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Skipness One Echo 25th Jun 2015 20:16


Just a bit shocked they both chose LGW and didn't look at the bigger picture
They looked at the bigger picture and chose LGW, the market is wayyyyyy bigger.

daz211 25th Jun 2015 21:31

Time will tell like I said good luck to them all at LGW
But I still think a daily A330 and 2 B767 will be over kill
But I hope I'm wrong and price wars begin

FRatSTN 28th Jun 2015 14:04

Anyone know why a BA 777 (callsign BAW9176) has just landed at STN from LGW?

TOWTEAMBASE 28th Jun 2015 21:19

STANSTED - 2
 
What year did transat fly out if STN. I can remember royal !!!

TOWTEAMBASE 29th Jun 2015 08:10

STANSTED - 2
 
The BA 777 went to diamond hangar for engineering

pamann 29th Jun 2015 11:01

Royal Airlines operated on behalf of Travel Pack (who incidentally are still around) they now sell seats on scheduled carriers these days. This must have been in the mid 90's at a guess? They flew to pretty much all the major Canadian cities including Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal. If I remember right however it was a slot issue at LGW and the entire programme was shifted over to STN.

Air Transat were around with their Tristar for sometime previous to this before it was downgraded to a 757 operating to Toronto via Exeter. I think most of the UK regional routes were dropped when they ditched their 757's if anyone can work that one out?

I'm preety sure some of the other Canadian charter carriers used Stansted in the 80's.

Certainly wouldn't go a miss to see Canada back on the departure boards. But if a blood bath emerges at LGW next summer, I personally think I'd see one of the carriers ditching 'London' all together rather than just moving their London arrival point. Shame not to have given it a go mind.

G-ANPK 30th Jun 2015 07:26

Well today`s (30/06/15) Air Transat flight into LGW from YHZ (TSC 282) is being operated by a B737-8 C-GTQB, Nobody mentioned these flights being operated by a 73-8


G-ANPK

AirportPlanner1 30th Jun 2015 09:18

Another Canada connection I had completely forgotten about was Zoom, who operated to Vancouver around 2004 or 05.

Also Skyservice operated a couple of times per week in the late 90s for what I'm sure was more than one season, but I don't think UK pax could book on it.

adfly 30th Jun 2015 09:47

The 738's fly Gatwick-St Johns-Halifax two times per week. In previous years Halifax has been weekly on an A310 and St Johns has not been operated.

j636 30th Jun 2015 11:57

GOT increases from 2 to 3 daily from 15 September as FR announce base at GOT, surly SK time will be very limited at STN?

wethersfield 30th Jun 2015 12:07

SK STN/GOT
 
SK should do the right thing now and switch the service to SEN who will welcome with open arms

Itchin McCrevis 30th Jun 2015 12:53


SK should do the right thing now and switch the service to SEN who will welcome with open arms
Luton would be a better choice in this instance as closer to the original Heathrow market and while still reasonably convenient for the pharmaceutical boys from Cambridge.

01475 10th Jul 2015 04:55

Is STN close to capacity at peak time in terms of aircraft movements?

Despite the changes, it seems to be very much above capacity in terms of space in the terminal.

STN Ramp Rat 10th Jul 2015 07:33

Overcrowded
 
01475


I would totally agree, I took a day trip out yesterday. I arrived at the airport at 05:15, security was reasonably OK but the departure lounge was packed and flights were being gated earlier that planned to reduce the overcrowding. The issue was clear, one screen of the departures board covered about 30 minutes of flights but the last board covered the 0900-1130 time period. Stansted is by its nature very peaky. I am sure it will be better when the departure lounge is fully open.


The real issues was immigration in the evening, we touched down at 23:35 I made it to the back of the immigration queue at midnight and made it through passport control at 00:40. there were at least eight unmanned passport desks on the EU lanes but at least all the automated gates were working.

terrain safe 10th Jul 2015 10:40

01475

In terms of aircraft movements: no there is still capacity at peak times but it does depend on the direction after departure that everyone flies. If they all go the same way it is lower capacity and inbounds also lose capacity.

Plenty of room on the runway at the moment but next year may be different.


The terminal may be a different story of course!

FRatSTN 10th Jul 2015 16:05

I've noticed slight improvements to the Terminal over the last few weeks or so in terms of overcrowding. Yes it still gets very busy but once all the shopping area is completed at the end of the year it will certainly open up a lot more space if nothing else.


Immigration on the other hand is a shambles but hopefully something will come of this: Government to hold talks with Stansted Airport bosses over passport control problems | Herts & Essex Observer

rog747 11th Jul 2015 17:13

1970's
 
there was a small direct sell? tour operator that operated from STN and SEN iirc called Tom 'something' holidays...tom Crawford rings a bell but i'm not sure

he chartered caravelles from aviaco and TAE/Hispania i think and he did majorca and spain etc.

anyone remember ?

there was travel club upminster and Burtsin travel (he started princess air with a 146QC) who all operated from STN and SEN with their own charters

daz211 11th Jul 2015 19:17

Anyone know what EK3001 is doing at STN
Just seen it land very strange visitor but nice to see :D

Shed-on-a-Pole 11th Jul 2015 19:58

Could it be a Premiership football team heading out on a pre-season tour? Several of these are on the move this week.

wallp 12th Jul 2015 20:06

Did it have Arsenal players emblazoned on the fuselage? In which case it was taking the Arsenal team to Singapore

STN Ramp Rat 12th Jul 2015 20:40

interesting article
 
UK-based longhaul start-up Firnas Airways to use B767s - ch-aviation.com


it is suggesting its a Stansted based carrier !

Shed-on-a-Pole 13th Jul 2015 00:04

Hmmm ... Firnas Airways publicity picture shows an A330!

Double Hydco 13th Jul 2015 07:36


Did it have Arsenal players emblazoned on the fuselage? In which case it was taking the Arsenal team to Singapore
Yes it did.....

j636 13th Jul 2015 15:21

June traffic up 11% to 2,059,164 (1,855,632)

http://mag-umbraco-media-live.s3.ama...-june-2015.pdf

daz211 17th Jul 2015 09:19

Today saw the first of TCX longhaul program from STN
STN to MCO looks like they are using Hifly A332.

FRatSTN 19th Jul 2015 10:30

Does anybody know how many aircraft EZY based in STN last winter? If I remember correctly it went down to 6 but this coming winter it stays at 7 following on from the summer.

There's definitely an increase in flights compared to last winter, mainly from increased frequencies on BFS, EDI and GLA, but I wasn't aware of an additional aircraft.

If this is the case, I wonder if this might translate into 8 aircraft possibly for Summer 2016 or if it will just continue to stick at 7?

Double Hydco 19th Jul 2015 21:46

It's been 7 based aeroplanes since the last base downsize, for both the winter and summer programmes.

DH

FRatSTN 21st Jul 2015 20:09

TOM and TCX changes for S16
 
Looks as if TOM will be adding a second weekly flight to FAO departing on Thursdays in 2016. The Thursday flight to PMI is now showing as not being operated by TOM so I assume some re-jigging of the schedule will be neccessary.

Also, TCX seem to have added LCA but strangely only 1 flight on sale departing on 29th May and returning 5th June 2016.

daz211 21st Jul 2015 21:55

TCX summer 16
 
TCX will increase Stansted - Orlando to 4 weekly :ok:

LTNman 22nd Jul 2015 05:51

I was talking to a mate of mine in the pub last night who was having a major moan about Stansted.

He went to pick up his daughter at 1am from the express set down and pick up lanes making sure he didn't enter it before she was outside and waiting.

He said due to the vast numbers of passengers and the length of the lane it took several minutes before they could find each other. He then had to queue to get out. When he paid his £2.50 the barrier demanded another £2.50 as he was now one minute over 10 minutes. It took another minute to find the extra £2.50 by which time the machine demanded another £2.50 as he had now been there 12 minutes. Yes, Stansted charges £2.50 per minute after the first 10 minutes. At this point he rang the buzzer as he had run out of money but it was engaged.

He was eventually let out without paying any more money but it left a bad taste in his money and wallet.

lederhosen 22nd Jul 2015 06:22

The queue to get through passport control on a recent visit was the worst I have ever experienced. Ryanair double digit increases in passengers seemed to have swamped immigration at Stansted.

01475 23rd Jul 2015 12:39

It seems to be a bit of a disaster zone. It's awful leaving in the morning (there's nowhere to stand let alone sit) and awful arriving at night (it takes ages to get to the back of the interminable passport control queue).

It's my closest airport, but the regularity with which I'm missing the last train while standing in the passport queue is making me think other airports might not be worse options.

lederhosen 23rd Jul 2015 14:35

I have since booked twice via Gatwick, although on my way to somewhere north of Stansted, simply to miss the miserable experience.

daz211 23rd Jul 2015 20:50

I also have chosen to fly from another airport for the exact same reason I normally fly Ryanair STN to ACE but the flight departs STN at 0715 no way am I standing in that Security line for an hour something has to be done and soon because if I'm choosing to fly from an alternative Airport take it from me there will be lots of others doing the same.
I'm lucky because STN and SEN are the same distance from my house and Easyjet have just announced SEN to ACE so not only has STN lost my custom so has Ryanair.

STN NEEDS A SECOND TERMINAL AND FAST !!!

wowzz 24th Jul 2015 09:30

I'd rather just have more people on security and especially at Border Control [or whatever they call it these days] than a second terminal.
As other posters have said, I now prefer to drive an additional 80 miles and fly from Gatwick, rather than endure Stansted's awful queues.
Every time I read on this board of an extra flight from STN, it gives me even more reason to avoid the place.

Flightmech 24th Jul 2015 11:31

I'm based at STN and now prefer to take the drive to LHR for business travel. Ridiculous going out and ridiculous coming back.

FRatSTN 26th Jul 2015 10:24

New route
 
The new Eurowings to operate daily STN-VIE.

Various sources in German, this is one of them:
Lufthansa-Tochter - Eurowings baut Flugangebot aus Wien deutlich aus > Kleine Zeitung

LadyL2013 26th Jul 2015 13:17

The problem with STN is that it's a boring airport.

I haven't had to spend that long going through security since the 90's and when you get to the otherside there's nothing to amuse you.

Gatwick is quite a 'fun' airport in that there's always plenty to keep you occupied until boarding. STN is just cold and unfriendly. It is missing a certain something.

We went through STN last year because it was £100 cheaper than LGW. We'll happily fork out that £100 to have a better airport experience at LGW in future.

whitelighter 26th Jul 2015 17:00

What would you like to amuse you?

There are now plenty of shops (too many for some it seams) and varied eateries.
I went through gate ice last month and it seemed the same - shops and restaurants

pamann 26th Jul 2015 17:07

Agree that facilities wise it is just like Gatwick these days once you get through security. Getting through security is the big issue. Followed by getting back through Border Control. Otherwise Stansted would be a very pleasant airport. Maybe what it does need is a second terminal to relieve the pressure in these areas?


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