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Evileyes 5th Jun 2007 23:51

Several recent posts have been moved to the Passengers and SLF forum under the "Thomas Cook Questions" thread.

goldeneye 26th Jun 2007 17:59

After the completion of the merger Thomas Cook Group Plc today announced that Thomas Cook Airlines & MyTravel Airways will be combined and operate under the (as expected) Thomas Cook Airlines brand, with its combined home in Hanger One at Manchester Airport. Commonwealth house (TCX's current home) will close.

AJWTCX 26th Jun 2007 21:15

Does anyone have any ideas what the plans are for the aircraft? Will the MYT ones take the TCX livery and fly under the topjet callsign and name? Are there plans to sell any of the aircraft?

Will the MYT flights eventually all be scheduled as TCX flight numbers ?

mathers_wales_uk 26th Jun 2007 21:35

What will happen with the handling of flights? e.g.

MYT use Servisair at CWL but when TCX have any diversions e.t.c. then Aviance handles them. Will this remain the same or will the handling agents change at the end of their current contract?

How long is left with the MYT handling contracts?

thanks

Tigger4Me 28th Jun 2007 06:08

No idea about callsigns but apparently all aircraft will be in TCX livery.

Irish Grinch 1st Jul 2007 21:10

All a/c will be in TCX livery by Summer 08

mathers_wales_uk 1st Jul 2007 21:50

what about handling agents for the company?

I know that if TCX divert to CWL then Aviance handle them but MYT is currentlly being handled by Servisair

HH6702 2nd Jul 2007 18:51

Anybody have a list of which aircraft will be based at which airports
Are there any bases going to have less

NCL for eg

TCX x2 757 and MYT x1 A320 this summer. does anybody know if this will be the same.

Twin Peaks 2nd Jul 2007 19:28

No change AT ALL this year. AT ALL.

AT ALL


Call signs, Handling agents, uniforms, colour scemes......who cares...probably not even decided yet anyway, as there will be no changes AT ALL this year.
New management structure hasn't been announced yet , so why would anybody have decided about the bloody callsign?:ugh:

Ballymoss 2nd Jul 2007 22:16

No change AT ALL this year. AT ALL
 
Maybe not today or tomorrow but, change is something there most certainly will be:=
As for the callsign, I doubt it will have anything to do with birds of prey:sad:
Rgds
The Moss:ok:

SFCC 3rd Jul 2007 20:30

Right...one small middle management announcement today.
SS(MYT) is the DFO and SM(also MYT) is cabin services manager.
Looking good so far

Irish Grinch 5th Jul 2007 00:03

That's Cabin Services Director.

Also Lucas Mollan (MYT) is Director of Engineering.

Target for completion of Airline merger is March '08. Until then the JAR OPS postholders for each airline will remian in place.

afterdark 3rd Sep 2007 09:17

Tcx & Myt S08
 
Is there any news yet about what aircraft will be staying or going particularly long haul when the two companies become one, also if there are any plans yet in place for what type of aircraft at which base.

SAM-EMA 3rd Sep 2007 09:49

The 752's are staying, and apparently the A321s are to go to TCX, as well as the following A320s: G-VCED, G-BYTH, G-CRPH, G-OMYA and G-GTDL, with the rest apparently going onto SkyService. TCX are to have MYTs 4 A330s. Not sure about the MYTs 763s, but rumours are they to are going to SkyService, but I don't know for definate. I had the info from another forum.

SAM-EMA

TOPFLIGHT 3rd Sep 2007 17:20

SAM-EMA - not sure where you get your info from but some bases will be Airbus eg EMA,BFS etc and 757's at others,eg GLA,NCL. The SSV 767 rumour aint correct either, 1, maybe 2 767's at MAN next summer.

OltonPete 3rd Sep 2007 17:26

BHX
 
TOPFLIGHT

What about BHX?

Currently 2 x TCX 757's and 2 x MYT 320's

Also TCX is Aviance and MyTravel Swissport, I assume one of them is
going to be disappointed?

Pete

caaardiff 3rd Sep 2007 17:38

Its the same situation at CWL. MYT are servisair, TCX (not based but diversions/charters) are Aviance.
I suppose MYT handling in MAN may expand and take on Thomas cooks business.


I had heard the 767's were going. Do they own them or are they leased?

Wodrick 3rd Sep 2007 22:30


What about BHX?

Currently 2 x TCX 757's and 2 x MYT 320's
S08 = 3x 757


Is there any news yet about what aircraft will be staying or going particularly long haul when the two companies become one, also if there are any plans yet in place for what type of aircraft at which base. 5th July 2007 01:03
Yes the S08 basing plan is out

SAM-EMA you need a new source

OltonPete 3rd Sep 2007 22:42

BHX
 
Wodrick

Cheers, not looking good for 2008 for BHX with the expected loss of the TOM 762 to at least to a 757 and now the TCX/MYT currently at 235+235+180+180 down to 235 x 3.

Quite a drop unless it is made up by more rotations as quite a few days there are only 4 sectors for the existing aircraft (except Saturdays) but it is a reducing market and it could be worse.

Pete

SAM-EMA 4th Sep 2007 08:12

I apologise, but it was only what I read on another site.

Anyone have any idea, what is planned for EMA.

Cheers
SAM-EMA

Torque2 4th Sep 2007 08:27

2 x A320's for the summer:)

SAM-EMA 4th Sep 2007 08:35

Downsizing, same as we had a couple of years ago before the 752 came.
Is that the same for winter?

Thanks for that
SAM-EMA

Dragon tracker 4th Sep 2007 08:50

S08 Base plans confirmed
 
Wodrik, you mentioned the S08 base plans are now out.

have you got any insight into how the land lies in the South West?
ie: what will be based at BRS and CWL

Wodrick 4th Sep 2007 09:11

BRS W07 = 1 x A320 S08 = 2 x A320
CWL W07 = nil S08 = 1 x A321

10 DME ARC 4th Sep 2007 10:37

How about NCL??

Bagmanlgw 4th Sep 2007 11:50

Summer 2008 @ Gatwick ?
 
Any idea what will be based at Gatwick and Manchester for Summer 2008 ?

Would expect some major changes ?

Any chance of the A330s/B767s doing more shorthaul ?

Wodrick 4th Sep 2007 13:01

SS08

BFS 2 x A320
BHX 3 x B757
BRS 2 x A320
CWL 1 x A321
EMA 2 x A320
GLA 4 x B757; 1 x A330
LGW 3 x A320; 2 x A321; 3 x A330; 3 x B757
MAN 1 x A320; 1 x A321; 4 x A330; 6 x B757; 1 x B767
NCL 2 x B757
STN 1 x A320

1 x B767 unknown
and to save wear on fingers total 41

ROSSKi MYT 4th Sep 2007 19:18

Does This Mean That All MYT Flights From Glasgow Wil Be On A TCX 757 Next Summer And All FCA Flights Be On A Tom Aircraft Next Summer?

GW76 4th Sep 2007 20:20

If you read the posts, carefully this time, youll see there will be a TCX A330 at GLA, so no, all flight wont be on a 757.

ROSSKi MYT 4th Sep 2007 20:25

Yeah I Saw That But Thats Long Haul I Was Meaning Europe.. Sorry Of It Wasnt Clear

mathers_wales_uk 16th Sep 2007 17:05

MYT/TCX at CWL
 
Rumour i heard at CWL today is that Aviance is to take over missing baggage for MYT flights, and also Servisair are reducing their staffing numbers due to MYT going over to Aviance otherwise they will pull out?

I know that MYT will become TXC under TCX branded a/c but is this due to the fact TCX uses Aviance at CWL and they have majority stake (and perhaps they are not keen of Servisair at CWL)?

Please don't bite my head off as it's only what i heard and i'm just putting my logic into it.

caaardiff 16th Sep 2007 17:28

Tcx/myt @ Cwl
 
Mather, as yet no-one knows what is happening at CWL.
TCX have the majority stake, however TCX are handled by a number of different handling agents throughout the country, including servisair.
MYT self handle in MAN, swissport in BHX, and everywhere else is Servisair, surely streamlining with one company is cheaper.


(and perhaps they are not keen of Servisair at CWL)?
What a load of c:ugh::}p
MYT are more than happy with servisair at CWL, with constant early departures as a results of very effiecient crew, a great working relationship between servisair and the crew, and Aviance ramp.
Servisair CWL are the 2nd best in the country for excess baggage for MYT, coming 2nd to i believe LGW (higher than their main base where they self handle in MAN)

As for servisair laying off staff, these are the temp staff that come and unfortunately go at the end of the season, not uncommon throughout the world?
MYT havent had a winter base for years at CWL so i find it unlikely they will close because of this, and as far as im aware, this is the busiest winter for Thomson flights in years.

Most handling agents throughout the country need to cut costs and save money, and in many airports, one agent handles the baggage for many others (GBS @ MAN & LGW) so this may be why Aviance may take over the baggage handling as it works well for both companies.

copeland1957 3rd Oct 2007 20:59

Can anybody confirm what is happening with the Mytravel/Thomas Cook flights from Glasgow to Sanford next summer.

Over the last few months, Mytravel were selling Thursday & Saturday flights for the whole of the summer season with a Friday flight in May/June/Sept/Oct also going via Belfast.

However, the Thursday flight has been withdrawn from their website. Is this a temporary withdrawal pending a review of flights following the merger or it is a final decision and the flight will definitely be withdrawn for next year?

If they are basing an A330 in Glasgow, it will have a fairly light load on long haul flights next summer. Apart from the Saturday flight, I can only see Puerta Plata and Cancun as scheduled for the full season with the SFB via BFS and a Las Vegas flight operating for part of the season. Will it be used on any European routes or will it also be operating flights from another UK airport also?

merchant sailors 4th Oct 2007 08:24

Orlando ops
 
Airtours website is selling Cardiff to Orlando on Thursdays May - October.

not sure if this might be the gap you are talking about.

AMC330 10th Oct 2007 21:10

MYT websites
 
I've had a similar experience with the MYT/TCX group websites whilst trying to book a honeymoon, flying MAN to CUN.
Flight days and airlines kept changing, websites varying wildly from one day to the next, not very confidence inspiring for how things might pan out next year!
However I made a price led booking through Direct Holidays, ending up on TCX234K next May. We've gone for the premium cabin but I'm confused as to what we'll get from the merged airline. I'm assuming it'll be an A330 but are the whole fleet going to have a uniform cabin format by then or is it going to be a case of getting either MYT or TCX interior depending how lucky we are on the day? I'm lead to believe the MYT set up to be much better?
Any thoughts from you guys on what we'll end up with next year?

A320fan 16th Oct 2007 20:23

Anyone got any updates on the merger? After having a look through the Airtours/Direct Holidays websites some of their flights are TCX ones and other MYT ones, is this meaning that the airlines will not be fully merged in S08?
Thomas Cook are selling holidays for their flights that are listed as Thomas Cook flights on the MyTravel website but not the flights that are listed as MYT ones. e.g. Thomas Cook are selling flights to PMI from MAN on saturdays at 08.45 and 14.45 (both TCX flights) where as MyTravel companies are selling flights at 06.50 and 22.25 (both MYT flights) and a 14.35 flight (TCX)

(If any of that makes sense lol) I really want to try to get on a MYT flight next year but is it just the MyTravel websites that need updating to all flights to be op by TCX!?!?

Regarding MYT's northern europe operations (mytravel as) is this airline going to be branded Thomas Cook aswell as I understand Thomas Cook is unheard of in that area as MyTravel is their main brand. Any ideas?

GW76 16th Oct 2007 20:54

So far Thomas Cook GLA long haul looks like this

Sanford - Friday Saturday
Cancun -Monday
Puerto Plata -Tuesday
Las Vegas - Wednesday (June/July)

HS-125 16th Oct 2007 20:59

Hi All,

Could someone tell me which aircraft operates the TCX LGW-SSH flight's on a Sunday morning?

I'm flying TCX in November. Am I right in saying it's going to be a 757?

goldeneye 16th Oct 2007 21:41

HS-125

TCX flights from LGW to SSH are operated by Boeing 757-200's


A320fan

The MyTravel tour operating system ATOP is getting transfered to Thomas Cooks TOS system hence the reason some of the flight numbers dont match or show TCX & MYT flight numbers. hope that clear some of it up.

Jamesair 16th Oct 2007 22:32

Are there any long-haul flights planned out of NCL in Summer 08?


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