thanavut Saikay
95.Ms Fahimeh Salek
96.Ms Linnea Sandberg
97.Ms Patcharin Sattayapongsaporn
98.Mr Stephen Saunby
99.Ms Busakon Saunjarun
100.Ms Sabine Schumacher
101.Ms Supalak Shueaw
102.Mrs Benchawan Sichaiin
103.Mr Witchupol Singhapol*
104.Mrs Helen Slater
105.Mr Neil Slater
106.Mr Marcel Squinobal*
107.Mr Chatree Suksawas*
108.Mr Somphot Sungkhaphong
109.Ms Jiranuch Suwannarat
110.Mr Farshas Tazhibi
111.Mrs Yajai Thanyakarn
112.Ms Rachel Toland
113.Mr Aaron Toland
114.Mr Apichai Trompronpitakkul
115.Mrs Siriluk Tuptanee
116.Mr Sirikorn Unsakul
117.Mrs Somluk Unsakul
118.Mr Meysam Valaie
119.Mr Benjamin Voigtmann*
120.Mr Francis Weston
121.Mrs Mary Weston
122.Ms Marie Whittington*
123.Mr Stefan Woronoff

Important telephone numbers:

One-Two-Go Hotline 1126
Bangkok Phuket Hospital 076-254421-9
Siriroj Hospital 076-249400
Vajira Phuket Hospital 076-361234
Mission Phuket Hospital 076-237220-9
Thalang Hospital 076-311033
British Embassy's emergency centre 02-3058333

one photo may indicate the position of the flaps of the plane in question.

while it is impossible for me to tell, I do ask others to look closely...could the flaps be at the go around position or the landing position...?

of course it is possible they were retracted after the landing to allow for evacuation, BUT with the plane broken apart, it is doubtful the hydraulic lines are fully intact.

we shall see.

I could not see the spoiler position...

87 fatalities, according to local officials. Britons confirmed among dead but at least five Britons among survivors. Not surprisingly, many nationalities on board flight

Approximately westerly wind at about 10 - 12 kts with 3000m in rain is not particularly bad weather IMHO. Must have been something else wrong? Why was it trying to land on 09 (VOR/DME approach) instead of 27 ILS and into wind?

Phuket is not known for awkward winds. So was there some other factor at work? Hardly a difficult approach?

MD-82 accident.
 

I note in the referenced blog that the aircraft was fitted with 175 seats. I'm not sure if this is a typo, but as a former MD-80 salesman, I am sure the aircraft was FAA certified for a maximum of 165 seats based on the number and type of doors and overwing exits.

Phil
 

Should the PNL details and 'status' be on pprune?
Another very sad day :(