Channex 101, Stan and Teds Cabin Crew are being trained for charter ops...Audi kicks off in 2 weeks time, then Lapland etc.

MNPS training starts soon, so who knows :ok:

First Jet2 flight
 

Flew with Jet2 for the first time last weekend, from Rome to Manchester. Had pre-booked seats, but at check in, were informed that some muppet @ Manchester had not sent the details of pre-booked seats onto Rome, so they were just allocating seats when people checked in. Why do they charge for you to select your seat numbers, if somebody in Manchester cant be arsed to pass the message on to the handling agent in Rome. :*

On a positive note, the senior steward, Ken (Irish), was such a laugh. It was a pleasure to be entertained from take off to landing:D:D

Anyone brought up the New York question recently for LBA to US?

There were hints at one point...

Or is that totally out of the question for now?

It seems to be, US flights are on the cards soon.
I heard to start next year.

Edinburgh Airport Open Day
 

Alba Ground Handling are holding an Open Day at Edinburgh Airport on 8th November 2007, more details at http://www.albagroundhandling.co.uk

Inglebyboro,

Unfortunately you picked just about the worst airport in the world for efficient passenger handling. Manchester probably did send the request but there was no way anyone in Rome was ever going to read it, let alone respond to it.

When the football was on a few months ago, the turnround took several hours because all the handlers simply evaporated. With that kind of attitude, your pre-allocated seats are hardly going to interest anyone.

Despite this, Jet2 and its crews do their very best to serve this difficult route as best they can and the average end-result isn't too bad. You won't find many Kens in EZY or Ryanair.

Jet2 / JFK
 

I think Jet2 would do well with a STN-JFK service,
If you look at the JFK flights from STN, Maxjet, Eos and American they all offer a very differant kind of servise, you have Eos with high price business fares, Maxjet with low cost business fares and American Airways with high business fares along with (y) class fares.
The only thing missing is an Airline that offers low cost fares, step up to the plate Jet2, just think of the passengers that would be willing to stop using the above three airlines and start using Jet2 after all price matters.

You've never flown American have you?

No demonstrable difference between AA and LS really. AA throw an inedible meal at you and a few airmiles. C'est tout...

Well if their was to be any TALT routes coming online next year, their would have been an announcement now or few weeks back.

Why would Jet2 want to try STN-JFK or indeed STN to anywhere in the US? The London area is already well covered to the US.
Surely if they were going to try long haul there would be more sense in trying NCL-JFK as there is no US service from there at all at present.

Any airline trying something new would want to minimise the risk they take and an open playing field like NCL to the US suggests either (a) there's no demand or (b) a good chance of turning a profit.

Why would they open up a passenger base at STN and then take on the world's biggest airline and on the world's busiest TATL route?

Best is LBA/NCL to NYC.

LBA - subject to any runway performance issues........

But I doubt anyone will thank me for taking the thread off on that topic again!!! :ugh:

MUFC Fan
 

You wrote a few weeks ago that a big announcement will be made soon........

I'm still hanging onto the edge of my seat! Will Jet2 still be likely to get one or has that rumor finished??

cant see anything happenin now 757 can u?
next summer is going to be a bit quieter than this year, and with 1 757 down (not sure if we getting a 737 to replace it though)

why one 757 down?

Suspect he's referring specifically to NCL.

Still no MANFAO...
 

Am i right in thinking Jet2 have given up on the route?

I understand they are in full retreat from MAN. 3 a/c already out for next summer back to LBA with a chance that others could follow. Be interesting to see what comes out of the slot conference this weekend......especially interesting to see if the retreat coincides with an EZY onslaught.

Nope, all wrong I'm afraid.

The 757's are CAT 3b but due to LBA being a crap airport. i.e. The runways to short and its bent in the middle , plus its stuck on a hill that sends the Rad Alt do-laly they cannot autoland there. And Leeds being Leeds, when it's not windy, it can get very foggy.

However, the 737's may still use CAT 3a into Leeds.

Just Jet2 applying a bit of common sense!!

Vicarious
 

You well may be right. It does look like LS have pulled the plug on the MAN-FAO route probably to concentrate as sole operator on BLK-FAO.

Should this be the case, I cannot say that I am totally surprised. There are quite a few operators on the MAN-FAO route and I personally feel that their flight timing was less than ideal for a single daily operation to this destination. Whilst I have no idea if the route was a commercial success during the past summer whist operated by a B757, they did seem to suffer quite a number of rather lengthy delays.

757 Speedsbrakes, I do not think you are correct.
The 737's going to Leeds are additional capacity for S08. They are not a replacement of the 4 757's based next summer. The displaced one 757 to BFS this winter is for commercial reasons, not operational.

We all seem to be assuming that EZY will come to MAN in the near future - I hope it'strue for not only our sake but for the airport's!

At around what time do airlines STOP launching new routes for a summer season?

Cheers.

CR7 has it...anyway on another matter
 

The Jet2 733 can handle the 32 Cat III ILS, ie 200m TDZ IRVR. Gone a long way to dispelling all that chatter about LBA and fog......however....

...The 757, can do it [Cat III], it does float [I have footage on DVD of a Britannia 757 doing a practice Cat III which floats] however the fact that the 757 is heavier (on a shortish runway) means that LS won't pass the 757 for Cat III approaches in anger.

If I were Mr Parkin I'd be looking at getting Cat II on 14 (if feasible....I'm told it is) and I'd look at what can be done at the 32 end re pulling the threshold back so the Radar-Alt has a chance.....I'm available as a consultant if necessary:ok:

Looks like its going to be a quiet summer 2008 in MAN, only 5 a/c and 6 destination.

MAN destinations for S08
 

I had it as 9 (so far)..ACE, AGP, ALC, IBZ, MJV, NCE, PSA, PMI & TFS.

Some indications that at least BUD may be added to this list!

I maybe wrong!

Add FAO to that list.

Seems they are pulling alot of the flights from BLK and MAN. BLK down to 2 a/c next summer and a reduction in flights (even though more destinations).

You cannot expect LS to only use 5 a/c from the airport. MAN is one of their major bases and although they are concentrating on LBA at the moment, MAN flights will definately have some of the best loads across their network.

Obviously we can still expect BUD which is a major money maker! (Anybody know why?)

Anyway, if the rumour mill is starting to reveal the truth, we may see four EZY aircraft replacing the LS moving up to LBA!

Anychance to see Manchester/toulouse flights next summer ?

long haul for ncl still on the cards for summer 08 ??

Shark1 I'd be very surprised, seems Jet2 are in full retraction mode at MAN just now.

I believe TLS is dropped.

There's also FCO, VLC, and I'm sure FAO will be there.

MUFC Fan - there are only 5 planned a/c from MAN for S08, 2 737's and 3 757's.

Dart group shares down 20% today as the H1 results were published.

"On an underlying basis, we now expect second half performance to be in line with

last year. This revised expectation is driven principally by a combination of

winter revenues being lower than previously anticipated and an increase in

aircraft maintenance costs.


The Group's underlying profitability for the year will therefore be

significantly reduced from last year, reflecting the investment made in growing

the scheduled airline operations, which have seen passenger growth of over 50%

in the first half of the year. We believe this investment in the growth of the

airline leaves us well placed to improve profitability going forward."

Manchester routes
 

The situation, as described by a man at the top:

The Summer08 routes will be joined by FAO, FCO and BUD. The ones we are dropping are of marginal profitability, mainly because they are difficult to market at the far end of the route. The ones that remain are very strong, profitable and longterm. Some can justify only a B737 size aircraft, so as to maintain the frequency.

Manchester may have been cut back, but what remains is a big plus in Jet2's overall operation.

Globespan for Sale ? Are Jet 2 Buying ?
 

Any news to the rumor that Jet 2 are about to put a bid in for Globespan? Sniffing around the longhaul operation I hear.

Great rumour..... wish I'd thought of it!

Jet2 buying?

You are kidding right! I have only flown on J2 6 times, only once was the experience not a complete comedy of errors/delays/crap service.

Jet2 is a shocking airline that needs to get their own house in order before shopping around.

Dogma, as a Jet2 757 Captain I feel the need to know why we are a shocking airline. Elaborate please, preferably with facts.

Dogma! I am crew for J2 and would like to know why the service is so shocking? and have flown with GSM to compare?
Having worked for 4 airlines I can assure you that Jet2 may not be the worlds best airline (Although we are Europes best short haul airline and that is OFFICIAL!beating off LH, KL and BA!!) but we are by no means the worst.

Dogma, I've flown Jet2 a number of times and while there have been occasional delays, I've found them no worse in that regard than any other airline I've used. No errors and the kind of service I'd expect from the market sector, in fact better than some of their LoCo competitors. While it's not a scientific result or anything, you do realise they have come top of the Observer rankings for short haul airlines for the last couple of years?

I suppose it is too late to say that I meant no offence?

5 of the 6 were delayed more than 1 hour. The funniest was having expected a dep of 0830, the boards said 0930, having looked again at the screens at 0900 it said gate closing! Pax sprinting down corridors to the usual coach for long txfer to remote stand. Upon arriving at aircraft the Captain said they were ready to go at 0800! Ops/Agents had evidently F-ed up the schedules.

Twice I was moved from my online checkin seat (no refund)

On one occasion, following a 3 hour delay, the Captain did not even make a PA and the CC did not venture out of the galleys - Suspect the change of type to a 757 resulted in zero supplies/bars - heads in sand all round.

Generally the aircraft are knackered out and have a horrible interior colour scheme.

J2 in my limited experience are the worst airline I have flown with in Europe. Pity because Channex was a top little outfit.

.... maybe it was the same voters that made GSM the Best Holiday Airline at The Scottish Passenger Agents Association (SPAA) Awards! What a Joke.

By the way, the German low-coster, AirBerlin, beat the likes of Jet2.com and Zoom Airlines to the title of "Best No-Frills Airline". (Readers of The Daily Telegraph and The Sunday Telegraph)

I know which of the four above I'd choose - and it's German.

As for the idea of these pair getting together, it'd be the airline equivalent of a cut 'n' shut job.