Yeah - to the sheep who are so misinformed and gullible they'd believe the moon is cheese if O'Leary told them so. LOL:}
Good point. Thinking ahead there bia total.
Developing that further - the rumour is that the EU may force him to off-load the shares if they determine his holding predjudices the 75% majority voting the Aer Lingus board needs for certain decisions.
So MOL's chance to 'do it quietly' could suddenly be whipped away from him. An overnight 25% liquidity in the share could certainly hit the price and leave him rather embarrassed.
Now wouldn't that be nice.:E

Is that why he has grown a quite small Irish carrier into one of the largest and fastest growing airlines in the world?

This man has done what Laker failed to do...bring cheap flights to the people...and keep them cheap...and in business!

There are so many anti-FR fans on these forums. Look at the facts - they are the most on time airline in Europe, loose the least bags and have rock bottom fares, with new a/c!

What peoples problems are is that they are jealous of a man who has been an inspiration to many across the world. It is people like yourself who has become obsessed with critising the carrier...looks like MOL's plan has worked...you know there name...and so do 42.5 million others.

According to flightontime.info, Ryanair, using data recorded by the CAA at UK airports, ranks Ryanair 12th for on-time performance during 2006, with 70% of flights arriving on time. Flightstats.com rate them at 74% on time for Feb and March 2007, on routes between UK and Ireland.

Clearly, with the bulk of their flights operating to/from Ireland and Britain, these figures suggest their claim of 99% must be inflated.

Their baggage statistics are unsubstantiated as they do not report these figures to the AUC or anyone else. Personally I don't believe their 'results' are as good as they claim - a factor of ten less than the best reported by the AUC? (FWIW, Virgin Atlantic, bmi, Cyprus Airways, Aer Lingus, JAT Airways, EasyJet and Olympic do not report baggage loss stats to AUC either). That they dare to claim the AUC has actually confirmed them as No. 1 is not only wrong but simply makes any of their other claims suspicious IMO.

There are plenty of online articles from last October and November reporting that Ryanair is most complained about airline in Europe, one article even stating that baggage mix-ups and flight delays were the cause of most of the complaints.

This is really doing my head in now
 

:zzz: I have worked in the industry since leaving school,i am now 30 and i worked for airlines that have gone bankrupt.I personally beleive and know Ryanair do a fantastic job of offering lowcost flights to people that may not be able to fly.They fly new aircraft punctual and clean and basic.
I fly Ryanair at least 20 times a year and between other airlines the legroom between seats is greater than some other loco .

Also all this abuse they get re the odd flight canx ,beleive you and me it is not in any airlines interest to cancel a flight :)

Yes mr o,leary is a great guy and a very shrewed business man he aint daft .This why they make money and it is not all from 1p fares

CARHIRE HOTELS HOSTELS ONline gambling insurance credit cards the list of ancillary products is endless what next online shopping who knows

Mr oleary would never have taken a rumored 25 stake in EI unless he knew can shift the shares if it all goes wrong .For some reason other locos seem to manage to stay away from this abuse .Or is just that ezy produce a TV programme good advertising that is


BRing on Ryanair p.s. i DO NOT WORK FOR THEm I WORK for a belgium airline and there aint many of those

That kingdee remains to be seen. but ask yourself this. If you had shares in EI, and heard mol was being forced to off-loading all of his, what would you expect to get.
i might suggest a number between 1 and 100. cents that is.

and it's "I work for a BELGIAN airline". :ugh:

Further to previous posts, here's one little topical example of "lies, damn lies and Ryanair statistics":

A friend of ours was due to arrive in Dublin from EMA early this morning on FR535. She got in touch to say the flight was delayed for 8 hours :eek: .

This is confirmed by the EMA airport website. I'm sure this will be updated, but as of now - about noon on the day in question - it says: Similarly, the Dublin airport website currently says However, if I go to "flight information" on the Ryanair website (today's EMA-DUB flights here) I find that magically the flight was "on time". :ugh:

So somehow I find it hard to place any credence at all in the "90% of flights on time last week" figure in large print higher up that same page...

I believe it is somebody in Groundops Control or whatever they call it in Dublin who updates the website. They just probably haven't got round to updating it yet - I normally find it quite reliable. If FR flights are running early it still shows "on time" on the website, therefore it is better (as you have done) to look at airport info sites for more up to date times. There isn't a conspiracy round every corner you know. Relax!

XSB

Aerlingus stake
 

Perhaps MOL will look for another airline to sell the EI stake to? Whatever happens he is on very shaky ground playing with hundreds of million of Euros of Shareholders money. It could well be his downfall if he is forced to take a significant loss on the sale. At the moment they are trading well above what he paid for them, but the Share Price would fall through the floor if he was forced to sell them. It would be better for all concerned if MOL were to sell the stake as a whole.

No, like any company their size they have dedicated IT and web employees. A website that big and extensive is not something that one of the ground crew would put together during his spare moments. :ugh:

I would think that not posting full details of serious delays is perfectly normal across the industry. Would you want booking customers to see that? Thousands of flights, one is 8 hours late and you risk losing hundreds of customers? Most other airlines would put something like "contact the airline" instead and most of their PAX know that delays are common and really don't think too much of it. Ryanair, however, has started a myth of almost total perfection that they are trying desperately to maintain.

Hardly their greatest sin, all things considered, though for those of us who have little time for MOL's antics it just raises another red flag to the bull.

DrKev, you are indeed just banging your head against a brick wall.
Keep it up though!

O'Leary has created a 'cult of personality' and these sycophants have bought into with such a vengeance they are keen to come to a PILOTS website day after day to kneel and pay homage to their hero, and defend him from scurrilous negative publicity!
Its hilarious.

Hey, Adolf Hitler kept the trains running on time! That was popular enough to get him elected, whatever his methods.
Reading some of the posts here sure helps me to understand where the Sieg Heiling drones came from in 1940's Germany.

Erm, are you comparing MOL to Hitler? I really don't need to say anything, do I?

I don't think MOL is a nice guy- I've met him at RADA in London and I found him abrasive and slightly rude, to be honest. However, as a businessman, he is very shrewd and has pushed the boundaries of traditional concepts of aviation, making flying more like catching a bus- people actually make a conscious decision to fly the airline and you cannot deny, however hard you try Maxalt, that Ryanair provides the customers with SOMETHING they want, which the competition seemingly doesn't. This may be unglamorous, but it is good business practise.

Of course, when the stupid, ignorant general public realise that FR doesn't offer complementary hand-towels and glass of pinot-grigio on board, they shall REVOLT against this evil propaganda machine! You're like a modern-day aviation-bent Marx, Maxalt....

Dr Kev,
I was advised once by somebody in FR that instead of calling their ops department, as a handling agent, I was to look at their website for information regarding delayed flights. This was because one of their ground ops people (who were in charge of all airports outwith DUB and STN) kept it updated as part of their duties! So its not a case of :ugh: I'm afraid!!!!
Mind you, I never trusted it totally because it did take a while to update.

But still, I agree it is a minor issue compared to the things you could slate FR for.......

XSB

The implication is rather obvious, running an efficient undertaking doesn't make one a nice person, doesn't mean their methods aren't abhorrent and doesn't mean everything they say is true. Does everything have to be explained? :rolleyes:

Bia Botal is right here. MOL is on very shaky ground. Despite the great love of him the spotters have, many of the shareholders (particularly in the US), are not so enamoured. He's safe enough as long as the results are delievred, but one slip and he's gone. I know for a fact that many are emphatically not impressed with his abrasiveness and belligerence, particularly his penchant to be fighting everyone. There are many a murmuring for a steadier hand at the tiller. Unauthorised gambling with shareholders money whilst refusing a much demanded dividend may not be his greatest plan yet.

To all you spotters: one hour of working for ryr would convince you that the management in ryr live and breath lies, deceptions and untruths. The whole apparatus is based on lies and bull$hit. It is widely believed that micko lost the truth several years ago and hasn't found it since. You go ahead and believe everything ryr say, but don't expect anyone with any knowledge of the place to agree with you.

Some posters, on BOTH sides of the issue, need to calm down a bit or the thread may need to take a holiday.

Cheers,
The AA&R Mods

RADA! You've gotta be kidding! The mind truly boggles! Was his act convincing? You seem to have bought it....

Slightly rude? Did you enjoy that? Being dominated by a STRONG personality?
Ooooh luvvie!

Try working for him.
Try getting a refund!

He's a business man? Gee, I thought he was a DEITY. You seem totally hypnotised.
A businessman is in business to make money - not pro bono publica - despite what you reggie spotters would have us believe.
Quit the sycophantic grovelling - its juvenile and sick making.

He must be a nice man, after all in his latest offer
he is offering £00.01p flights, he has dropped all the
add-on's only the gov-tax, no other charges to pay,
we all know the tax has to be payed, £20 rtn all in,
what a nice man.:ok: :D :ok:

Can we please try and stick to the point of the 'Ryanair' thread. Not just about MOL or how late was that flight FRXXXX....:hmm:

Yes, back to reggie spotting and timetable bashing, you sad lot of geeks.
And - Sieg Heil!!

Maxalt, you should stop slagging the only airline
that would give you a job, its just disrespectful :=

Just to lift the move of this thread :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpiCN...related&search=
see Ryanair seems ok now.

The jokes on you mate.
Maybe you don't get it, but they aren't skitting on BA or LH.

Here's another one for your joke airline collection.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lxo3iyhDNqM

DTTP - I actually want to travel from Dublin to Southern France in May, so I had a look at the FR website to check out this great deal!
Who could resist!?

What I sadly discovered is that the .01cent fare is not available ex Dublin!
Shucks.

What WAS available was a return fare of 168 euro.

Take heart though - Aer Lingus was more expensive at 175 euro - a whopping 7 euro extra.

However, imagine my surprise when I proceeded to make a booking - the
Ryanair price shot up by 30 euro when I checked in a bag and took their (mandatory) insurance!

The Aer Lingus price for check in bag was 10 euro.
Oh dear - the total prices are suddenly a bit different!

Ryanair - 198 euro
Aer Lingus - 185 euro.

Ryanair is thus a whopping 13 euro more expensive than Aer Lingus, and for a second rate "**** off if you don't like it" service too!!

I'm flying Aer Lingus.

Don't be mugged folks....Ryanair is the ripoff carrier.
Check the rates.

Ive flown many times with FR ex PIK never had a problem in fact will be in DUB 19TH May,i think the words bee in bunnet come into play here somewhere 2.5M PIK PAX aint complaining

Maxalt, get over yourself it was not a dig at anyone nor
did I say the clip was about any Airline,
what I ment to write is lets lift the mood of the thread
It was only a light hearted joke about knowone.
You should be on medication for your blood presure mate.

Your clip was quite funny though:ok: .

maxalt
That would be the (mandatory) insurance that you can remove by clicking on the drop down menu:E

Now, according to a report in the Sunday Times, Ryanair are being accused of using faulty baggage scales at Girona. They have a strict 15kg limit on hold baggage, and some SLF are claiming that their 14kg bags are coming up as 17kg on their scales, and they get charged extra.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle1687502.ece

Ryanair denies it, obviously - that would be fraud and subject to criminal charges. But how much does two bottles of Sangria weigh, eh? I expect to see a bit of scale calibration to go on, regardless. Yes, scales need to be tested regularly, and calibrated if necessary, if money changes hands based on the reading... :=

Ryanair dont own or run/service the baggage scales
so I would guess the agents should be in trouble not the Airline,
or once again is the media picking on Ryanair, would we be saying
the same if the story was about a flag carrier.

Hmm. I don't think it's quite that simple, since it's Ryanair headquarters who are taking in the money, not a 3rd party. It's a charge for carrying the bags on the Ryanair plane, not for ground handling.

IMHO, regardless of who runs the scales, or whether or not this is actually happening, Ryanair need to keep the scales accurate and fair, and be seen doing so. Blaming a 3rd party is not going to cut it when they may be making money off the back of any errors.

I saw no drop down menu. No check box. No explanation about how this insurance charge can be removed. The intent is obviously to dupe the unwary. Just like their fraudulent baggage scales.

By the way, the penalty for fraud in weights and measures is 5000stg and/or 6 months in prison.

O'Leary better pack his overnight bag again.

Since ryr employ any number of illegal methods in dealing with the staff and in other assorted areas of the operation, why would they be any different with the punters?
The micko method is to do whatever he wants, then rely on the lawyers to sort out whatever sanctions come his way. This strategy explains why many Irish law firms have refused to further represent ryr - his refusal to listen to their advice and to constantly break laws has made their position untenable.
But hey, what's a little illegality when his marketing department tells you you're paying only 1c (even when you're obviously not)?

I see the Ryanair bashers are back in full force :ooh: :mad: :ooh:

Or maybe it's the apologists and fellow travellers who are here in force ;)
It appears facts are in no way admissible if they dare to suggest anything other than glorious perfection and ryr and micko.
Using the truth as an argument doesn't make one a "basher", merely a realist!

Europes most profitable airline buys 70 new B737-800
 

http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Busines...g_at_least_4b/

Also I have just spoke with a contact in Ryanair, they told me that
there is big plans for AGP, poss a base ? anyone heard anything.

It's not just at Girona. Last year I flew from Malaga to Prestwick via Stansted with Easyjet and Ryanair. At Malaga my small suitcase weighed 17kg but at Stansted it weighed only 14kg!! My advice to anyone who gets charged for overweight luggage is to get it weighed more than once. I don't know what the law is in Spain but in the UK the scales will have to be checked regularly.

So its just not Ryanair then, maybe the spanish dont have
the tough rules that the uk have.

AGP
 

Yes Malaga will become a base but not untill the new terminal is open. Also Murcia. We all know ryanair want 5/6 spanish bases

I think that Valencia would be an ideal base for FR. What do you think?

Anymore about the Reus base?

SAM-EMA

Yes Sam your right, Valencia will most likely become a base aswell. We should chat sometime about the new routes from EMA. Im leaving TNT to Fly for them as of next month.

Has anyone heard anything about Ryanair ordering (15) B787
It might not be true but the story going around STN is
they placed the order on the 29 of march and listed the
order under LCAL can anyone confirm this eatherway:confused:

Could LCAL stand for Low Cost AirLine ???