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wawkrk 6th Dec 2007 05:07

I use Jet2 about 30 times per year.
Always professional.
Very good time keeping.
I personally cannot fault them.

GBALU53 6th Dec 2007 07:29

Passenger Handling
 
DOGMA

Reading into some of your travelling problems, some relate to ground handling, they might only be contracted to the airline, if you have problems with the ground services you should put the complaint into the airline and they can followow the problems up.
This happens a lot of place poor ground services and it seems the airline which is no part of the handling company hets all the stick.
As for the aircraft being tied the company in it earlier days long ago flew Dart Hearlds and has progressed to not only freight but now big time passenger work the aircraft are not brand new rember but this does keep fares down so what do you want a brnd spanking new B737 to do you trips in and the price a lot higher?
Just be greatfull you have had the experience to fly with them you could always drive your Roll Royce to where you want to go?

mightymouse111 6th Dec 2007 08:05

We probably need to get this thread back to the takeover talk.

This type of rumour has been going round for ages due to both being in the north and both having the same boeing fleets. I believe the management of both companies know each other.

If it was true I believe that the management of jet2 could change round the fortunes of GSM for the better and it would be a useful tie up for the whole of the north.

Mr A Tis 6th Dec 2007 08:20

Ive flown about 8 times with Jet2 ex Manchester. Have always found them very professional in all they do. Some of the aircraft do look very tired & shabby, but that is not unique in the lo co world.
Judging by the GSM longhaul shambles this year, they could learn alot from Jet2, or maybe Je2 are just ideal people to sort it out for them.?

Ivan aromer 6th Dec 2007 08:23

Jet2 to buy GS???
 
The question is what with. Dart group shareprice in the doldrums. Borrowed money far too expensive even if is was available. No, just another rumour or perhaps smoke and mirrors from lowefarfineder house. (Who ever came up with that catchy name?)

luvly jubbly 6th Dec 2007 11:04

Can't see any truth in this one.

LS are supposed to be looking to start some long haul flights, but they have plenty of 75s already.

Our 76s are busy making lots of money!! Good job really, as this will give the new management time to turn GSM around after the problems of S07! ;)


LJ

flybar 6th Dec 2007 20:28

Share Price on way back up again - gained 15p in three weeks

Channex101 8th Dec 2007 19:30

Well we will see, I wouldnt mind joining with GSM, seem a fairly decent bunch of guys so would be cool, also they could help us get into long haul with ETOPS and the 767 of course, and lets not forget the 2x 787s on order!

BLKsheriff 15th Dec 2007 21:45

:confused: The globespan thread has been closed and this one has had nothing on it for weeks....so someone out there must have something noteworthy to add!!!

What does 08 hold for Jet2???...are they going to be pursuing big things, and if so, where? Are they going to consolidate at LBA and (hopefully!) BLK?

I for one think that a buyout of GSM would make sense - similar routes, ethos, northern bases, more modern a/c and a new image for a battered brand (thanks to Watchdog etc etc - and mods I'm not judging, just being pragmatic)

If LS don't need quite so many 73's at Manchester due to EZY imminent announcements then there is plenty of room for 4 based a/c at BLK...the apron repairs should be solid well before S08 kicks off.

Someone out there has the answers!

AEUENG 16th Dec 2007 21:09

Phillip Meeson are you Reading this??
 
Maybe Jet2 should consider a venture down south and look at taking on Flybe at Exeter, There is a proven sun route market which Jet2 could make a good dent on Flybe's profits. The fact that Jet2 have an aircraft based at Exeter for the Royal Mail contract which could be swapped over to a QC aircraft to enable a single aircraft operate both the pax and mail routes given the right scheduling.

If PM reads these pages, have real look at it, there is cracking potential in the Exeter / South west market. :)

Serenity 16th Dec 2007 21:49

I hope i don`t have my facts crossed, but if Jet2 were spawned from Channel Express, why do they only have bases up North?
What happened to Bournemouth and even all the London airports?

4Screwaircrew 17th Dec 2007 10:45

A 733 QC remains based at STN.

barké 17th Dec 2007 18:44

Jet2
 
LS seem to be heading in the right direction, as covered previously in the thread, Holiday Packages, more routes.

They don't seem to be looking to the south for ideas as they have opened up 12 new LBA routes [La Rochelle, Madrid, Cyprus, Mahon, Hamburg, Geneva] just a few there. No sure about NCL, MAN, BKL but im sure theres plans.

LS aren't looking to be heading down hill soon, and with eyes open for new A/C i would guess that apart from some more 737/757's the odd 767 may pop up soon

Good Luck jet2, the only airline keeping LBA worth while :)

barké 17th Dec 2007 18:57

bit more.....
 
still scanning the thread :}

Would j2 get the 757's ETOPS certified for the Trans-atlantic routes? If so LBA could be on the cards for a US service?? If not then im guessing it have to be NCL as MAN has enough US services with Delta, BA and AA there each morning.

richardnei 17th Dec 2007 21:49

Jet2 seem to be taking on a lot of cabin crew for their bfs base at the moment. I know a few who are starting in Jan, but they are advertising on their web site plus holding an assessment open dayover the past weekend.

Seems strange seeing as next Summer theres going to be no BGY/PRG flights plus no real increase in the number of flights. The only new thing at the moment is the 757 for the summer which only requires 5 crew.

Their must be something in the pipeline for the new year. New Routes???

no sponsor 18th Dec 2007 08:18

No. Quite a few resigned and went/are going to Air Fungus. In addition, recruitment for temp contracts for next year to replace the temp contracts for this year.

noiseabatement 18th Dec 2007 21:53

Murcia?
 
Am I too lazy to search, but people tell me that Jet2 will no longer fly to Murcia next year? Is EZY the replacement?

When are Jet2 releasing next summers timetable?

MUFC_fan 18th Dec 2007 22:06

LS will be flying to MJV from all of their bases next summer with 752 operations from MAN, LBA and I think NCL.

tristar500 24th Dec 2007 22:11

Wonder what effect easyjet will have on Jet2 at MAN...

Interesting times ahead :eek:

A300BOY 25th Dec 2007 07:29

A300boy
 
I worried from day one about Jet 2 at Manchester,so much competition on most routes but they have done ok it would seem. I suspect Easy and Ryanair will squeeze them now though,thats possibly why the retraction to Leeds where they have no competion. I want them to survive and prosper so I can join them for the last few years of my carrer.

MUFC_fan 26th Dec 2007 10:16

I have no doubt the airline will survive (unless bought out) but there is very little chance of going bankrupt.

With an excellent business model that they are trying to extend into long haul and charter. In recent times they have been at the forfront of development into the charter sector and it looks as EZY is starting to take note of what they are doing and trying to implement this into their own model.

As you say, they have a fortress at LBA only matched by BA at LHR and EZY at LGW (based on competiton) and I think that this will be a major strong hold for the airline in 2008.

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Anybody heard about the 767s coming? Maybe LS are the airline to but MAN back on the map on the long haul market!;)

MAN Guy 26th Dec 2007 10:51

Jet2 at MAN
 
I think their 737 routes to cities from MAN are numbered and over the coming year I expect to see most or all 737's off to other Jet2 bases for major expansion there. For whatever reason the 737's doing the city runs alongside sunshine stuff hasn't worked out for Jet2 at MAN. To me this does seem strange as since BACON left there were a number of city routes going begging at MAN.

As Easy and Ryanair get their feet in the door at MAN over the next year and picking up more city routes I think Jet2 will end up with just 757's operating to Spain and the Canaries from MAN, and possibly expansion to other sunshine destinations around the med.

Channex101 26th Dec 2007 19:04

Jet2 are not hiding it that they are moving away from city destinations, they are about to drop KRK and BGO from NCL rumour has it.
They want to go down the charter market, and still seat seat only on those flights. Also long haul is on the cards, rumours are stronger than ever that Jet2 will be having the 767 flying around by the winter, first 767 to test the water in NCL where there is zero competition year round. Apparently they have applied to fly to JFK/EWR 3 days a week but have not specified which UK airport the flight will depart from but if the rumour mill is to be trusted then its LBA to JFK on the 757, possibly the new one form TOM that arrives in summer.
Its all going to be interesting and we shall see what happens but I agree, it wont be long before all 737 leave MAN and its a 757 only base with maybe the 767 joining or at least operating into MAN a few times a week.

Channex101 31st Dec 2007 14:34

Does anyone know if G-CELS is oping for Easyjet out of BFS?

14 loop 31st Dec 2007 15:16

Channex for EZY
 
Yes....'LS was operating for EZY on the 28th Dec EZY6747 BFS-GVA.

In November 'LS was subbing for EZY from Luton.

Channex101 31st Dec 2007 18:08

Thought as much as LS hasnt had a Jet2 flight number in ACARS since Dec 3rd, all EZY from BFS

A320fan 3rd Jan 2008 21:25

Love the new Jet2 'weather report' lol Just been on ITV1!

finding_nema 3rd Jan 2008 22:55

Could anybody let me know how Jet2 are finding their self handling stations? I know that they left Servisair at LBA, set up their own operations at MJV and have their own front of house staff at some other bases. Considering that most airlines are out-sourcing their handling, why are Jet2 going the other way and have people found any noticeable improvements, thoughts etc. on all of this?

MUFC_fan 4th Jan 2008 09:03

In MJV during the summer, most days they have five flights including atleast 2 752s and they often come in within an hour of each other (well, they did last summer) and it was probably better for them to have their own operations out there. I wonder what they did with the staff during winter?

Do LS contract their staff out to other airlines in MJV when they have a quite period? Maybe EZY who don't have many flights there?

Cheers

IB4138 4th Jan 2008 09:10

Jet 2 have their own staff and dedicated check-in desks at Malaga as well.

757 Speedbrakes 4th Jan 2008 11:24


I wonder what they did with the staff during winter?

I belive Julie, Catherine, Emma and Jay etc. are all still there for the winter. The local spanish workforce were just taken on for a summer contract.

Apprently the costs of spanish ground handling is stupidly expensive. I don't think Jet2 are allowed to contract their ground handling work out to other UK airlines due to some Spanish law but I could be wrong.

I would like to say that the self handling in Murcia was out of this world. I can't think of a single critisism. The ground crew were all really helpful and cheery, even when stressed dealing with 2 75's and the 73 from EDI all in at the same time.

The avg. 'block-to-block' turnaround time in MJV, for the 757, was 35-40 mins. With a avg pax load of 170-190 per sector thats bloody good. We even beat a Ryanair in and out of MJV (no ATC slots) in a 757. That gave 'em a shock!

Most of our passengers own property around MJV and a friend of mine who is an estate agent used Jet2 7 times last year. That's the sort of pax we should be holding on to and the management should not be affraid to use some 'Bully Boy' tactics on Sleazy and Ryanscare to keep the monopoly on our best routes!!

Channex101 4th Jan 2008 17:40

Here here 757speedbreaks
I love the MJV route, our pax on that are so nice, i really dont wanna see them going to easyjet.
The groundstaff in MJV are excellent, so friendly! our turn arounds are so quick becuase they have no problem getting on and getting their hands dirty cleaning the aircraft with us! by the time you get half way down the cabin poor Julie is usually halfway up the cabin to meet u! this helps loads!
They team down their are a massive assest, the other self handling bases could take a leaf from their book!

trebor 8th Jan 2008 04:42

Jet2 also employs staff for their sales and supervision at bases where they dont yet self handle. I think this is also good for a pax point of view. Julie is also station manager for ALC and often comes up to help out and is a pleasure to work for and with.

tristar500 11th Jan 2008 18:37

Isnt it about time Jet2 and GSM merged, to save their fates?

With easyjet making inroads at MAN and Ryanair at EDI, surely its a good idea to combine and survive the onslought...

GW76 11th Jan 2008 18:43

Isnt it about time Jet2 and GSM merged
No.

tristar500 12th Jan 2008 10:12

OK... I rest my case but watch with interest :ok:

robo283 12th Jan 2008 11:35

Tristar500: How can you rest your case when you haven't made it? Or is it the same case you made for Jet2 on 1st November?

"Expansion will no doubt follow but with caution and when it does, it will also be successful."

I think we should be told :}

tristar500 15th Jan 2008 00:41

ROBO283 :ugh:

01NOV07 - No word of Ryanair expanding at EDI.
DEC07 - Ryanair announcement of expansion at EDI.

With the 'ongoing' issues at GSM and the recent announcement of easyjet aquiring GBAirways, both GSM and Jet2 are about to face extreme competition at their 2 biggest bases ie GSM - EDI - FR/EZY and Jet2 - MAN - EZY.

Yes, Jet2 are a leading force in the lowcost market, but now the competition has stepped up and a merger would not be a bad thing, bringing together 2 low-cost brands with simillar styles and aircraft, taking on established well-financed operations such as EZY and FR.

Lets just say that easyjet and Ryanair are going to have a field day picking up pax from GSM especially and LS.

Simple, get over it and watch what happens... :ok:

NEXT...

Yeadon Dam 15th Jan 2008 07:19

Jet2's main base is LBA, not MAN. Currently about 10 aircraft based here this winter, with around 12 needed for Summer 2008. Naff all competition at LBA.

Mr.Brown 15th Jan 2008 07:58


Jet2's main base is LBA, not MAN. Currently about 10 aircraft based here this winter, with around 12 needed for Summer 2008. Naff all competition at LBA.
Is it true that PM is putting as many aircraft as he can into LBA to stop the airport selling slots to competitors?

Is he trying to circle the wagons at LBA (Don't shoot until you see the whites of their eyes) now that the likes of EZY are moving into MAN?

It will be interesting to see what happens over the next while at MAN.


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