As usual, the Cork thread dives into total rubbish, and has become, yet again, an embarrassment for the airport and its users on other forums.
Congratulations on the imagination behind the last conspiracy theory. You guys should work in theatre. |
The word around the airport was that the CAT 2 couldn't and wouldn't be back untill September. Anyone who suggested otherwise was dismissed as ill informed. Then we had the events of Friday last and all that they entailed.
Once again we were told that there was no possibility of CAT 2 before next month and then lo and behold calibrator or no calibrator the CAT 2 suddenly re appeared yesterday evening. |
ryan2000 I'll quote myself because your brain seem's to be incapable of doing that;
Posted 23rd Aug 2012 09:38
23rd Aug 2012 15:48
The IAA originally consulted eurocontrol's safety division on the error's found and that they were working toward a solution - however eurocontrol informed the IAA the system would need to be fully re-calibrated before being allowed back into commercial service. The IAA then received approval from eurocontrol they were allowed to re-introduce the system as the system will be re-calibrated in less then a week and had also been approved by the manufacture of the ILS. Can you now read my quotes above and point out were I was wrong? Or maybe now you don't believe the above either? Ill now quote the IAA after they put the ILS back into service yesterday evening, ''Regulatory approval has been received for a restoration to Category 2 capability''. |
I wasn't directing my comments towards your post Jack but at the view that that it was technically impossible to do anything about restoring CAT 2 until September.
From your latest post, Euro control have agreed to allow it back providing it's calibrated within a week. I'm not sure what's so significant about the period of one week but we won't complain. Sometimes man made decisions can be changed. For instance the DAA has a policy of closing the runway in Dublin for 4 hours after a snow closure in order to allow staff to clear the runway. When this policy was implemented on the mornng of 23rd December 2010, airlines objected and pointed out the chaos it would cause given the day that was in it. The runway was reopened in a much shorter time frame. From the various posts and press releases there appears to have been a greater urgency about getting CAT 2 back after the chaos of last Friday. Given that Cork is prone to low cloud, it is important that any difficulties with CAT 2 are be resolved as quickly as possible |
rom your latest post, Euro control have agreed to allow it back providing it's calibrated within a week. I'm not sure what's so significant about the period of one week but we won't complain. Anyhow that's my last comment on the matter its getting quite annoying and in future I'll think twice before I post information to the forum. To those of you who benefited from the information and contacted me via PM I'll be glad to provide any further details to you. Those who have consistently fired back at the information I gave have been wrong and maybe its too much for you guys to accept that. |
@ Jack, it's a pity that you feel that way I think you are taking too personally, however the main point I can see from the complaining is the urgency or rather the lack of urgency that was evident in repairing the fault. Typical state/semi state lack of action. If ATC/IAA were a private company who was being paid for the work you could sure it would have been up and running, compleatly calibrated within a shorter time frame.
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Jack, I appreciate your detailed information on the situation over the last few weeks. Once again I want to emphasise that none of the points I've made were directed at you.
It's great that Eurocontrol have allowed the CAT2 to be restored. Over the years at Cork Airport I've seen decisions modified and changed once pressure was brought to bear in relation to many issues. This has caused me to be very reluctant to accept information at face value. I'm sure safety was always the over riding consideration but sometimes common sense has a part to play as well. |
Jack, you need to take into account that Pprune can be interesting & informative all right, yes, but it is an ol' laugh as well - just imagine, if Pprune had existed for those of us at Cork Airport during the 1970s and the 1980s when Cork was undoubtedly a far more colourful place than it is now! :oh:
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No CAT 2 in those days. I heard staff used to bet with each other on whether flights would land or not!
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Expect a few headlines re: Cork incident last Friday involving FR9948
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Heard there was something happened, baggage truck nudged a FR, replacement aircraft had to be brought in,,, is that correct?
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yes plane struck by tug I understand that the plane used to take pax to faro was the plane that came in from Malaga. and not a plane flown in to op. the flight
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Heard there was something happened, baggage truck nudged a FR, replacement aircraft had to be brought in,,, is that correct? Available on the Indo now Ryanair flight delay after truck hits plane - National News - Independent.ie yes plane struck by tug I understand that the plane used to take pax to faro was the plane that came in from Malaga. and not a plane flown in to op. the flight |
Cork's airbridge story was resurrected again today when that now infamous broadcaster, Neill Prendeville, of Cork's 96FM, broached the subject and he had even an elderly lady on the air whom quoted from a reply she had received from, presumably the DAA, saying the airlines were not interested in using airbridges and that using them slows down boarding etc. A reply which conveniently puts the issue back in the airlines's corner. Prendeville was giving out again about the wettings passengers are getting when disembarking from aircraft rear steps and the unwelcome climb of a few flights of stairs to the airport immigration and baggage retrieval areas.
Well, there have been plenty of wettings this summer on Cork's ramp so maybe Prendeville has a point? |
It's obvious that Ryanair has no interest in using Airbridges. Aerlingus uses them throughout the network but seems to have an issue about using the one in Cork. Fair enough if they want a speedy turnaround but why do they not apply the same logic at Dublin, Shannon and numerous foreign airports.
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Prendeville was giving out again about the wettings passengers are getting when disembarking from aircraft |
Aer Lingus seem a bit random on it too. I've seen their aircraft with the bridge attached. Yet 2 weeks ago, I arrived back on the late flight from Heathrow (so no turnaround concerns) onto the stand with the airbridge into pissing rain and no airbridge. So, if they have a policy, I don't know what it is.
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I'd imagine it may partly have something to do with staff training and whether staff know how to use it. That said there's nothing consistent about its use if it's being used only on occasion.
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The terminal was designed on the assumption that aircraft parking in front of it would use airbridges . There have been numerous complaints in the local media since but the DAA like Margaret Thatcher are not for turning.
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Cork? Emirates? Nooo
Emirates positive on prospects for Dublin - The Irish Times - Wed, Aug 22, 2012 |
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