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BAladdy 12th Nov 2011 23:49

IAG held it's first investor

They published a 212 page report detailing the companies plans for the next 4 years.

Part of the report details what aircraft they expect to be operating in 2015 compared to today.

The fleet (incl BACF) is currently made up of:

Longhaul = 116 aircraft

02 x A318's
52 x 747's
14 x 767's
03 x 772's (G-ZZZA-C)
43 x 772ER's
04 x 77W's

Shorthaul = 123 Aircraft

84 x A320 Family
19 x 737's
07 x 767's
05 x E170's
08 X E190's

In 2015 this will change to:

Longhaul = 127 Aircraft

02 x A318's
09 x A380's
45 x 747's
01 x 767's
03 x 772's (G-ZZZA-C)
43 x 772ER's
08 x 77W's
08 x 787-8's
08 x 787-9's

Shorthaul = 142 Aircraft

95 x A320 Family
05 x E170's
08 x E190's
34 x Other's ( Exact breakdown unknown mix of 737/767 aircraft)

http://media.corporate-ir.net/media_...Day%202011.pdf

VanBosh 13th Nov 2011 15:47

Just read that report, very interesting. IAG are definitely stressing a scalable platform but they have a huge job on their hands in Madrid.

Facelookbovvered 14th Nov 2011 20:20

What fleet do BA have at LGW these days, types and number of aircraft?

delta154 14th Nov 2011 20:24

Just got a few Questions on the mixed fleet operation, as Im curious to see how BA are getting on introducing the concept to their ops. Ive searched the internet, but the lists seem to be different on each site, and the route list keeps changing. So:

1) What are the current mixed fleet routes? Ive seen MRU has gone/going back over to LGW and AMS has gone back to Euro fleet?

2) Is the B744 used in mixed fleet or not? Any plans to use it as seen as its quite a large proportion of the Long Haul fleet?

3) Any plans for further routes to enter the mixed fleet operation?

Many thanks in advance.

CabinCrewe 14th Nov 2011 20:46

Mixed Fleet Is All About YOU, customers. - FlyerTalk Forums

babybaby 14th Nov 2011 21:03

Whilst obvious that IAG are buying BMI for the slots, if you read the Investors Day presentation and see what savings IAG will make with Iberia Express that IAG must be tempted to do the same at British Airways, using BMI as the lower cost platform. I guess that's what Willie means by "the BMI of the future will look very different from the BMI of today". Looking at the Iberia Express projections I can see BMI's fleet of 25 A320 and A330 doubling to 50 by 2015. That will be great news for BMI career progression after years of stagnation. :)


babybaby :{

Skipness One Echo 14th Nov 2011 21:17


What fleet do BA have at LGW these days, types and number of aircraft?
7-9 B777-200ER rotations per day
19 based B737-400s, supplemented by 2-3 A319s from LHR over the summer.

BAladdy 14th Nov 2011 22:00


1) What are the current mixed fleet routes? Ive seen MRU has gone/going back over to LGW and AMS has gone back to Euro fleet?
The Mixed Fleets Routes are:

Shorthaul:

Budapest
Hamburg
Kiev
Lisbon
Manchester
Paris Orly
Pisa
Prague
St Petersburg
Tripoli (Currently Suspended)
Vienna

Longhaul:

Accra
Chicago
Denver
Haneda
Las Vegas
Luanda
Nairobi
Pheonix
Rio De Janeiro
San Diego

Former Mixed Fleet Routes:

Amsterdam - Route Transferred back to Eurofleet
Atlanta - Route Transferred back to WW fleet November 2011
Mauritius - Route Transferred to LGW at end of S11 schedule

These routes are subject to possible future change i.e. it is possible that any of these routes could move back to Worldwide/Eurofleet and be replaced by different routes in future months.


2) Is the B744 used in mixed fleet or not? Any plans to use it as seen as its quite a large proportion of the Long Haul fleet?
747 operated routes - LAS and PHX


3) Any plans for further routes to enter the mixed fleet operation?
As with back in September NO new routes will be transferred to Mixed Fleet in the Month of December

londonmet 26th Jan 2012 16:22

BA 767's
 
I've heard that the 767's will be staying and the 787's are now expansion aircraft rather than replacement aircraft.

cornishsimon 26th Jan 2012 23:04


I've heard that the 767's will be staying and the 787's are now expansion aircraft rather than replacement aircraft.
Wouldnt surprise me at all, especially considering the IAG deal with LH for BMI, BA are going to need Longhaul aircraft in a hurry as well as higher capacity aircraft so that they can reduce the current BA/BMI rotations on some domestic destinations without dropping capacity, why send 3 airbus when you can send 2 767s etc !

cs

Spitfire boy 3rd Feb 2012 14:17

bmi and BA pilots say yes
 
STRATEGIC DEVELOPMENTS
IAG plans to integrate bmi mainline into British Airways, subject to receiving regulatory approval for the acquisition. This follows agreement by British Airways’ pilots to make productivity changes that justify the integration.
IAG Printer Friendly Version - News Release=

LHRKLBD 3rd Feb 2012 19:04

I also wonder what it would mean for the BD ground staff too.

queenvic 12th Feb 2012 09:40

anyone know anymore about when the midland crew are likely to hear their fate?

we have alot of experienced crew who have been with the company for years.

our worst fear is to be dumped on to Mixed fleet earning £1000 a month... which for most of us is unsustainable as we have families and a mortgage..

we just want to know so we can plan our lives..

CabinCrewe 12th Feb 2012 10:49

I would imagine the BA plan will be to integrate to Mixed Fleet if feasible. Perhaps better for some than the airline being wound up and closed.

starbag 12th Feb 2012 22:12


anyone know anymore about when the midland crew are likely to hear their fate?
As per Wolfgang's last announcement, more info in March. Take over was referred to EU last week, with a decision expected in 5-6 weeks. Only once approval has been reached can any plans be announced. All the info is available on intranet.

jabird 12th Feb 2012 23:08


Haneda
Thought that had gone?

Fairdealfrank 13th Feb 2012 00:19

No, HND is very much alive and thriving!

It's by far Japan's busiest airport and ranks just below LHR in the table of busiest airports. It handles mostly, though not exclusively, domestic traffic.

When the bulk of international services were moved to NRT, a handful remained at HND (GMP, SHA, TSA, etc.) but now that there are four runways, international services to/from HND are expanding, and limited flights to/from Europe and North America have recently restarted.

It's not hard to understand the continuing popularity of HND, it's dead convenient for Tokyo being just a short monorail ride away. Compare that to the trek all the way out to NRT.

jabird 13th Feb 2012 01:04


No, HND is very much alive and thriving!
I had tried searching ba.com midweek, and it looks like it doesn't operate T or W. Normally, I'd expect at least a daily rotation for a route like this - if dropping any days, I'd expect it to be Sa or Su. Odd to drop two consec days isn't it?

I totally agree about HND v NRT - and I think those stacked discs are pretty iconic too! It isn't just the monorail though - HND is way better for Yokohoma, or anywhere really in metro Tokyo + there's all the domestic links too.

We like to think the Japanese have an excellent rail network (which they do) - apart from high speed airport transfers. Shinkansen link to NRT got dropped, and as you say, it is way out in the boondooks compared to NRT. Surprise BA bother serving it at all, but I suppose JAL offer some connections from there.

jdcg 13th Feb 2012 10:35

The timings on the HND are not great. A VERY early departure in the morning from HND for example. It is more convenient than NRT but there are fast trains (albeit not Shinkansen) from the airport to Ueno, Tokyo main station, Shinjuku etc so it's not the nightmare it once was.

Fairdealfrank 13th Feb 2012 23:25

Correct me if this is wrong, but AFAIK the inconvenient timings at HND are to do with restrictions on slot pairs for (long haul) international flights. Tuesdays and wednesdays can be quiet days on some long haul flights. Surprised it's not daily though.


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