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Charlie Roy 7th May 2007 22:09


Will the RE service to Glasgow not be to PIK as they already operate there from Donegal and their previous services to DUB & IOM also operated from PIK.
In fact this RE service from ORK to PIK/GLA is utter speculation and just the wishful thinking of a Corkonian or two, rather than a rumour with any substance :sad:

james170969 8th May 2007 08:51

With all due respect, majik, it does not take at least an hour to get from Prestwick Airport to Glasgow city centre. By rail and road it takes around 40 minutes.

MarkD 8th May 2007 16:22

If RE had bought Q400s instead of more 72s they could use the jetway - I thought the 72 was a nobrainer for the RE refresh until I walked out of a Porter Q400 onto a jetway at Ottawa (CYOW).

ryan2000 8th May 2007 20:14

Cork Glasgow service
 
I'm not engaging in wild speculation. I have it from 2 excellent sources that it is very likely to go ahead from October. Time will tell. Cork Bremen is advertised from 10 euro on the Ryanair website though its not in the search engine.

en2r 8th May 2007 20:35

Cork-Bremen
 

Cork Bremen is advertised from 10 euro on the Ryanair website though its not in the search engine.
Cork and Bremen are simply 2 destinations from Dublin as are Brussels and Malmo, and Madrid and Porto below it. They are not routes.

Charlie Roy 9th May 2007 13:11

Munich is back!
 
Aerlingus to restart Tenerife and Munich.

Munich will be 4x weekly Mon, Wed, Fri, Sat (mornings).

en2r 9th May 2007 14:25

New Routes
 
At last some good news! How did Munich do the last time? I suppose they will see how well it does compared to Berlin and drop the less profitable of the two German routes for the summer.

honest man 9th May 2007 14:30

RE have a deal at Prestwick Donegal is up to 4 a week now and they fly the Celtic fans in from Dublin for big home games

Tom the Tenor 9th May 2007 14:43

The restoration of Munich is good news for Cork Airport. It was sad to have had it dropped. Have never been to Munich but on a few mornings when the Mrs and I were travelling elsewhere and the Munich flight was also going out the loads had always looked pretty okay. Of course, it is all about the mighty yield so it was hard to tell how good the service was doing in dollars (euros) and cents. Munich, a very welcome return.

Will make up for it this time and go there.

Beginning to think that the Bremen is a lulu as they say in the UK bingo halls.

Titan Airways 9th May 2007 18:14

Munich - what aircraft?
 
What aircraft will EI use for the Munich and Tenerife routes?
Pulling three flights per week on the Manchester run is hardly going to be enough to satisfy these two routes.
Could it mean a fifth Cork based aircraft and if so where will they park it at night?
I'd be very interested to see what they do. Let's hope they don't reduce capacity on other routes to facilitate these new ones.

Rallye EI-BFP 9th May 2007 18:16

Cork to Manchester was not operated by a Cork based aircraft- a dublin based one in fact. Routing DUB-MAN-CRK-MAN-DUB

Charlie Roy 9th May 2007 18:18


I suppose they will see how well it does compared to Berlin and drop the less profitable of the two German routes for the summer.
This assertion makes absolutely zero sense! :confused:

en2r 9th May 2007 21:16


Quote:
I suppose they will see how well it does compared to Berlin and drop the less profitable of the two German routes for the summer.
This assertion makes absolutely zero sense!
Berlin has been struggling since it started. They won't have capacity to run the two next summer, without dropping one of the popular sun routes. Therefore I'd say they'll see which German route is more profitable and then drop the less profitable one.


What aircraft will EI use for the Munich and Tenerife routes?
Pulling three flights per week on the Manchester run is hardly going to be enough to satisfy these two routes.
Could it mean a fifth Cork based aircraft and if so where will they park it at night?
I'd be very interested to see what they do. Let's hope they don't reduce capacity on other routes to facilitate these new ones.
They don't need any more aircraft to operate the two routes. Nice, Faro and Alicante are being dropped for the winter and Lanzorete, Tenerife and Munich are replacing them.

ryan2000 9th May 2007 21:47

Aerlingus
 
EI took a decision to lessen their dependence on Sun routes ex Cork for Winter 2007/8. Alicante and Faro were disappointing last winter with the latter being dropped from the schedule after Christmas.


There may well be a further route on sale shortly with Riga and Kracow among those mentioned. Not so sure if Berlin is struggling as many Poles use it to get to Western Poland.

What happens next Summer is anyones guess. EI want the 4 aircraft operation to work before they consider commiting a 5th plane to Cork.

OltonPete 9th May 2007 22:20

Bhx - Ork (ei)
 
Is this route finishing in October?

There seems to be room in the schedule but it is still not on sale.

As I have stated before the load factor on this route (including BMI Baby)
was/is reasonable and although I am sure winter yields are not that good,
are there better routes to fly in the low season especially as it is quite
a quick return sector?

Pete

majik 10th May 2007 04:09

40mins from Glasgow centre to PIK with no traffic no problem. Lets be realistic here, 1 hour.

Tom the Tenor 10th May 2007 08:15

It was a sad day for Cork when the 737-500 size aircraft left the EI fleet. EI ORK to BHX and MAN and many established and potentially new new routes would be so much more viable with 100 to 120 seaters from Cork.

You got to have the critical mass available to fill the 149, 174, 189 seaters and apart from the four or five peak months in the summer that is hard going for any airport even in the UK never mind a relatively smaller city like Cork that on top of everything else has also to compete for business with the likes of Shannon.

Who knows but maybe routes like Faro and Alicante might remain viable through the winter with 100/120 seaters?

MarkD 10th May 2007 20:30

TTT - if EI HAD 149 seaters it would be a good start, no?

Eh Hello? 10th May 2007 23:10

Any changes on how the Dublin route has performed since Ryanair went up to five a day in March - I am hearing lots of stories of many, if not most, Ryanair flights being less than half full (many sub-50 seats) but one or two per day heavily booked. This suggests the backpackers just don't want it in the volumes Ryanair expected - if they are struggling to fill flights for ten euros, do they have a future on it?

The route now has almost 2700 seats per weekday - 1890 from Ryanair and around 800 from Arann. A heck of a lot with improving trains and roads plus the obstacle course that is Dublin Airport and its environs to contend with.

Tom the Tenor 10th May 2007 23:59

Yes, Mark, agreed. easyJet had the right size aeroplane for Cork all right with the 149 seater. If circumstances had just been a tiny bit different we might have had a least one daily easyJet Gatwick flight and a Dortumd flight a few times a week? The 149 seater would have had a chance to come into it's own.

Pity that EI never saw a potential for Cork 149 seaters? It is likely they would have been just the job for SXF, MUC, MAD etc. Perhaps, even, a North Atlantic version of the A319 to JFK and BOS?

Wishful thinking, of course.


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