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UKpaxman 11th Nov 2008 08:34

Hmm, my understanding was that Flightline didn't lose it to the Saab 2000, Flightline lost the contract full stop.

Richard, the whining never went away, it seems to reappear every time this contract comes up for grabs:ooh:

Wheeliebin 11th Nov 2008 09:05

UKpaxman

Correct 100% Flightline lost contract, only themselves to blame. I didn't se my post as a whine. Just agreeing with your comments on the history of the matter and passing on the info that the traveling oil workers have been given.

Richard Taylor 11th Nov 2008 09:07

Apologies for thread drift, but does anyone know what Flightline did so wrong to have the contract taken away?

Wheeliebin 11th Nov 2008 09:52

RT

Probably not the place to expose the reasons. Needless to say that Flightline are aware of them and hopefully, down at the mouth of the Thames, they are being addressed. Also worth observing is that if they were of such a serious nature, then they would not be continuing to operate until Feb 7.

What I will say is the IAC indicated that they were happy with the Aberdeen part of the operation. The 146 giving the "best service they've ever had". That being the case, it is a bit hard to understand - I know !

WB

Richard Taylor 11th Nov 2008 10:18

Ta WB. I always thought operationally at ABZ anyway FLT had done a reliable job.

However I am sure Eastern will do likewise, when they start the interim contract.

When the two 2000s arrive to augment that fleet, taking into account the LCYAMS route they are to commence, will they have enough of the type to fulfill their commitments, bearing in mind three of them will being engaged on up to four round trips M-F for the IAC? Also taking into account ABZOSL which they recently announced as well.

Wheeliebin 11th Nov 2008 11:16

RT

I wish them the very best. SCS is a challenging airfield, but I'm sure that with the right training they will do well.

It's a small world aviation. Who knows, in the current economic climate there could be the odd Flightline crew heading to "090" up the W5D. Not sure about those hats and yellow ties !!! :)

WB

UKpaxman 11th Nov 2008 11:18

WB - whining comment wasn't aimed at you - there's a number of posters who just seem to think it's always the wrong decision before the operation has even started. There was the same comments before the 146's arrived (old unreliable aircraft, not suited for SCS, too expensive for route, blah, blah...)

Wheeliebin 11th Nov 2008 11:31

No problem Mr Paxman
Cheers WB

niknak 11th Nov 2008 11:36

Good news for Eastern.

I can't see why they'd need to move anything to ABZ except expand their handling facilities there. The Head Office & Operations Dept are ideally situated at HUY, it's cheap to keep them and the staff there.

Additionally, good news for pilots and crews who are looking for work, even if it's not directly onto the SAAB I understand T3 are looking for JS41 staff.

Drink Up Thee Cider 11th Nov 2008 12:03

Where will the aircraft come from? Will this mean cuts to the Eastern scheduled service in order to actually have enough aircraft to fly SCS?

garrygaz 11th Nov 2008 16:22

I don't think it as simple as Eastern expanding their existing handling agents staff. Flightline's current staff will be entitled to TUPE and I am sure their existing terms and conditions are pretty good, almost certainly better than Regional Handling, Eastern will possibly need to directly employ Flightline Staff, at least in the short term.

john2408 11th Nov 2008 20:37

2 Saab 2000's due to arrive in December,either to HUY or ABD.

Liobian 12th Nov 2008 20:26

So, with a/c expected, anyone know when Eastern are due to commence this oil run ?

BAAdboy 12th Nov 2008 21:25

Looks like last flights by FLT 146s on Friday 6th Feb 2009 with EZE Saabs commencing from Monday 9th Feb 2009.

mancairboy 17th Nov 2008 18:28

manchester
 
friend has told me eastern to withdraw flights from manchester can
anyone confirm this have tried to book online for december
but response is no flight available

egnxema 17th Nov 2008 18:48

Any news if/when EZE are going to announce the LCY AMS flights for sale?

airhumberside 17th Nov 2008 19:51


friend has told me eastern to withdraw flights from manchester can
anyone confirm this have tried to book online for december
but response is no flight available
It wasnt that long ago Eastern added a 4th daily to STN, and awarded a new handling contract at MAN

EDIT - Eastern website shows last flight 28th of this month

Wellington Bomber 18th Nov 2008 19:01

When Eastern originally operated Manchester - Stansted it was a very profitable route and had lots of supporters.

Unfortunately, when Air Berlin operated this route and offered fares at next to nothing the passenger thought that Eastern were taking the mick with prices. Obviously Air Berlin could not sustain the low fares as they soon pulled of the route.

Eastern then restarted the service but only got the really loyal supporters of the original service at the appropriate fares to justify a regular service 3 to 4 times a day. Sadly not enough people returned and therefore the service has ended. Well done LCC's

brown1950 19th Nov 2008 20:20

Eastern could be a bit premature with stopping the service Manchester-Stansted with AirAsia X due to commence service to Kuala Lumpur in March09 ?

Skipness One Echo 20th Nov 2008 10:16

What's the point of connecting onto a flight to Manchester that will cost as much as your flight from Asia????? That's nuts!


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