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Paul Atkins144 11th Dec 2018 11:03

The long haul will operate next year 2020 the flights cease.

Trev4521 11th Dec 2018 19:09


Originally Posted by Paul Atkins144 (Post 10333141)
The long haul will operate next year 2020 the flights cease.

Yes i know that but why?

Cazza_fly 11th Dec 2018 20:12


Originally Posted by Trev4521 (Post 10333453)
Yes i know that but why?

They're moving the long haul ops to DSA instead. It's role reversal from the TOM/FCA merger days where they decided to remove the ex-Thomsonfly long haul routes from DSA and focus instead on the ex-FCA routes at EMA. I wouldn't say there's demand for both airports to operate the SFB/CUN routes with their close proximity / catchment areas.

Plane.Silly 12th Dec 2018 10:07


They're moving the long haul ops to DSA instead. It's role reversal from the TOM/FCA merger days where they decided to remove the ex-Thomsonfly long haul routes from DSA and focus instead on the ex-FCA routes at EMA. I wouldn't say there's demand for both airports to operate the SFB/CUN routes with their close proximity / catchment areas.
Another potential reason is DSA is further away from the established Long haul airports of MAN & BHX than EMA is. They can tap into a bit more of the catchment around East Yorkshire/ a bit of North Yorkshire too. DSA also has no Ryanair or Jet2, who will be taking the customer who may be considering long haul and converting them to their short haul flights

egnxema 20th Dec 2018 14:50

Has EMA handled many LGW diversions due to the drone closure?

Mr Angry from Purley 6th Jan 2019 15:15

Lest we forgot
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-46620393

Wiggly Bob 9th Jan 2019 18:31

Currently waiting for my flight, outbound BMI1237 to Brussels. Inbound aircraft not landed yet as “airfield closed due security incident” according to handling agents. Hope not more idiots with drones

edit - just as I type there’s a departure so seems all is well again. I’ll go back to my hole now....

Balair 20th Jan 2019 16:50

UPS HUB

Now that construction is well underway on the new UPS hub (I believe it is due to be completed later this year) has anyone heard if a decision has been made on the future of their current building?
I understand that consideration was being given to either retaining it for freight use, or converting it into an arrivals hall. Of course they may choose to just demolish it to free-up more apron space; but the need for this is hardly an immediate requirement.

Balair

sixchannel 11th Feb 2019 19:17

JET2 fleet at EMA - all middle aged?
 
Just looking at recent ins and outs at EMA, it struck me that the current 5 are all middle- aged i.e. 17- 20 years old.
GDFY Silver/Red Jet2 livery 18 yrs old. Ex-TravelService
JZHF Silver/Red Jet2 livery 19 yrs old. Ex-Transavia
JZHH Silver/Red Jet2 livery 19 yrs old. Ex-TransAero
DRTN Silver/Red Jet2 livery 17 yrs old. Ex Rossiya
DRTE Silver/Red Jet2 livery 19 yrs old. Ex-TransAero
Is this just a WinterSchedule thing or is EMA the Po' Boy of Jet2 bases with none of new aircraft?

Flightrider 11th Feb 2019 21:39

it's surely irrelevant provided that the aircraft turn up on time for their planned services and deliver customers from A to B as booked. if they don't, there's a debate to be had - but there could be any number of reasons including trying to burn hours before the aircraft's next major check if EMA is a high winter utilisation base (which I don't think it is) or trying to conserve hours to string out the date for the next major check if EMA base is low utilisation. Or there may be a group of older aircraft sharing a flying programme between them at EMA if aircraft parking there is cheaper than elsewhere in the network. Either way, I doubt the typical customer will have any inkling - or even give a stuff if they had - about it?

DanAir89 12th Feb 2019 06:31


Originally Posted by sixchannel (Post 10387138)
Just looking at recent ins and outs at EMA, it struck me that the current 5 are all middle- aged i.e. 17- 20 years old.
GDFY Silver/Red Jet2 livery 18 yrs old. Ex-TravelService
JZHF Silver/Red Jet2 livery 19 yrs old. Ex-Transavia
JZHH Silver/Red Jet2 livery 19 yrs old. Ex-TransAero
DRTN Silver/Red Jet2 livery 17 yrs old. Ex Rossiya
DRTE Silver/Red Jet2 livery 19 yrs old. Ex-TransAero
Is this just a WinterSchedule thing or is EMA the Po' Boy of Jet2 bases with none of new aircraft?


the newer built 737’s stay away from
newcastle too but do occasionally visit.

sixchannel 12th Feb 2019 09:06


Originally Posted by Flightrider (Post 10387244)
it's surely irrelevant provided that the aircraft turn up on time for their planned services and deliver customers from A to B as booked. if they don't, there's a debate to be had - but there could be any number of reasons including trying to burn hours before the aircraft's next major check if EMA is a high winter utilisation base (which I don't think it is) or trying to conserve hours to string out the date for the next major check if EMA base is low utilisation. Or there may be a group of older aircraft sharing a flying programme between them at EMA if aircraft parking there is cheaper than elsewhere in the network. Either way, I doubt the typical customer will have any inkling - or even give a stuff if they had - about it?

Quite so Flightrider. Pre using Jet2 we were long time Monarch flyers and they had some pretty elderly aircraft, some of which are still flying elsewhere, without problems.
It was simply an observation, based on looking at Jet2 flights out of EMA for a few days. Yes, sad I know but for this year we've made EMA our airport of choice instead of BHX as FUE isn't a second rotation, returning home at Stupid O'clock.
Be interesting to see when Summer programme kicks in (and our first flights this year are before then) whether I'm right though.
Shudder the thought but could Jet2 be winding down its EMA flights to benefit BHX?

LiamNCL 12th Feb 2019 09:19


Originally Posted by DanAir89 (Post 10387455)



the newer built 737’s stay away from
newcastle too but do occasionally visit.

Should change now its all 737-800 as JZBK is months old and is based now

Trev4521 19th Feb 2019 18:30

Who is going to take over at EMA on the Flybmi routes now? Loganair have taken some, it was bad enough when Flybe was taken over and timetables have been changed, who is coming to the rescue at EMA

FRatSTN 19th Feb 2019 19:35

I often think it was a shame EZY left EMA, which in hindsight was probably a couple of years premature. They could've picked up the slack by BmiBaby with the likes of PRG, VCE, NCE as well as a solid hold on BFS, GLA, EDI, AMS, CDG etc. even the likes of JER, BOD, LIS, NAP would have potential. Unfortunately for them, that boat largely sailed with Jet2 and Flybe having firmly established themselves in the region. Had is gone that way I think EMA would almost resemble a LPL (but with the holiday TOM / MT's of the world) or a mini BRS type passenger operation today.

22/04 20th Feb 2019 07:23

When Easy left EMA they were all about building up Gatwick. The fundamental problem is that EMA is too close to Birmingham - it will continue with a largely leisure and freight operation but little more. it really is in the right place for freight- the so called "golden triangle" (truck to anywhere in the UK in 4 hours).

As posted elsewhere the small aircraft business travel activity is not sustainable these days unless there is sector specific support ( e.g.oil, banking) or a public subsidy.

BAladdy 20th Feb 2019 08:30


Originally Posted by Trev4521 (Post 10394927)
Who is going to take over at EMA on the Flybmi routes now? Loganair have taken some, it was bad enough when Flybe was taken over and timetables have been changed, who is coming to the rescue at EMA

Loganair are currently running a recruitment campaign for flights and cabin crew aimed at former BM crew.
https://www.loganair.co.uk/recruitment-drive/
The application form (link below) asks applicants to select a prefered based from a list of 10 airports. 6 of the airports listed are airports that are not currently Loganair bases. One of the airports is EMA. So it looks like Loganair are planning to take over the BRU route in the near future.
https://www.loganair.co.uk/wp-conten...-Crewdocx.docx


Mr Angry from Purley 8th Mar 2019 12:17

Not sure if anyone from EMA reads this forum but parts of the inner ring roads as well as the approach in to the small roundabout could dearly do with re-surfacing.
Doesn't give a good impression of the Airport

Trev4521 11th Mar 2019 22:47

I think the road situation maybe due to all of the development at the airport ie UPS new cargo hub plus the massive distribution centres being constructed, maybe this is a contribution to the state of the roads. The Airport is going down in my view we have the opportunity to have a rail line with HS2 maybe we could incorporate it to have a rail link stopping at EMA that would relieve alot of traffic on the roads. It's ok having the warehouses but we need NEW routes developing and USA scheduled services that we were promised when EMA was taken over by MAG

Crusher1 12th Mar 2019 07:46

As much as I'd like to see long haul from EMA I can't see it happening any time soon. I feel that maintaining some of our existing routes/frequency may be a problem in itself. For a variety of reasons ABZ/BRU/GLA/EDI have all been hit recently. GR694 had a total of eleven pax yesterday and you have to wonder how viable the route is out of season. A hub service is required so that people like me could use the airport again but there's no sign of that happening at the moment. Cargo has been, and may well continue to be, the main growth area - having the worldwide freight connections on our doorstep has helped our business no end and I would guess it has encouraged many others to locate in the vicinity - so I don't think it's all doom and gloom!


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