Users of Stansted know that the terminal is at bursting point at peak times and security and immigration is a nightmare.

My question is how many passengers was the terminal designed to handle, at 22.5 million passengers and approaching the milestone figure which should once again put Stansted back in 3rd place of UK busiest Airports what are the plans for the future regarding a 2nd terminal ?

Passengers including myself are now turning away from Stansted as a local convenient Airport and using Southend and even Gatwick.

If Stansted is to attract new Airlines and Longhaul routes surely there must be a plan in the pipeline :ugh:.

Daz

The exact same that happened to MAN, 10-15 years away.

They are getting all these passengers but are MAG benefiting much interms of revenue as most suspect FR got a handly deal as they had little options for growth.

For the normal reasons [queues, lack of seating, border control chaos etc] I have avoided STN for the last couple of years. I have just returned from a round trip through STN, and to be fair the experience was not too bad, but I did travel out mid- morning and return mid-afternoon, so outside the peak periods. Even so, the lack of seating, even mid-morning, was noticeable.
What I found amusing, was that after passing through security, and traipsing through the shopping 'experience' was to see the numerous posters telling me that I could turn round and return to the shops!
I get the feeling that the retailers at the beginning of the 'shopping experience' are feeling a little aggrieved that their potential customers are walking straight past their premises, in search of a seat and a cup of tea.
Of course, in the old 'pre-improvement' days, you could sit down, have a cup of tea, and the shops would be all around you! No need to walk back 50 yards against the traffic flow in order to buy a gigantic Toblerone as is the case now.

There is talk elsewhere on the web of virtual airline running scheduled flight between Stansted and Osijek. It seems the bulk of Sea Air's flights would be based around Osijek, Sarajevo and Mostar.

Yes I know Ryanair operate Stansted-Osijek from late March to late October.

Sea Air seem to use 3 different airlines to operate their flights - I've never heard of the three airlines and they are not even mentioned on Wikipedia.

It all seems like an outfit that is very different to most profitable airlines, but am happy to be persuaded otherwise. Seems too well put together to be a school project. Is anyone able to say anything about them from first hand knowledge ? (I can type stuff into Google as well)

Turkish Airlines CARGO
 

Turkish Airlines Starts cargo operations from Stansted Airport to further swell the Essex hub’s freight fraternity.

Turkish joins international heavyweights that include China Southern Airlines and Qatar Airways as the fifth carrier to be added to the cargo network since MAG (Manchester Airports Group) took over ownership of Stansted in March 2013.

The upsurge in operators has seen the airport’s cargo tonnage rise in the past 12 months by 9.5 per cent to hoist the annual total to over 235,000 tonnes.

The new Istanbul link is Turkish Airlines’ first UK all-cargo flight for six years and will see an Airbus A310 fly a weekly service to Stansted from Istanbul’s Ataturk airport via Amsterdam.

Conan Busby, MAG Cargo Business Development Manager, said: “We're delighted that Turkish Airlines has selected the modern, world class cargo facilities at Stansted from which to operate their first UK freight services for six years.

Ezy and FR on CPH... This is an odd one. I concur with previous poster re devilment on FR's part. Traditionally, FR have selected routes ex LTN not served by ezy or secured routes in a bilateral fashion that ezy didn't get, e.g. Malta. Same is the case at STN, ezy selects routes not traditionally on FR's radar. Like AMS, CPH ( now being withdrawn), Ljubljana, Bilbao, Rekyjavik etc. So in a sense been quite niche in approach. other cases ezy have moved routes to LGW where Ryanair have moved onto like Tallinn..

While the 2 have Co existed on many route pairs like ex BFS and LPL etc. With both collecting reasonable fares and realistic scheduling, now it seems Clear FR are putting down a marker, like a move onto STN domestics. Ezy cannot withdraw in all instances and for LTN, their home turf, they have to hold strong... The FR challenge will only intensify...

IAG
 

I notice in the article below that FR are in talks with IAG at STN?

As far as I am aware there are no IAG airlines st STN are there?

Ryanair names potential international partners

MAG must be very happy with STN looking at 22m+ and MAN on track for 25m+ next year

Ian

No, but who to say what will happen with AL - perhaps a lower cost TA offering from STN freeing up valuable LL slots for BA/IBERIA

oops I think you just started a rumour....:uhoh: or at least you would have done if Buster the Bear had not posted the exact same thing back in August.

very relieved more likely..after paying £1.5Bn for the place they need all those customers and more through their new shopping mall

Looks like my friend in Gothenburg was right about the SAS operation - they seem to be operating just one flight per day in the middle of the day instead of the 12 weekly business return schedule originally planned. To make matters worse apparently the SunAir/BA service out of Cambridge has poached much of the lucrative Pharmceutical traffic leaving them scrapping for mainly leisure passengers against Ryanair - hmm I wonder how that will end...

I see there is a SAS flight to STN tonight. Is that a one off or is the schedule now double daily ?
SK2567 is this evenings flight which the above schedule shows as a morning flight

SAS Flight times vary but are mostly early afternoon, departures from STN are:

MTWT 1315
F 2025
S 1125
S 1435

I agree, I am a wheelchair passenger, In August I was late being taken through delay at Security, then we were rushed through to the gate, my wife who is 75 had to run to keep up, and had an Asthma when we got to the gate, then we were kept waiting on the tarmac to board the plane which subsequently had to have a repair to the Engine. We should have refused to fly and asked for a Doctor but we were going to a wedding.
Also on another occasion The Airport wheelchair tested positive for drugs!!! more delays Four flights in and out of Stansted, each had problems, not even an apology from Ryanair. were given a questionnaire by an IATO rep, who said there had been several breaches of regulations

Back at Stansted this evening...
 

I keep on forgetting what a horrible airport this is.

Rude security staff who left a woman in tears, who also barked orders at me and the rest of the cattle in security, while the joke that is fast track security asked me "What am I supposed to do with that?" When I showed her my pass. I mean, customer service is a thing that many other airports get right.

But then mugs like me forget and see the cheap flight and think "Maybe last time was the exception."

Anyone aware of which handling agent handles the new SAS and Eurowings services?

Swissport are the chosen handler for both SAS and Eurowings...

TOM W16/7
 

Looks as if TOM must be pleased with their long-haul bookings from STN.

Cancun is to operate year-round and now bookable till April 2017
Florida comes back from first week in April 2017 - earlier than 2016 as doesn't start until May
Is also a one-off flight to Barbados in November 2016

Short-haul offering so far looks broadly similar, if not unchanged, from the current W15/6 offering.

TCX Summer 16
 

So looking at the TC booking site it appears Orlando is Daily starting July14th through to September 10th with 2 flights available on Mondays, Fridays and Sundays.


Cancun weekly on Saturdays and Las Vegas on Thursdays.


does suggest they will have two wide bodies based at the airport plus three A321s.


With the TOM 787 mentioned above that's a pretty decent long haul offering. I hope the terminal can cope

Considering I went through STN in peak season and it was dead with most gates not inuse, I'd certainly hope they could cope!

LadyL2013

You say peak season but at what time of day did you travel?

Have you experienced Stansted in the mornings I can assure you it's not a pleasant experience!

According to the "info" concerning their flights on their own website, one will be the Air Tanker A332 and the other will be Hi-Fly

It was a Saturday at about 9.30am, Canberra.

9:30 am is not really peak time for STN. If you had been there 4 hours earlier you would have seen the real crowds prior to the post 6:00 am departures.

New Danish start-up: Airnavia
 

New Danish start-up Airnavia to serve Aalborg using Danish Air Transport, 4x weekly starting 02/05/2016.

Mon, Wed, Fri
Dep. STN 09:30, Arr. AAL 12:00
Dep. AAL 07:00, Arr. STN 07:30

Sun
Dep. STN 17:00, Arr. AAL 19:30
Dep. AAL 14:30, Arr. STN 15:00

I've never come across this airline, hopefully it will last... or even take-off!

Two hours on the ground at Stansted for a small prop. :eek: Not going to be a low cost operation is it.

It's an MD83 isn't it?

Virtual airline using DAT MD83s.

I thought DAT haad retired the MDs and were now using 320s?

New Airlines 2016
 

Article from Twitter

Stansted Airport is to sign a full-service airline in 2016, its owner said, as London's runway capacity squeeze pushes traditional carriers towards the British capital's third busiest hub and the UK home of budget operator Ryanair.

In London, traditional airlines such as British Airways have concentrated on the country's busiest airport Heathrow. But Heathrow is full, and awaiting permission to build a new runway which won't be ready until 2025 at the earliest.

Passenger demand for travel to and from London continues to rise, however, putting Stansted, primarily a base for low-cost and charter airlines, on track to announce a deal with a full-service or legacy carrier, according to its owner Manchester Airports Group (MAG).

MAG chief executive Charlie Cornish said that Stansted, about 40 miles (65 km) northeast of London, was in "deep discussions" with legacy airlines. "We are talking to a whole host of legacy carriers," he said in an interview on Thursday.

"I think as we hit 2016 we'll be able to confirm that we've secured some full-service carriers."

Cornish said he expected long-haul destinations to include Middle East hubs and U.S. cities, adding that legacy carriers were also interested in launching short-haul destinations from Stansted.

I think we can interpret this as "despite our best efforts we have nothing to announce - but we are really praying we will secure something in the next 12 months"

Don't they consider SAS to be a "full service" airline?

I'd cut MAG some slack. They've done an amazing job of getting Stansted's passenger figures growing again since they took over. They're also not ones for giving it all the talk if they don't have a trick up their sleeve. So let's watch and see what 2016 offers.

So when Gatwick is also full then it will be Stansted's turn.

Gatwick is pretty much full for Summer 16 - quite a few short haul airlines/flights out on their ear recently looking for new homes as the spare slots have gone to the new long haul leisure ops.

The problem Stansted has is many are wary of the dominance and predatory nature of Ryanair.

I can see IT flights feeling the pinch first at Gatwick and it would be these flights that would find a home at Stansted. Don't think many full service airlines would want to fly out of what is seen as a low cost airport that is too closely linked with Ryanair.

... but the lack of consideration for these passengers, through the creation of their 'shopping centre', lack of seats, uneven flooring and massive queues for outgoing security and border control incoming is second-to-none.

Legacy airlines would want to ensure that the important business class customers [in terms of revenue] would be prepared to fly out of STN. Given how unpleasant an airport STN has become over the last few years, I cannot see many business pax being prepared to travel up the M11

Who are we referring to here? The likes of Small Planet perhaps? I know LGW had a fair amount of spare stand capacity outside the peaks and troughs of the based aircraft waves, has it really all been taken up?

I do love how any vaguely positive news on this thread sees the usual Luton fan boys en-mass telling anyone who will listen Stansted will never be more than a FR hub.


No doubt the opinion is anybody looking to fly into London should be queuing up to perch on the hill

No it's not just the minnows - some of the bigger fish are scratching their heads and hoping on the January slot return deadline.


Huh! - what's this got to do with Luton?? - MAG put out a sound bite that contains no news at all and there is a general belief (unsubstantiated) amongst airlines that Ryanair are getting all their growth for free - hardly creating an attractive competitive environment (real or percieved) to rush into.

PS. Just looked at the CAA stats and realised Luton is, in fact, growing faster (in % terms) now than Stansted - so you can be excused for feeling paranoid.

Perhaps El Al will be tempted back. I would not be surprised.