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mwm991 27th Sep 2016 17:28

Bit harsh I think. Derby, Nottingham, Leicester is a decent catchment. It definitely has a place and serves a decent number of people, and I am someone who is critical of there being too many airports in the country.

nguba 27th Sep 2016 17:32

What EMA desperately needs is a flight that feeds in to one of the European network hubs.

If you look at the EI frequencies on BHX-DUB it's extremely poor that EMA can't sustain a single daily EMA-DUB.

Similarly if you look at KLM's coverage of UK airports it's strange that EMA cannot attract KLM.

Balair 27th Sep 2016 17:43

[email protected]

The stark truth, as we all know, is that EMAG have far greater priorities than EMA, and it is very apparent.
On completion of the departures hall I believe they made a statement to the effect that, apart from some work to "enhance the arrivals experience" (or should that read endurance?) there would be no further expansion of the terminal "for a while".
As you say, other airports appear to be far more aggressive in their approach to gaining (and keeping) new airlines/routes, whilst EMAG seem to be quite happy with the status quo at EMA. Although even with freight they should not be too complacent as the likes of BHX and DSA will take every opportunity to gain whatever share of that sector they can. It will be interesting to see what effect the TNT/FedEx merger and Amazon's developments have on future freight operations at EMA.

As for poor old Andy Cliffe, I am sure he is a very pleasant person, but let's face it he is just a nominal figure-head to be rolled-out for press photographs and recite the corporate "everything is going splendidly" soundbites. I doubt very much that he is the sort of individual, or in fact he is in a position to drive the airport forward?

Oh by the way if it is new routes you are interested in you might want to take a look at the appropriate section of the airport's website. Apparently Jet2 are to launch a new route to Pula starting 24th May 2015...! - Says it all really doesn't it?

Balair

EastMids 28th Sep 2016 09:53


If you look at the EI frequencies on BHX-DUB it's extremely poor that EMA can't sustain a single daily EMA-DUB.
EI was never going to work once a day - the timings were hopeless for connections to the transatlantic services, and it was not going to win a head to head with FR for the point to point traffic. Had EI come in twice daily at times that worked for outbound and inbound from / to the USA, the outcome might have been a bit different. As it happened, what was once floated as a twice daily EI op got split with DSA, and the end result is both services withered.


Passengers? all off to BHX, MAN and LBA.
To an extent, yes. BHX worked out it had capacity for EMA-type business (low-cost and holidays), especially in the off-peak and shoulders. It has gained carriers that at one time might have been expected to go EMA's way, primarily because it could offer deals (discounts etc) that were difficult to match. It could do this because it had a stronger portfolio of established carriers and the newcomers were not, for the most part, treading on existing toes. EMA is in a more difficult position because of the fickleness of its carrier base and their aversion to competition, and the risk they might throw their toys out of the pram and up sticks if their position on routes from EMA was challenged by a newcomer.

EMA made its bed when it originally welcomed the low-cost carriers with open arms, in the process destroying what full-service market there was. It should have fought harder to protect the established carriers / markets on key business routes, while easing the way for new routes to leisure and eastern destinations. Once you destroy connectivity at major hubs such as AMS, the regular business passengers head down the road and most haven't come back.

The end result is that EMA is somewhat at the mercy of its incumbent low-cost carriers and their willingness to expand - or not. A big concern right now must be whether there will be any leakage of Jet2 business to the newly established BHX operation - it has been suggested that some of Jet2's EMA market came up the M42 from the West Midlands, and part of it might choose not to do so in future. If some of that traffic does go, I suspect there could be contraction at EMA after next summer. This winter is going to be challenging anyway with EI gone, Eurowings being summer only and neaerly two months of five-days a week operations.


It will be interesting to see what effect the TNT/FedEx merger and Amazon's developments have on future freight operations at EMA
BHX doesn't really want frequent big freight. It doesn't have the space for it daytime, and it doesn't want the community impact of an intensive overnight operation. But yes, it will be interesting to see if FexEd / TNT consolidate at BHX or EMA, and I suspect both BHX and DSA will continue to chip away at the edges of the ad-hoc market. There is a huge Amazon fulfillment centre opening in Coalville this autumn and EMA could be positioned to capture some of that market should Amazon expand its European air operations, but of course the firm also has a large operation not far from DSA too.

j636 6th Oct 2016 01:01

FR to open x3 weekly BUD service in March.

sunday8pm 6th Oct 2016 07:04


Originally Posted by j636 (Post 9531386)
FR to open x3 weekly BUD service in March.

Out of here or Hungary?

dude1882 6th Oct 2016 09:35

Both id say ;)

ematom1 6th Oct 2016 11:56

Ryanair adding Reus 2 weekly Monday & Friday begins 27th March 2017

[email protected] 13th Oct 2016 09:41

Trinity Logistics firmed up a long term deal for Etihad Cargo to fly a weekly Columbo, Sri Lanka - Columbus, Ohio - East Midlands route with both 777F and 744F aircraft.

Source from Freightweek.

Additional service to boost the freight operation at EMA

ATNotts 13th Oct 2016 10:36


Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 9539254)
Trinity Logistics firmed up a long term deal for Etihad Cargo to fly a weekly Columbo, Sri Lanka - Columbus, Ohio - East Midlands route with both 777F and 744F aircraft.

Source from Freightweek.

Additional service to boost the freight operation at EMA

Excellent news!

If some could look beyond "bums on seats" and passenger numbers they'd realise this is the business segment where EMA can challenge and thrive.

jensdad 21st Oct 2016 22:44

Apologies for the spotterish question: Are there any good spots at EMA for viewing? I am heading down the M1 next Friday and wouldn't mind popping in, but I understand that the Aeropark is closed on Fridays :(
TIA

FRatSTN 21st Oct 2016 23:02

This isn't really the spotter's thread but you might want to try out Diseworth Road nr. Castle Donnington. But if it's anytime between around 9:30 - 11:30am I wouldn't waste your time as you'll barely see anything worth seeing.

jensdad 21st Oct 2016 23:37

Thanks for the info, FRatSTN. I'll stick Diseworth Road in the satnav.
Much appreciated:ok:

Midland 331 23rd Oct 2016 16:06

DE74 2PR will get you close to The Nags Head, at the end of Diseworth Lane.

Diseworth Lane does not lead to Diseworth, though, so beware. Someone stuck a runway across it circa 1969. Sadly, I'm old enough to remember when it did lead to Diseworth!

"The Airport Trail" will take you from the top of Diseworth Lane, by the crash gate, along the northern perimeter fence if you fancy a stroll.

chaps1954 23rd Oct 2016 16:54

Is that the one that heads to the fire training ground?
If so a nice afternoon stroll and dog walk ( if you have one that is )

Ian

egnxema 22nd Nov 2016 20:46

September Stats
 
CAA figures recently published for September 16

Flights this month 5569, 0.8% increase on Sept 15

Pax this month 538675, 6.6% increase on Sept 15

Rolling 12 month pax 4,660,455 , 4.8% inc over the previous year

Habana2118 28th Nov 2016 12:15

What's the latest on based aircraft? How many for FR, Jet2, MT and TOM etc

FRatSTN 28th Nov 2016 13:07

For S17, EMA will have;

FR - 9x 738s
LS - 4x 738s + 3x 733s
TOM - 3x 738s
MT - 2x A321s
T3 - 1x J41

BE, FR, LS, BM, GR and the odd charter also fly in with aircraft based elsewhere.

Habana2118 28th Nov 2016 14:32

Thanks for that..

ematom1 1st Dec 2016 15:45

Ryanair new route to Naples x3 weekly begins 2nd May 2017


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