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BAladdy 30th Dec 2008 19:19

4 X J41's up for Sale/Lease
 
Just noticed on a aircraft sale/leasing site that 4 J41's which are currently in T3's fleet are now up for sale/lease.

J41 For Sale or Lease on SpeedNews

The aircraft are:

MSN015 - G-MAJW
MSN098 - G-MAJX
MSN099 - G-MAJY
MSN100 - G-MAJZ

The aircraft in question have been with T3 less than two years. Was the original lease meant to be just for 2 years ??

Does anyone know the reason for these aircraft leaving??. Especially since G-MAJX/Y and Z are the newest J41's in T3's fleet. .

Wellington Bomber 31st Dec 2008 09:01

BA Laddy

These a/c were actually bought out of the desert for nect to nothing and done up not leased as per the ex BA ones

Mister Geezer 31st Dec 2008 21:02

A bit dramatic I think.....


tatty, tired and revolting. Smelly, drab, uncomfortable and noisy.

j41cac 2nd Jan 2009 22:38

They're not that bad. 41's are a bit old now but suit RL's model. Although i cant deny that they are lookin a bit tired inside a few of them.

I wonder whats next for this outfit as they never seem to grow, maybe
thats why they're still around.


:)

Odi 4th Jan 2009 21:04

PD to PM (and back!)
 
Now that you've been doing it for a few weeks, how are you finding the Scatsta run? Any questions, queries, observations on the service you receive from us on Sumburgh Radar?

Cloud Chaser 7th Jan 2009 15:10

See PPJN now mentions the possibility of a few E145's to free up the Saabs.
Would anyone in the know, care to comment how likely this is?

planenut321 7th Jan 2009 16:09

Didn't EZE used to have ERJ145's?

airhumberside 7th Jan 2009 17:43

Yes they did a few years ago

Richard Taylor 7th Jan 2009 19:46

If memory serves, they have operated both E135 & E145, before deciding the Saab 2000 fitted their Business Model better. So an interesting reversal of viewpoint if they are going back to the Junglie.

Guess they must think they can pick up Embraers relatively cheaply & make them work.

They have been using a SE-reg 145 on NWI-ABZ of late.

Cpt. Chaos 8th Jan 2009 10:33

The E145 is on wet lease from City Airline, as the Eastern SB20 are all being utilised for the Scatsta run and other commitments, along with training of crew.
It is not a reversal in company model it is just that for the time being whilst IAC are covering the cost for Eastern to do the Scatsta run, after the sad demise of Flightline, until their official contract starts, Eastern have farmed out some of their work.
RL is not daft and it is probably saving him some money.

virginblue 8th Jan 2009 14:28


o an interesting reversal of viewpoint if they are going back to the Junglie.
Has probably more to do with the lack of available Saab 2000 and/or trained crew than anything else. Remember that only 60 Saab 2000 were delivered - of which 15 have been converted into military/corporate aircraft, 2 have been written-off and of which Eastern already has already 8 on strength. That means that any additional aircraft have to be sourced from a pool of just 35 or so aicraft in operation with other airlines.

Cloud Chaser 8th Jan 2009 15:22

So any additional 145's are likely to be wet leased as well then??

HUYHedgeHog 11th Jan 2009 19:05

Eastern are still waiting for 1 of the new Saab's, hence the E145 which is leased for the Norwich Aberdeen routes. G-CFLU has arrived and in service I believe, not heard of G-FLUV Wellington is that the reg of the 2nd saab? Nothing showing on G-INFO...

Has anybody got any news on LCY, there isn't any mention of it on their website?

Richard Taylor 12th Jan 2009 06:18

Good luck to T3 with their inaugural ABZOSL service, with S20, starting today.

With the oil industry also in contraction, will be interesting to see if they can make the route work. They are confident that there will still be sufficient demand.

Route was last served by City Star.

virginblue 12th Jan 2009 09:47

Pardon my ignorance as I am asking this as a total outsider:

I was wondering to what extent Oslo is an oil-related destination like ABZ? The only point I can see is that it is sort of an admin centre of the Norwegian oil industry - but is there really that much traffic to/from ABZ of ties and suits? ABZ-SVG etc. is probably "drilling"-related traffic on both ends and thus a different story, so I see the where the business comes from. I have much more diffiiculties understanding the rationale of a dedicated nonstop ABZ-OSL service.

garrygaz 12th Jan 2009 13:39

Abz-osl
 
It was kind of working for City Star, until they p1ssed off their regular passengers by often cancelling the flight in favour of "more lucrative" charters.

GG

pug 12th Jan 2009 13:40

The route is being advertised from LBA, HUY, DTV and others as one stop. They may be able to get enough traffic from that to support it. Thats probably why they've issued press releases from these airports also.

j41cac 14th Jan 2009 21:50

Anyone tried to book MME to Oslo rtn? Just under 1K for a rtn flight for one pax, i'm not joking either. Thats 2 months in advance too.

What poeple in their right mind would pay those fares?

I like Eastern but must say they are taking the biscuit with these sort of fares :eek:

kingdee 15th Jan 2009 00:00

just
 
booked rtn flts LBA-OSL-LBA VIA ABZ £320.20 P RETURN IN FEB not bad compared to others .

virginblue 17th Jan 2009 11:32

Wondering if some vultures in Eastern livery are already circling above Vilnius in order to inspect the two flyLAL Saab 2000s that now will come on the market.


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