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Jack1985 23rd Aug 2012 16:19


Does BMI self-handle at Dublin or use a handling agent ? Are BA continuing with these arrangements or have they gone out to another agent ?
BMI used Sky Handling, I would assume BA continue to do so also.

PAXboy 23rd Aug 2012 17:38

jerboy

If you whipped out a Blue Card and played the DYKWIA game you wouldn't get much of a response.
I should have made myself clear - since the event had already happened, there was nothing to be done. BUT, if he kicked up enough fuss, BA are known to oferring to stuff miles (sorry, Avios) into your account. Sometimes, it's worth being inconvienienced - to get the points. :p

WHBM 23rd Aug 2012 17:59


Originally Posted by Jack1985 (Post 7375042)
How weird and very strange....

But unfortunately not unique, it's happened before, including the odd survivor, which presumably only encourages others. I recall once a body fell on approach when the landing gear was deployed.

PAXboy 23rd Aug 2012 22:08

It doesn't happen as often as it used to but it's a regular event all around the third world. Some of them fall out on rotation, others on deployment of the gear, it all depends how they were holding inside the bay when they died. There have been occaisions when the body was not discoverd at dest (on intermediates) and has gone on further sectors.

Getting accurate information to potential stoaways is impossible.

jerboy 23rd Aug 2012 22:29


Sometimes, it's worth being inconvienienced - to get the points.
100% agree! :cool:

TCX69 23rd Aug 2012 23:00


BMI used Sky Handling, I would assume BA continue to do so also.
Servisair I thought... When did this change??

PPRuNeUser0176 6th Sep 2012 12:10

BA have confirmed that the afternoon LCY-SNN-JFK flight will lose pre clearance.

BA003 New York service to lose US pre-clearance at Shannon - Business Traveller

EI-BUD 6th Sep 2012 12:53


BA have confirmed that the afternoon LCY-SNN-JFK flight will lose pre clearance.


The minister for Transport in Ireland effectively called this out a few months ago. BA should use Dublin for clearance on this flight.

SENChris 6th Sep 2012 12:59

Does Dublin work from a fuel point of view as one of the reasons for the stopover in Shannon was the range of the aircraft?

EI-A330-300 6th Sep 2012 17:04

If BA did move it to DUB there would be massive fall out form a political point of view around the mid west and I'm sure BA have considered it. DUB has always closes at 16.00 and there was talk of extending the opening times for summer 2013 but thats not required as the 17.10 EI to JFK has being moved to 15.45 with the terminal move in JFK.

Don't think the fuel thing would have an impact but could be wrong.

EI-BUD 6th Sep 2012 17:10



If BA did move it to DUB there would be massive fall out form a political
point of view around the mid west
If BA moved it would be there choice and Leo V stated that the cutting of immigration opening hours at SNN would only effect 1 flight that typically has 18 passengers, shows how much he values the BA use of SNN. I can see any fall out for 2 x 318s a day max passenger throughput of 64 people!

Dublin is 20 mins flying to Shannon, I would be shocked if 20 minutes had a huge implication. . .

EI-A330-300 6th Sep 2012 17:20

The cuts are from the US as they pay wages and they have decided to do it not anyone over here but if Dublin was to benefit from SNN then you can be sure there would be trouble.

I'm also thinking that if BA moved to DUB they would not be able to have passengers processed as quick or the aircraft refueled. Then there is BA having to use T2 and there CEO hasn't spoken to kindly of it when it opened.

TURIN 6th Sep 2012 20:06

Well in that case it's obvious. Drop it into MAN, refuel and away you go. Sorted!!;)

BKS Air Transport 6th Sep 2012 20:18

No, I'd go for NQY or PIK. Pretty fast I reckon.

Fairdealfrank 6th Sep 2012 21:07

Quote: "Well in that case it's obvious. Drop it into MAN, refuel and away you go. Sorted!!"

No point, the unique selling point is the pre-clearance, and a very quick pre-clearance at SNN.

At DUB, there are other flights leaving for the US, so the pre-clearance would not be so quick. At MAN, PIK or NQY there is no pre-clearance.

TURIN 6th Sep 2012 21:19

Yeeeees.

I thought this ;) would hint at my intent there.

BKS Air Transport 6th Sep 2012 23:04

That was my point, if there is going to be no pre-clearance at SNN of this flight, then why bother going there? Go for a rapid refuel in the UK.

Fairdealfrank 6th Sep 2012 23:15

Quote: "That was my point, if there is going to be no pre-clearance at SNN of this flight, then why bother going there? Go for a rapid refuel in the UK."

KEF might be better, at least it's sort of on the way....

WHBM 6th Sep 2012 23:42


Originally Posted by BKS Air Transport (Post 7400919)
That was my point, if there is going to be no pre-clearance at SNN of this flight, then why bother going there? Go for a rapid refuel in the UK.

Indeed. If no pre-clearance at Shannon then the quickest thing to do is refuel at Stansted to save coming all the way down from altitude and having to go back up again.

Skipness One Echo 7th Sep 2012 00:04


if there is going to be no pre-clearance at SNN of this flight, then why bother going there?
Shannon is more often on the way from LON to JFK than PIK or MAN, so it does make sense to keep using it. Also, MAN is more congested, PIK is empty but is a bit of an old detour. The distance between SNN and DUB is not an issue, if the runway was long enough at LCY, they wouldn't need to stop anywhere.


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