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Charlie Roy 26th Mar 2007 21:01

Ryanair - 5
 
According to this article Ryanair plan to launch a route between Santiago de Compostela and AMSTERDAM on September 1st!

Does this mean an Amsterdam base?!
Could it also mean that the aircraft planned to arrive in Charleroi on September 1st will instead go to Amsterdam due to a delay with Charleroi's new terminal?

I would have found the thought of an Amsterdam base fairly improbable except for MOL recently saying that FR are going to have to start flying to bigger airports. And considering that FR fly to Madrid, then why not Amsterdam?

Strange though how FR would agree to expand in the Netherlands given that aviation taxes there are set to sore, but then that's happening in nearly every European country right now.


Aer Lingus pondrá en marcha un par de conexiones a la semana entre la capital gallega y la irlandesa, Dublín. Y, por la otra, Ryanair pretende establecer un puente diario con Amsterdam (Holanda) a partir del 1 de septiembre.

virginblue 26th Mar 2007 21:07

I cannot see anything that suggests a base at AMS. It only mentions a "route" which is not that unusual as there have been a couple of routes between non-base airports (routes to LBC come to mind). Ine other question is whether the paper has simply made up AMS while Ryanair might simply have mentioned the Netherlands, meaning EIN.

Avman 26th Mar 2007 21:27

Now let me see, Amsterdam in Ryan speak. Hmm, I guess that must be Maastricht (soon to be re-named Amsterdam South by RYR) then! :E

Patuta 26th Mar 2007 21:46

Will this become the new Ryanair-Thread?
I doubt it. Didn't receive any reply from the moderator, why the old thread disappeared.

aeulad 27th Mar 2007 09:47

The topic title is false and misleading. Suggest the mods take a look.

Regards

Mike

anna_list 27th Mar 2007 09:58

Slot requests
 
I seem to remember that last year the same newspaper (la voz de galicia) revealed that FR would be starting services from SCQ to PSA and BGY.

It turned out that they were jumping to conclusions on the basis of slot requests and the services have yet to be launched (Slot requests do not necessarily imply that a given airline intends to open a given route).

I think they may have done the same thing again here, and possibly got confused between Amsterdam and Eindhoven.

eu01 27th Mar 2007 17:04

A censorship?
 
Sorry, but a pretty big chunk of this thread has been cut off (between November 29th and yesterday). Shouldn't we know what has happened here?

Evileyes 27th Mar 2007 20:40

No, not censorship. The thread has simply vanished and it has nothing to do with moderation, censorship, or a conspiracy. We've looked as deeply as we can into the archives but it can't be found by our level of access. Sorry.

Regards,
The AA&R Mods

Patuta 28th Mar 2007 13:42

Thanks for an answer.
The thread "Ryanair - 5" can still be read in the google cache if you search for certain issues.

DONTTELLTHEPAX 28th Mar 2007 21:18

Fr1010 ? Agp-stn
 
BAA arrivals board shows flight FR1010 AGP-STN, STA 0740.
This flight has been shown at the same time for the last few days,
as far as I know FR do not opp to/from AGP from STN.
Anyone know whats going on :confused:

eidah 28th Mar 2007 22:29

its not on the Ryanair website maybe it is to be a new route

markmartin 29th Mar 2007 07:13

FR use FR10XX series when they apply for slots. In fact, not a single route operates with such code in all their network (they are changed as soon as they get the slots and decide to operate flights).

johnref 29th Mar 2007 08:35

has Ryanair given up their policy of blocking the front and back 6 rows when operating in and out of Derry. Last night you could sit anywhere except row 3 & 4. Going over the previous day the rows were blocked as they were when I flew DUB - ORK last week.

Maybe it was just a busy flight and they were able to sneak in more than 149 passengers.

I only ask because it was supposedly a Health and Safety issue that the planes be restricted into Derry as the runway is still too short for the 738's

HH6702 29th Mar 2007 13:11

slots at NCL
 
does anybody know if FR have kept the slots of the NCL to oslo route?

also about 2 years ago FR were going to do stockholme-NCL-oslo-NCL-stockholme using flight numbers around 1701-1710.
only the oslo ever started using a liverpool based aircraft.
does anybody have any information if the slots are still in at stockholme?

thanks
hh6702

Charlie Roy 29th Mar 2007 13:53

Amsterdam
 
Ryanair have also requested slots for Amsterdam - Valencia (late evenings)

Ryan_EMA 29th Mar 2007 19:17

Ryanair is blockin rows depending on pax numbers it is called rule 1 or rule 2.
Rule 1 rows 3&4
Rule 2 rows 1-6 and 30-33

cheers
tom

jack_essex 29th Mar 2007 22:36

Regarding the post about blocking seats on the LDY flight. FR can only carry 141 pax STN - LDY, not 149. and cannot carry any more. Only 141 boarding cards are printed so it is not possible for Ryanair to 'sneak' more pax on.

airbourne 30th Mar 2007 01:23

Are ya sure now? Would you not have someone saying there give us 20 quid plus the taxes and charges of anther 100 quid and we sneak you on? :) :)

DONTTELLTHEPAX 1st Apr 2007 08:28

Ryanair not ruling out US domestic flights

31.03.07

Ryanair boss Michael O'Leary has suggested his airline may start domestic routes in the US - if the US market is opened up in 2010 as part of a second stage open skies agreement with the EU. He told a new service: 'It's eminently possible. Our cost base is much lower than US airlines and our fares are lower.'
As a foreign airline, Ryanair is currently barred from flying US domestic routes. However, the new open skies agreement between Europe and the US should see America open its domestic market to non-US airlines by 2010, leaving the way clear for Ryanair to enter the fray in the world's biggest aviation market.

aidoair 1st Apr 2007 09:03

flights to the moon
 
It looks like they are planning on starting flights to the moon as well
See their website.
;) :) ;)

jabird 1st Apr 2007 11:25

The 5th runway at AMS is practically in Rotterdam, so maybe there is some appeal for MOL?

airhumberside 9th Apr 2007 20:53

Theres a report in the Maltese press about a number of new FR routes out of Malta. Airports mentioned include:

PIK
BRS
DSA
MAD
Bremen
Weeze
Venice (I assume Treviso)
Trapani

dumdumbrain 10th Apr 2007 07:43

Malaga new base
 
Does this mean ryanair will base an aircraft at Donny? Or well Malta become a base? Seems odd, for DSA to fly to somewhere that isnt a base. I heard at work that malaga will become a base once the new terminal is open.

MUFC_fan 10th Apr 2007 09:17

NCL - Oslo Torp and Oporto-Beavais are just 2 routes that I can think of that FR operate with a non-based a/c.

On the AGP front, that you be a good move for FR, but surely they can't compete with EZY and ZB on the UK front can they? Almost every airport in the UK has an AGP connection from usually more than one carrier with multi-daily flights. But hey. whoever stopped FR?!

EI-BUD 10th Apr 2007 09:47

Ryanair & Malaga
 
but surely they can't compete with EZY and ZB on the UK front can they?
MUFC_Fan
I was just reading the above comment that you made. I dont think that there is anyone Ryanair would need to worry about competing with, however, I would reckon the likes of EZY & ZB would fear a Ryanair arrival in any market.

My experience has been however, that when I want to book flights to spain at short notice I can never get a good price while on most non Spain or Portugal (or sun routes) I can. There need to be some real competition on the Spain routes I think.

As regards a DSA Malta link, I wouldnt be surprised if Ryanair looked at either airport for a future base. As someone else said FR have a few routes that are not from or to an existing base such as
Tampere/Riga
Newcastle/Oslo Torp
Paris BVA/Porto
Paris BVA/Venice Treviso

thepeacock 10th Apr 2007 10:14

RE: Operating between non-base & non-base
 
Newcastle - Oslo was scrapped by Ryanair last month.

dwlpl 10th Apr 2007 10:14


NCL - Oslo Torp and Oporto-Beavais are just 2 routes that I can think of that FR operate with a non-based a/c.
Re Newcastle-Oslo Torp was a Ryanair route.

dumdumbrain 10th Apr 2007 10:40

AGP
 
Well Ryanair could do very well on this route, yes many others do the same, but with higher prices. I think we have started to see a change in Ryanair, for example it now flys to alicante and palma, which both have many flights already going to them. Ryanair can take on Sleazyjet, and the Ryanair aircraft has a much higher load factor.
We all know Ryanair is looking to have 5 or so bases in Spain, and AGP is a good move.
I can see other so called low cost airlines will have to change or the growth will stop or even go out of business.

One thing I would point out is that Ryanairs route STN-ALC is doing very well, infact if you look at the cost, is the most expensive, a good money maker, and i dont see why ryanair will not jump on this and expand the flights to ALC and also AGP.

MUFC_fan 10th Apr 2007 10:59

I have been looking at the load factors of both airlines over the past 12 months, and it seems EZY are filling their planes up better than FR.

Ryanair may have the biggest fleet, the largest aircraft and carry the most passengers, but one thing EZY has over FR is that it has a more lean business, and can attract more income and better passenger loads than FR.

Pax loads:

FR: 82% (155 passengers)
EZY: 84.3% (132 passengers)

Also in the past 12 months (rolling), EZY has made a total revenue of GBP 1,709,000,000. That equates to GBP 49.47 per passenger.

Does anybody know the FR total revenue?

Cheers.

dumdumbrain 10th Apr 2007 11:18

I don't have the figures but I don't think Ryanair will worry about EZY if both do AGP. With regards to the load factors I was on about ema to rome.

DONTTELLTHEPAX 10th Apr 2007 11:29

Ryanair dont worry about any other carrier on a route
all they need/will do is sell the seats at £0.99 until
the other airline has gone.

Its simple lowest price on new route,
bump up prices on another route/s.

thepeacock 10th Apr 2007 12:18

Agreed. It's simple, as they have the lowest costs and potential for massive capacity FR will always win / force existing carriers off routes. Yes they compete foremost on price but they also, generally, go in with good schedules, high frequency so win on that fron too.

cesare 10th Apr 2007 17:27


I heard at work that malaga will become a base once the new terminal is open.
It's a reliable souce?


On the AGP front, that you be a good move for FR, but surely they can't compete with EZY and ZB on the UK front can they? Almost every airport in the UK has an AGP connection from usually more than one carrier with multi-daily flights. But hey. whoever stopped FR?!
Don't exist only routes AGP-UK airports...
Ryanair can open new different routes from AGP to others european airport...

cesare 10th Apr 2007 17:37

This week MOL will be in HHN and BRE to visit new ryanair dedicated terminals.

Probably will be annunced new routes from these base...

Any rumors?

Charlie Roy 10th Apr 2007 18:22

When Ryanair announced the Bremen base they said it would get a third aircraft in September 2007, so maybe they will announce this aircraft's routes soon.

The only rumour I've heard regarding Bremen is a route to Vasteras.

Charlie Roy 10th Apr 2007 18:31

Apparently Ryanair have expressed an interest in Cochstedt airport, west of Magdeburg and Southeast of Braunschweig in Saxony, Germany.

http://www.mz-web.de/servlet/Content...=1018881578312

dumdumbrain 10th Apr 2007 19:06

Interesting, does the link come in english aswell?

I have a few cabin crew friends for ryanair and i know two pilots. My problem with ryanair is the lack of staff, the current staff are being pushed to the limit. The pilot i know who works for them often jokes about coming back to work with me at TNT, and would rather work nights again than be pushed so much. I mean my flying hours for the year look so far to be about 560.................

vitoque 10th Apr 2007 21:03

> Ryanair have also requested slots for Amsterdam - Valencia (late evenings)
I don't see any slot request for Amsterdam from Ryanair in the the internet site of Airport Coordination Netherlands:
http://www.slotcoordination.nl/
What is the source?

cesare 10th Apr 2007 22:24

Others rumors report 4 or 5 new Ryanair route from BRE starting in September...

kedlinger 11th Apr 2007 05:41

Cochstedt airport
 
About the german article, it says: "Von 2008 an sollen Mallorca, Varna und Antalya auf dem Flugplan stehen" (as from 2008 Mallorca, Varna and Antalya are on the program). Non of these cities is a current Ryanair destination. Furthermore, this article does not at all correspond to the statement of MOL that Ryanair will concentrate more on bigger cities/airports...


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